[Amps] more - oil bath GS-35b

[Steve Wright]

Thanks greatly Chris for your additions there.  It would have been a lot 
of work for me to make clear examples like that, but you see them 
regularly so can comment concisely.  Most of my lessons learned about 
cooling have been from the automotive world, in particular, pushing the 
coolant through the radiator so fast, that the radiator cannot extract 
the heat from it.  I've added a few comments to your words - if one of 
them is glaringly wrong, do feel free to put your big boot on top of the 
offending section!  Best regards mate! ;)

On 02/04/15 05:00, chris at chriswilson.tv wrote:
> There are optimum flow rates based on heat exchanger coolant medium [...]

> [...] depends on the surface area of the inside and outside elements 
> of the exchanger and the device being cooled. 

> Different areas of the engine run at different temperatures, and flow 
> rate is varied to optimize heat extraction. 

Flow rates can easily be managed in parallel circuits by using 
restrictors and valving.  Flows depend on the type of exchanger, cooling 
or heating.  In serial circuits, flow (coolant time) is managed by tube 
size or length.


> For sure faster flow is *NOT* necessarily better. In automotive racing 
> water (or water mix) coolant is NOT flowed as fast as possible through 
> the engine, but very careful design has water flow going at different 
> rates in different parts of the engine.
Race cars must not undercool some part, but may not throw loads of 
energy at the problem when that loss of power may cost them the race.  
Correspondlingly, in the shack we won't run fans and pumps at full speed 
because they are noisy, and may be counterproductive.


> thermostats have restrictor plates to control water flow rates. 
> Current cooling systems use electronic water pump drives and 
> electronic thermostats to optimize flow according to load, blah blah. 
> Air flow through heat exchangers is similarly regulated for optimum 
> heat exchange speeds.
The thermostat must not open and blow hot coolant through the radiator 
at high velocity, or there will not be enough time for the heat to be 
removed.


> I am sure in an oil to air heat exchanger with a submerged valve there 
> will be an optimal flow rate for the oil and the air, that is far away 
> from the fastest flow rate [...]
Slower is better.  Monitor the output temperature of the radiator and 
throttle coolant flow, but then there must be adequate coolant flow for 
the tubeset.  Size of radiator is adjusted to get "coolant time in the 
radiator".

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Yes, a oil-cooled tubeset is a parallel path.  It may be that one tube 
runs hotter and measures must be taken.  I hope not.  Maybe a piece of 
pipework may be pinched slightly to compensate.

I think I have most of the "cooling stuff" in the ballpark.  I won't be 
spending much more time on it unless I find a show-stopper or someone 
else does, so if anyone has a well thought out show-stopper I'd be keen 
hear it!

Note for readers just joining this discussion - the project is about 
using an alternative cooling paradigm, for the purpose of getting noisy 
blowers out of the shack.

Steve