[Amps] Re Henry 2K desktop amp

Joe Cucuzza cucuzza18 at gmail.com
Sat Jun 29 15:36:27 EDT 2019 

Hopefully,  the tube socket just needs to be cleaned from some oxidation.
Possibly the solder has flowed out of the filament pins.  Tube could be
bad, too.
The impedance problem is probably caused by the 1 tube not working.  The
output network is designed for 2 tubes working in parallel.  Also, the 2K
Desktop Henry has the filaments wired in parallel, while a lot of the older
floor models have the filaments wired in series.
Do not power up the amp with the covers off, the interlock will damage the
HV circuitry, even if the amp is in standby.
High voltage is present whenever the amp is on!
There are at least 2 schematics for the 2K Desktop. One manual has an 800
phone number on the front page, the other has a Telex number.
73 Joe KA8WEP

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>    1. Are Amps Slow on the uptake? Or is it just me? (Jeff in Mali:)
>    2. Kenwood TL-922 Meter Needed (Jim)
>    3. Henry 2K desktop amp (Ted Rachwal)
>    4. Re: 3cx800a7 chimeny (Carl)
>    5. Re: Need some amplifier advice (Carl)
>    6. HV rectifier (Paul Kraemer)
>    7. Re: Need some amplifier advice (Carl)
>    8. Re: Need some amplifier advice (Carl)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2019 16:41:07 +0000 (UTC)
> From: "Jeff in Mali:" <tz4am at aol.com>
> To: amps at contesting.com
> Subject: [Amps] Are Amps Slow on the uptake? Or is it just me?
> Message-ID: <1235694241.232387.1561567267232 at mail.yahoo.com>
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> I have been noticing in my pileups that I have a hard time copying the
> first couple of letters of people call signs in pileups on CW..
> After listening more carefully, what I seen to find is that the strength
> of the signal as the amps fire up on CW is up to 2 S-units lower than when
> it gets to full power.
> Is this the case that amps take a few milliseconds to come up to full
> power?? And therefore it may be putting out less than full power on the
> first few letters of a call sign than on latter letters?
> 73,?
> Jeff?TZ4AM
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2019 16:37:49 -0500
> From: Jim <jimw7ry at gmail.com>
> To: amps at contesting.com
> Subject: [Amps] Kenwood TL-922 Meter Needed
> Message-ID: <c11a970e-6849-70a3-02f5-ba56bf675f6b at gmail.com>
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> Hey group! I'm installing a W7RY QSK into a friends TL-922 and the plate
> meter is bad.
>
> Anyone have one laying around they want to sell?
>
> Let me know.
> Thanks!
>
> --
> Thanks
> 73
> Jim W7RY
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> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2019 11:46:56 -0400
> From: Ted Rachwal <tarachwal at gmail.com>
> To: amps at contesting.com
> Subject: [Amps] Henry 2K desktop amp
> Message-ID: <62d3a7bc-58a3-5048-2016-a9a104a05222 at gmail.com>
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> All of a sudden I have a very high swr between the rig and amp...3:1....
> I notice one of the 3500Z tubes is not lit.? I'm wondering if I can pull
> the unlit 3-500Z and try the amp to see if the issue is the tube or some
> other part.? I have pulled a suspect 572b and 811 in the Ameritron
> series of amp and all was ok but wonder if the remaining 3-500Z would be
> damaged if I tried this trick?? Anyone have a thought here?
>
> 73,
>
> Ted K8AQM
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> Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2019 14:08:02 -0400
> From: "Carl" <km1h at jeremy.qozzy.com>
> To: <amps at contesting.com>,      "LB2HG" <lb2hg at mimer.no>
> Subject: Re: [Amps] 3cx800a7 chimeny
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> Thats the stuff Harald.
>
> Carl
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> Sent: Monday, June 24, 2019 4:03 AM
> Subject: Re: [Amps] 3cx800a7 chimeny
>
>
> > Is it this one you recommend Carl ?
> >
> >
> https://www.grainger.com/search?searchBar=true&searchQuery=red+rubber+sheet
> >
> > 73
> > Harald, LB2HG / AA4NX
> > LIFE IS TOO SHORT FOR QRP
> >
> > My region: http://www.visitalesund-geiranger.com/en/
> >
> > On 17.06.2019 21.25, Carl wrote:
> >> Make one from that red sheet rubber sold at Granger, etc.
> >> Tube heat and RF doesnt faze it
> >>
> >> Staple it once formed. Ive used it on 8877s' for decades.
> >>
> >> Carl
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ted Rachwal" <tarachwal at gmail.com>
> >> To: <amps at contesting.com>
> >> Sent: Friday, June 14, 2019 7:54 PM
> >> Subject: [Amps] 3cx800a7 chimeny
> >>
> >>
> >>> Looking for a chimney for a 3CX800A7 tube...RF parts wants a fortune
> for
> >>> them! Anyone have an extra around to sell me, need just one?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>>
> >>> Ted K8AQM
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> Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2019 16:18:18 -0400
> From: "Carl" <km1h at jeremy.qozzy.com>
> To: "Joe Herdler" <joe.herdler at yahoo.com>,      <amps at contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [Amps] Need some amplifier advice
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> Find an old Johnson Thunderbolt, they are almost free these days.
>
> Carl
>
>
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> From: "Joe Herdler via Amps" <amps at contesting.com>
> To: <amps at contesting.com>
> Sent: Monday, June 24, 2019 9:48 PM
> Subject: [Amps] Need some amplifier advice
>
>
> > Hi All,
> > I am looking either for plans for an 80 meter mono-band amplifier
> > optimized for the RTTY portion of the band or an actual amplifier
> itself.
> > I want an all tube amplifier, including the power supply. I want no
> solid
> > state components at all in this amp. I would like it to be very
> > "overbuilt" so that when I run it at 500 watts RF power, it is just
> > idling. Of course, this is for RTTY, so it would be continuous duty at
> 500
> > Watts. I do not want to operate any higher than about 5oo watts.
> > I would like full metering. It does not need to be rack mounted, but I
> do
> > want a rugged chassis, and excessive ventilation to keep the tubes safe
> > and so that those tubes last a long time. I do want it to be fully
> > enclosed to keep four and two legged children safe from the lethal
> > voltages.
> >
> > Any ideas or locations for plans would be greatly appreciated.
> >
> > Thank you so much!
> > 73,
> > Joe Herdler KB0TXC
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> Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2019 22:04:43 -0500
> From: Paul Kraemer <elespe at lisco.com>
> To: amps at contesting.com
> Subject: [Amps] HV rectifier
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> I found a couple hv rectifier blocks in my stash but unable to id them.?
> General Electric logo part no. 4JA421MX55.
>
> Any help?? They are 1" square by 5.5" long with terminals on top, one at
> each end.
>
> Paul K0UYA
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> Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2019 14:22:40 -0400
> From: "Carl" <km1h at jeremy.qozzy.com>
> To: "Jim Thomson" <jim.thom at telus.net>, <amps at contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [Amps] Need some amplifier advice
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> Why not just try to deal with his request or otherwise stifle the urge to
> reply.
>
> Id suggest 3B28's in placeof 866A's however, a direct swap.
>
> Carl
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jim Thomson" <jim.thom at telus.net>
> To: <amps at contesting.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2019 12:45 PM
> Subject: [Amps] Need some amplifier advice
>
>
> > Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2019 01:48:47 +0000 (UTC)
> > From: Joe Herdler <joe.herdler at yahoo.com>
> > To: amps at contesting.com
> > Subject: [Amps] Need some amplifier advice
> >
> > <Hi All,
> > <I am looking either for plans for an 80 meter mono-band amplifier
> > optimized for the RTTY portion of the band or an actual amplifier
> itself.
> > I want an all tube amplifier, including the power supply. I want no
> solid
> > state components at all in this amp. I would like <it to be very
> > "overbuilt" so that when I run it at 500 watts RF power, it is just
> > idling. Of course, this is for RTTY, so it would be continuous duty at
> 500
> > Watts. I do not want to operate any higher than about 5oo watts.
> > <I would like full metering. It does not need to be rack mounted, but I
> do
> > want a rugged chassis, and excessive ventilation to keep the tubes safe
> > and so that those tubes last a long time. I do want it to be fully
> > enclosed to keep four and two legged children safe <from the lethal
> > voltages.
> >
> > <Any ideas or locations for plans would be greatly appreciated.?
> >
> > <Thank you so much!
> > <73,
> > <Joe Herdler KB0TXC
> >
> > ##  why mess  with tube rectifiers ??   That implies using a   full
> wave
> > center tap config....  which is a dead loss  imo.
> > Then  u would also require the mating fil xfmr for the tube
> rectifiers...
> > which has the  B+  coming out of the  CT of the fil xfmr.
> > Its  not  1956  anymore.   You cant  blow up   6A10  diodes, nor
> > 10A10.... or  10A07s.
> >
> > Jim   VE7RF
> >
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> Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2019 10:59:11 -0400
> From: "Carl" <km1h at jeremy.qozzy.com>
> To: "Jim Thomson" <jim.thom at telus.net>, <amps at contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [Amps] Need some amplifier advice
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jim Thomson" <jim.thom at telus.net>
> To: "Carl" <km1h at jeremy.qozzy.com>; <amps at contesting.com>
> Sent: Friday, June 28, 2019 1:34 AM
> Subject: Re: [Amps] Need some amplifier advice
>
>
> >
> > <Id suggest 3B28's in placeof 866A's however, a direct swap.
> >
> > <Carl
> >
> > ##  are 3b28 and 866s still  available ?   How long will the filaments
> in
> > them last ?
>
> Forever for 3B28's has been my experience so far and they are readily
> available nor do they flash over like 866A's.
>
> > I only have experience with 816s and  866s... mid 70s era.   Worked
> good
> > at the time.
> >
> > ##  Then I discovered  1N5408s.   Then 6A10s.   10A10s  and  10A07s  are
> > both  10 A rated.
> > The  10A07 is  600A  surge rated.
> >
> > ##  IF the tube rectifiers are still available, and plentiful... go for
> > it. And if  sources eventually dry up,
> > then a swap to  SS  rectifiers is  straightforward.
> >
> > Jim   VE7RF
>
> Direct SS plug in replacements are still everywhere as so many were
> produced
> for broadcast, military, and other electronics as the 1N2367 and a few
> other
> numbers. I used a pair a few years ago in a Bauer 707 BC TX I maintain.
>
> Carl
> >
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