[Amps] World's worst coax connectors
donroden at hiwaay.net
donroden at hiwaay.net
Sun Apr 23 15:59:01 EDT 2023
All this is interesting. During my time working at colocated AMs and
doing hundreds of remotes on sat trucks, I don't remember having to
connect the shells of an xlr to pin 1 to eliminate external pickup.
George Washington Bridge seemed to work well.
Don W4DNR
On 2023-04-23 1:19 pm, Jim Brown wrote:
> On 4/23/2023 9:43 AM, jim.thom jim.thom at telus.net wrote:
>
>> ALL of my XLR cables I fabricated myself, were 1 pair, twisted, and
>> teflon
>> insulated..and a woven braid, then the outer pvc sheath...(surplus
>> telco
>> cable we tossed at work).
>
> Jim,
>
> AES Standards, like all REAL Standards, are produced by engineers
> working in a very broad cross-section of the industries who will use
> those Standards. Your application is but a pimple on the elephant. The
> company whose advice you quote, while the designer of truly
> excellent-sounding dynamics processing (for its time) for broadcasting
> and broadcast production, also sells products with SCREAMING Pin One
> Problems, one of which was among several I tested in the VHF-UHF-rich
> environment of downtown Chicago. With properly wired test cables, its
> RF susceptibility made it un-useable. This 2003 AES Paper documents
> that work. http://k9yc.com/AESPaperNYPin1-ASGWeb.pdf
>
> This AES Paper documents corresponding work on condenser mics from
> Neumann, AKG, Sennheiser, and Shure. Although not identified by name,
> the worst offender was Neumnann, the best was Sennheiser. When I showed
> this to the AES Standards Working Group on mics, which included
> members from those companies and others, I did identify them. The
> amusing part was that Sennheiser had by then acquired Neumann, but
> their engineering groups were independent operations.
> http://k9yc.com/AESPaperNYPin1-ASGWeb.pdf
>
> The digital revolution has drastically changed audio signal
> distribution for large scale production in the years since AES analog
> Standards were written, but the stated practice was absolutely
> essential when, for example, in medium to large scale music
> performances two 32-64-input mix desks, usually at widely separated
> locations, are producing separate mixes from the same mics -- one for
> the audience, another for performers on stage. And there are direct
> feeds from amplified instruments like keyboards, guitar, and bass, that
> feed their own amps running on stage power. If the production is being
> broadcast or recorded, a third mix in a truck is producing that mix. In
> addition to their physical separation, the truck will have it's own
> power feed. Those separate mix desks within the facility, or with a
> touring company, were often NOT from transformer isolated splits. AES
> Standards are written so that those applications are viable.
>
> 73, Jim K9YC
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