[Amps] BAD DEAL STAY AWAY! / an alternative source

[Carl]

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave Cole" <dave at nk7z.net>
To: <amps at contesting.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 12:45 AM
Subject: Re: [Amps] BAD DEAL STAY AWAY! / an alternative source


>I have found just the opposite...  I have had two cases with Paypal over
> a 15 year period...  I was the buyer, and in both cases I feel I got
> cheated by the seller...
>
> Case 1:
> I sent money to a person for an item, never got the item...  Got email
> telling me it would be shipped real soon now...  But somehow it never
> got shipped.  Within 30 days Paypal removed the funds from the seller,
> and deposited them in my account.  The seller never responded to Paypal
> when they asked for his side of the story.  That vendor no longer has
> the Paypal logo on his website...


I think you got that a bit wrong. When you open a dispute with PayPal they 
immediately withdraw the seller funds but dont tell you. In your case the 
seller probably figured "why bother responding, I'll just let him wait for 
PayPal to close the case".


>
> Case 2:
> I purchased an item, it arrived damaged, (I am sure it happened in
> shipping), and the vendor offered to send a part to fix the item, being
> unsure it would correct the issue, the catch-- if it did not fix the
> issue too bad for me, the deal would be over...  The replacement part
> was a 50 cent part BTW...  To make a long story short, I told the vendor
> I would return his item, at his postage expense, as I had paid shipping
> already to get it delivered.  The vendor went insane...  Started telling
> me about his money problems, his house mortgage, his and his parents
> health issues, etc. and how he would not pay a dime in postage because
> of these other issues no matter what...  He stupidly did this in
> email...  I sent all of this along to Paypal, and within 30 days, and
> after Paypal had been in touch with the vendor, they found in my
> favor...
>
> I based on this, I will simply not do business with ANYONE who will not
> take PayPal.
>
> Could you expand on what happened to you?


PayPal written policy is that the buyer returns items at his own expense and 
it is also right in the sellers listing if you bother to read the details. 
It sounds as if you want both sides of the bread buttered.

Carl
KM1H



>
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> Dave
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>
>
> On Tue, 2013-03-19 at 21:24 -0500, Eddie-kv5i wrote:
>> Partner, Epay ain't gonna do a damn thing about anything! I had a 100%
>> record since 1997. I had a new "amateur radio operator" from Florida 
>> steal
>> my $80, my item, and ruin my record. Epay will do nothing except steal 
>> your
>> money and then let PayPal steal the rest.
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Tom Horton" <k5iid at sbcglobal.net>
>> To: <amps at contesting.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 8:47 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Amps] BAD DEAL STAY AWAY! / an alternative source
>>
>>
>> Carey,
>> I hope you have reported this to eBay. Send a copy of his letter backto 
>> you
>> as well... He will probably be seen to.
>> Tom K5IID
>>
>> There is no joy in Mudville!
>>
>>
>> K5IID Tom Horton Hillsboro, TX
>> E sorter for ARRL W5 bureau
>> Same call for 55 years!
>>
>> --- On Tue, 3/19/13, Leigh Turner <invertech at frontierisp.net.au> wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: Leigh Turner <invertech at frontierisp.net.au>
>> Subject: Re: [Amps] BAD DEAL STAY AWAY! / an alternative source
>> To: amps at contesting.com
>> Date: Tuesday, March 19, 2013, 7:29 PM
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Carey,
>>
>> It is disconcerting to hear this unprincipled cowboy story.
>>
>> If you want an honest and reliable and fairly priced source of Russian
>> military surplus tubes then you can't go past Dr Alex Garvva UR4LL in
>> Ukraine. I've dealt with Alex for many years and never had a dud tube or 
>> any
>> other component.
>>
>> http://www.ur4ll.net/
>>
>> Dr Alex is highly recommended.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Leigh
>> VK5KLT
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Amps [mailto:amps-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Carey 
>> Lockhart
>> Sent: Wednesday, 20 March 2013 10:34 AM
>> To: amps at contesting.com
>> Subject: [Amps] BAD DEAL STAY AWAY!
>>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> I would like to say that i am not in the habit of flaming someone but
>> this guy i will. I went to ebay and purchased a pair of gs35b tubes from
>> a seller named Tube-Shop also known as Serge UT5JCW for the only reason
>> that he offered a 14 day return. i usally buy from qro-parts with no
>> problems. so i did get the tubes and yes one was bad. i emailed Serge
>> UT5JCW and asked to exchange the bad tube. he said fine. meantime after
>> thinking about it i desided it would be cheaper for both of us if i
>> would just buy another tube without a cooler. 80 dollars to be exact. so
>> today i went to his store on ebay and added the tube and a really neat
>> little transverter board to my cart. guess what i have been blocked from
>> buying from him and can not even contact him through ebay. after digging
>> through old emails i find his address from the paypal payment. i email
>> him and ask why i was blocked. here is his reply and quote
>>
>> "To be hornest I can say you why. I always block the buyers when they
>> return the goods. You know there is an old tubes and sometimes we have no
>> way to check how buyers use them. Sometimes they broke the tubes by 
>> misusing
>> them and then return the tubes back. Here no way to change them so we 
>> lost
>> the money. To buy the tubes somewhere else.
>>
>> ---
>> With best regards, Serge UT5JCW " end quote.
>>
>> i am not sure what to think of this. and hate to see another builder get
>> burned. but just be warned about buying from Serge UT5JCW
>>
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