[Amps] Fw: Electricity costs

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So Dave, is that how you became "sootydave"?
 
73,
Gerald K5GW
 
In a message dated 12/8/2009 9:36:47 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
sootydave at yahoo.com writes:


Well i see the funny side of that.
In the UK electric  customers used to put nails across the meter feed, so 
as to have electric  supply after the electric company had cut them off.
Dave  
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----- Forwarded Message  ----
From: Dr. David Kirkby <david.kirkby at onetel.net>
To:  amps at contesting.com
Sent: Tue, December 8, 2009 8:24:28 PM
Subject: Re:  [Amps] Electricity costs

Steve wrote:
> I copied Colin's post  about 110/220V operating to a couple of friends.
> 
> One  replied:
> 
> "It reminds me of my Nan. She had this electric fire  running 3 bars all 
> day. We suggested that it might be costing her a  fortune. She said, it 
> wasn't costing her a penny since she had  borrowed it from next door."
> 
> Now there's an interesting  concept :-)
> 
> Steve
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An ex work  colleague of mine told me it often possible to get some 
electricity 
free,  by using the voltage between earth and neutral. These are tied 
together at  
the local sub-station, but at your house they probably have different  
slightly 
potentials. Making use of this, will not be detected by your  electric 
meter.

There's no doubt in my house, if neutral and earth are  shorted, the 30 mA 
RCD 
will trip, so I'm assuming I could get > 30 mA,  but the voltage is quite 
low, so 
I do not think you will run a 3 bar  electric fire from it. Perhaps enough 
to 
light a few LEDs.

It goes  without saying, but bypassing RCDs to get free electricity like 
this 
would  have safety  implications.


Dave
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