[Amps] Clippertion L 572B tubes: Solder Water-Wash Flux

Wed Jul 11 09:18:11 EDT 2007

I am referring to modern, water-wash flux like this from http://www.gluguru.com/electronics_materials.htm:

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Multicore® Water Wash Fluxes-IPA Based
Hydro-X/20™ High Activity Flux A high activity water washable flux designed for the soldering of the most difficult electronic assemblies. Unique activator package enables a wider process window and the soldering of all common electronic surfaces with ease.Residues are readily and completely removed by water wash after soldering. Suitable for lead-free wave soldering.
% Solids: 20 % Halides: 1.0 Acid Value: 24

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If you're not using this, you are obviously from the dark ages and you probably voted for Truman while in your 40's.

No one solders with the crap inside solder anymore unless your living in a cave.  It is like the lap dance with the 20-year-old: you'll never go back to your wife after soldering with this stuff.

Take my word for it people, I do development electronics all day.  That is the great thing about internet forums: learning to do things the easy way from people who do it for a living.

73,

Steve, K0SF

----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Bonner" <rbonner at qro.com>
To: "STEVEN & NANCY FRAASCH" <sjfraasch at embarqmail.com>, "John." <johne at tds.net>
Cc: amps at contesting.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 6:58:56 PM (GMT-0600) America/Chicago
Subject: RE: [Amps] Clippertion L 572B tubes

Of course he is referring to silver solder and Rosin flux.  Acid flux usually used in plumbing corrodes electrical components. 

BOB DD

-----Original Message-----
From: amps-bounces at contesting.com [mailto:amps-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of STEVEN & NANCY FRAASCH
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 12:38 PM
To: John.
Cc: amps at contesting.com
Subject: Re: [Amps] Clippertion L 572B tubes

Don't go too crazy replacing tubes.  More often that not, a tube is still quite good after years of use.  Assuming that the filaments are wired in parallel, plug one tube into the amp at a time, key the amp and monitor quiescent plate current.  The resting current should be within 20% of the group mean.  If you have an assortment of tubes, I would match them for resting current (again, checking them one at a time assuming filaments are parallel connected).  If you have an extreme outlier that has low resting current, I would suspect that it is weak.  Use tubes with similar gain together.  The RF transistor industry used to do this by marking BJTs with an ink to indicate Beta grouping.

I would pull a leakage current check on HV caps.  You can do that by putting a 10K ohm resistor in series with a single silicon diode (1N400x) and hook up to 110VAC (one cap at a time).  The cap should charge, then not take more than a few microamps thereafter.  Measure the voltage drop accross the resistor; it should be nil.  I find that many caps in old amplifiers leak and require replacement.

Replace any and all heat damaged components such as resistors and caps.  Check that variable cap plates are parallel.  Replace noisy fans.  Clean old grease and re-lube.

Check the bandswitch. If there are broken or burnt contacts, replace it.  If the position stays are worn, replace it too.  There is nothing more annoying than a flaky bandswitch.  You can buy silver solder and liquid flux from various vendors on line.

Check to make sure that all solder connections are intact.  I find many corroded and defective joints in amplifiers.  Use liquid flux which will help clean crud and allow using less heat than without flux.

That's about it.  You have a simple amplifier so that this should be pretty easy.  Good luck,

73,

Steve, K0SF

----- Original Message -----
From: "John." <johne at tds.net>
To: amps at contesting.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 10:40:53 AM (GMT-0600) America/Chicago
Subject: [Amps] Clippertion L 572B tubes

I am in the process of restoring a Clippertion L amp.  Any thing that I 
should look at that has been a problem ?

Looking for some good 572B's pulls or something like that. Need 4.

If one could be found then I could start testing the amp.

Thanks de John KØCQW
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