[Amps] High SWR,

KB0NLY kb0nly at mchsi.com
Thu Apr 23 06:53:21 PDT 2009


>From another person that replied off list..

""Whether I leave or not is immaterial and it certainly wont be at the
request of someone like Scott.  Particularly since my post was rather
generic and not singling out anyone.  Guilty conscience maybe?

What is important is that the forum not become taken over by the likes
of a certain few who seem to have a high degree of emotional instability
to add to their lack of knowledge. That's a bad combination.""

Seems to me he already did go after me personally.  Oh well, I took care of 
it.

73,

Scott


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Alek Petkovic" <vk6apk at bigpond.com>
To: <amps at contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 8:48 AM
Subject: Re: [Amps] High SWR,


> Nobody is attacking you Scott.
>
> "Kurt N Sturba" has written on the the topic of this thread many
> times over in World Radio Magazine. Seek it out. It is good reading.
> Simple, to the point, easy to understand and mostly inoffensive.
> Simple enough for this Aussie mug to understand anyway. Hi hi.
>
> 73, Alek
> VK6APK
>
> At 09:24 PM 23/04/2009, KB0NLY wrote:
>>By now Carl is probably making posts that attack me in person, most likely
>>attacking my intelligence or some other mental ability, that's where he
>>always takes it.  So have fun reading his replies as I have added him to 
>>my
>>blocked list here and put him into my custom spam blocker so he gets some
>>nice auto replies...
>>
>>73,
>>
>>Scott
>>
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Pete Smith" <n4zr at contesting.com>
>>To: "KB0NLY" <kb0nly at mchsi.com>; <amps at contesting.com>
>>Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 5:34 AM
>>Subject: Re: [Amps] High SWR,
>>
>>
>> > Carl occasionally goes too far, but he also has forgotten more about
>> > amps (from a practical and repair perspective, especially) than most
>> > of us will ever learn.  He's a valuable resource, and it would be a
>> > shame to have him banned.  Use your delete key or filter his messages.
>> >
>> > Compared to the flame wars of old, this is pretty tame stuff.
>> >
>> > 73, Pete N4ZR
>> >
>> > At 10:47 PM 4/22/2009, KB0NLY wrote:
>> >>Why doesn't someone finally kick Carl off here for god's sake?  I can't
>> >>remember the last time he contributing something on topic or worth
>> >>reading.
>> >>I was on a different computer today when his comments came through, 
>> >>forgot
>> >>to block him on here, now he is in the block list on both computers.
>> >>
>> >>73,
>> >>
>> >>Scott
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>----- Original Message -----
>> >>From: "Gary Schafer" <garyschafer at comcast.net>
>> >>To: "'Carl'" <km1h at jeremy.mv.com>; <ve3zi at rac.ca>; "'Amps'"
>> >><amps at contesting.com>
>> >>Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 9:28 PM
>> >>Subject: Re: [Amps] High SWR,
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > Well, spouting off can be a good thing. That's what the reflector is
>> >> > for.
>> >> > So
>> >> > people can learn from one another. Plus it provides some 
>> >> > entertainment
>> >> > for
>> >> > us old farts.
>> >> >
>> >> > 73
>> >> > Gary  K4FMX
>> >> >
>> >> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> >> From: amps-bounces at contesting.com 
>> >> >> [mailto:amps-bounces at contesting.com]
>> >> >> On
>> >> >> Behalf Of Carl
>> >> >> Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 8:35 PM
>> >> >> To: ve3zi at rac.ca; Amps
>> >> >> Subject: Re: [Amps] High SWR,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Roger, youre correct; its been said so many times you would think 
>> >> >> it
>> >> >> would sink in.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> But with noobs from the CB/FM ranks old myths die hard. They cant 
>> >> >> be
>> >> >> bothered buying a Handbook or Antenna Manual and just spout off on
>> >> >> here
>> >> >> and elsewhere with zero idea of what they are talking about.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Carl
>> >> >> KM1H
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> >> From: "Roger Parsons" <ve3zi at yahoo.com>
>> >> >> To: "Amps" <amps at contesting.com>
>> >> >> Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 8:13 PM
>> >> >> Subject: Re: [Amps] High SWR,
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I know this has been said before, but just because your SWR meter
>> >> >> > says
>> >> >> > there is x Watts of power coming back down the line, it doesn't 
>> >> >> > mean
>> >> >> > that it is being dissipated in your transmitter. All it means is
>> >> >> > that
>> >> >> > the transmitter sees a load other than 50 Ohms (or whatever) - 
>> >> >> > and
>> >> >> > it
>> >> >> > may or may not be able to match it. If you have a really bad
>> >> >> > mismatch
>> >> >> > you can (apparently) have the situation that your 100W 
>> >> >> > transmitter
>> >> >> > is
>> >> >> > (say) transmitting 1kW and getting 900W back. Obviously that 
>> >> >> > can't
>> >> >> > really happen - the reason that it seems to is that the SWR meter 
>> >> >> > is
>> >> >> > measuring Volt-Amperes (reactive power) rather than Watts (real
>> >> >> > power) - that is that the current and voltage are not in phase -
>> >> >> > except in the special case of a 1:1 SWR.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > 73 Roger
>> >> >> > VE3ZI
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
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