[Amps] ferrite in RF chokes for PAs

John Lyles jtml at losalamos.com
Thu Mar 6 10:29:02 EST 2008


Plate RF choke has an appreciable DC current component in it. This lowers the effective mu of the ferrite, and makes it less effective as a choke. As a matter of fact, the value of inductance will fluctuate with peak current fluctuations. One could design for this, but besides being a 'moving target' in the design, the flux density in the ferrite may drive it into saturation. Remember that the choke will have RF voltage across it, and DC current going through it. With normal chokes, the 'cold' value of inductance (and inductive reactance or RF impedance near self resonance) is measured easily and is predictably the same as when the amplifier is energized with HV and RF. 

Ferrite-loaded inductors still do have parasitic resonances due to the stray capacitance from wire turns. They tend to shift down in frequency so they still have to be taken care of that they are not excited at the normal operating frequencies. There is no free lunch here. Less turns of wire, for sure, but also the resonances are lower due to the higher permeability in the coil's medium. 
  
Second reason is that spaced turns on a coil form are easy to insulate. 

The good aspect of a filament choke is that two wires are bifilar wound, so that the magnetic field of one wire is cancelled by the opposite magnetic field in the other wire (since the current is always flowing in opposite direction through the filament circuit). The ferrite sees only the RF voltage across it, and not the DC magnetic field that would otherwise degrade the inductance value. A torioid could be used also, just be careful that the hot end and the cold end of the choke are not adjacent on the toroid. Also, the stray capacity would be different, causing resonances that need to be figured, as before. Most people just use a nice linear ferrite rod for this, as it makes the layout simple, hot end near the tube socket, cold end near the AC line side. Many years ago, before ferrite (BF), the cathode RF choke would have been just an air wound inductance for each filament lead. Sometimes this is done in large industrial and commercial systems, where ferrite is impractical or too
expensive, and the frequency range of operation is small. 
73
John
K5PRO


> Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2008 07:56:34 +0100
> From: Angel Vilaseca <avilaseca at bluewin.ch>
> Subject: Re: [Amps] Ferrite (was: how to wind an HF broadband 10:1
> 	transformer)
> To: Manfred Mornhinweg <mmornhin at gmx.net>
> Cc: amps at contesting.com
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> Another situation where excessive wire length can lead to unwanted 
> resonance effects (overheating) is the plate choke.
> If the plate choke was wound on a ferrite rod, or toroid, much less wire 
> length would be needed.
> 
> Why is this never seen in classical designs?
> 
> On the other hand, a cathode choke wound on a ferrite rod IS a 
> classical, but never a plate choke. Why?
> 
> And why is a ferrite rod always used for the cathode choke, but never a 
> toroid?
> 
> 73
> 
> Angel Vilaseca HB9SLV



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