[Amps] Building an Amp 101

Carl km1h at jeremy.mv.com
Sun Jan 19 11:05:30 EST 2014


There is no logic in using vacuum relays in place of a bandswitch in a ham 
amp at 2500-3200V or so. The senior Ameritrons certainly dont have a blown 
bandswitch reputation even at 3200V.

If an amp arcs then fix the problem with some engineering and not mask it 
with brute force or no personal experience.

Carl
KM1H




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Al Kozakiewicz" <akozak at hourglass.com>
To: "MU 4CX250B" <4cx250b at miamioh.edu>
Cc: <amps at contesting.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2014 10:43 AM
Subject: Re: [Amps] Building an Amp 101


> To make it clear, I've never tried this so I'm not speaking from personal 
> experience.
>
> But it seems logical to me that if a vacuum relay is required for the 
> voltages and duty involved, then a bandswitch is out of the question as 
> well, isn't it?  My thought is that, putting aside questions around 
> stray-L that might arise from the insertion of a relay, it's easier to 
> find a relay with sufficient contact spacing than it is to find a 
> bandswitch with a large enough diameter to maintain the same spacing 
> between contact elements.
>
> I guess these sorts of problems is why it's called engineering and not 
> science!
>
> Al
> AB2ZY
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: MU 4CX250B [mailto:4cx250b at miamioh.edu]
> Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2014 9:32 AM
> To: Al Kozakiewicz
> Cc: amps at contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [Amps] Building an Amp 101
>
> Relays are certainly a possibility, Al, but for a nine band amplifier 
> things get a bit complicated. My latest project ( 90% completed) is a 
> duo - band 80m/160m amplifier with a pi- L tank circuit, and for that I am 
> using two DPDT vacuum relays, each of which cost over $100.
> Scaling that up to a nine band amplifier doesn't seem very practical or 
> cost-effective.
> 73,
> Jim w8zr
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jan 18, 2014, at 8:52 AM, Al Kozakiewicz <akozak at hourglass.com> wrote:
>>
>> Why not use relays appropriate for the switching duty?  Then the 
>> bandswitch can be just about anything or even remotely controlled.  Plus 
>> you can locate the switch where it's convenient to operate instead of 
>> being constrained by the necessity to place it close to the RF 
>> components.
>>
>> Al
>> AB2ZY
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