[Amps] High SWR,

KB0NLY kb0nly at mchsi.com
Thu Apr 23 06:57:19 PDT 2009 

Hope to catch you on the radio some day here as well!

73,

Scott


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Alek Petkovic" <vk6apk at bigpond.com>
To: "KB0NLY" <kb0nly at mchsi.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 8:55 AM
Subject: Re: [Amps] High SWR,


> No worries Scott. Nice to work you on this medium anyway. Maybe one
> day we'll have a chance to do it on the radio.
>
> 73 again,
> Alek.
>
> PS: Looked you up on qrz.com. Nice bio. Seeya.
>
>
> At 09:47 PM 23/04/2009, you wrote:
>>Thin skinned no, but tired of people like Carl who pretend to be better 
>>than
>>everyone.
>>
>>73,
>>
>>Scott
>>
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Alek Petkovic" <vk6apk at bigpond.com>
>>To: "KB0NLY" <kb0nly at mchsi.com>
>>Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 8:41 AM
>>Subject: Re: [Amps] High SWR,
>>
>>
>> > G'day Scott,
>> >
>> > No he hasn't attacked you or anyone else. He is just Carl and there
>> > is plenty of room for him on this reflector and all others in which
>> > he actively participates.
>> >
>> > You must be very thin skinned if you are a grown man and take offence
>> > at such a trifling thing.
>> >
>> > Relax mate. Life is too short to get upset about something that
>> > somebody wrote in an email.
>> >
>> > Cheers and greetings from sunny downunder,
>> > Alek. VK6APK
>> >
>> > At 09:24 PM 23/04/2009, KB0NLY wrote:
>> >>By now Carl is probably making posts that attack me in person, most 
>> >>likely
>> >>attacking my intelligence or some other mental ability, that's where he
>> >>always takes it.  So have fun reading his replies as I have added him 
>> >>to
>> >>my
>> >>blocked list here and put him into my custom spam blocker so he gets 
>> >>some
>> >>nice auto replies...
>> >>
>> >>73,
>> >>
>> >>Scott
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>----- Original Message -----
>> >>From: "Pete Smith" <n4zr at contesting.com>
>> >>To: "KB0NLY" <kb0nly at mchsi.com>; <amps at contesting.com>
>> >>Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 5:34 AM
>> >>Subject: Re: [Amps] High SWR,
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > Carl occasionally goes too far, but he also has forgotten more about
>> >> > amps (from a practical and repair perspective, especially) than most
>> >> > of us will ever learn.  He's a valuable resource, and it would be a
>> >> > shame to have him banned.  Use your delete key or filter his 
>> >> > messages.
>> >> >
>> >> > Compared to the flame wars of old, this is pretty tame stuff.
>> >> >
>> >> > 73, Pete N4ZR
>> >> >
>> >> > At 10:47 PM 4/22/2009, KB0NLY wrote:
>> >> >>Why doesn't someone finally kick Carl off here for god's sake?  I 
>> >> >>can't
>> >> >>remember the last time he contributing something on topic or worth
>> >> >>reading.
>> >> >>I was on a different computer today when his comments came through,
>> >> >>forgot
>> >> >>to block him on here, now he is in the block list on both computers.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>73,
>> >> >>
>> >> >>Scott
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>----- Original Message -----
>> >> >>From: "Gary Schafer" <garyschafer at comcast.net>
>> >> >>To: "'Carl'" <km1h at jeremy.mv.com>; <ve3zi at rac.ca>; "'Amps'"
>> >> >><amps at contesting.com>
>> >> >>Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 9:28 PM
>> >> >>Subject: Re: [Amps] High SWR,
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Well, spouting off can be a good thing. That's what the reflector 
>> >> >> > is
>> >> >> > for.
>> >> >> > So
>> >> >> > people can learn from one another. Plus it provides some
>> >> >> > entertainment
>> >> >> > for
>> >> >> > us old farts.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > 73
>> >> >> > Gary  K4FMX
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> >> >> From: amps-bounces at contesting.com
>> >> >> >> [mailto:amps-bounces at contesting.com]
>> >> >> >> On
>> >> >> >> Behalf Of Carl
>> >> >> >> Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 8:35 PM
>> >> >> >> To: ve3zi at rac.ca; Amps
>> >> >> >> Subject: Re: [Amps] High SWR,
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Roger, youre correct; its been said so many times you would 
>> >> >> >> think
>> >> >> >> it
>> >> >> >> would sink in.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> But with noobs from the CB/FM ranks old myths die hard. They 
>> >> >> >> cant
>> >> >> >> be
>> >> >> >> bothered buying a Handbook or Antenna Manual and just spout off 
>> >> >> >> on
>> >> >> >> here
>> >> >> >> and elsewhere with zero idea of what they are talking about.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Carl
>> >> >> >> KM1H
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> >> >> From: "Roger Parsons" <ve3zi at yahoo.com>
>> >> >> >> To: "Amps" <amps at contesting.com>
>> >> >> >> Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 8:13 PM
>> >> >> >> Subject: Re: [Amps] High SWR,
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > I know this has been said before, but just because your SWR 
>> >> >> >> > meter
>> >> >> >> > says
>> >> >> >> > there is x Watts of power coming back down the line, it 
>> >> >> >> > doesn't
>> >> >> >> > mean
>> >> >> >> > that it is being dissipated in your transmitter. All it means 
>> >> >> >> > is
>> >> >> >> > that
>> >> >> >> > the transmitter sees a load other than 50 Ohms (or whatever) -
>> >> >> >> > and
>> >> >> >> > it
>> >> >> >> > may or may not be able to match it. If you have a really bad
>> >> >> >> > mismatch
>> >> >> >> > you can (apparently) have the situation that your 100W
>> >> >> >> > transmitter
>> >> >> >> > is
>> >> >> >> > (say) transmitting 1kW and getting 900W back. Obviously that
>> >> >> >> > can't
>> >> >> >> > really happen - the reason that it seems to is that the SWR 
>> >> >> >> > meter
>> >> >> >> > is
>> >> >> >> > measuring Volt-Amperes (reactive power) rather than Watts 
>> >> >> >> > (real
>> >> >> >> > power) - that is that the current and voltage are not in 
>> >> >> >> > phase -
>> >> >> >> > except in the special case of a 1:1 SWR.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > 73 Roger
>> >> >> >> > VE3ZI
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
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