[CCF] Fw: The European Triangle and Fair Play
Seppo Sisättö
tisesi@uta.fi
Mon, 22 Oct 2001 08:28:30 +0300
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Hyv=E4t yst=E4v=E4t,
Eik=F6 kilpailuissa en=E4=E4 menestyk=E4=E4n taidoilla. T=E4m=E4 =
Euroopan kolmio
on t=E4ytt=E4 h=F6lynp=F6ly=E4 - ainoa tavoite on hankkia kolmelle =
asemalle lis=E4=E4
yhteyksi=E4. Perustelen asiaa seuraavasti:
1) Asemat ovat kesken=E4=E4n t=E4ysin eriarvoisia muutenkin kuin =
sijainnin
osalta. Vai ovatko mastot, antennit, transceiverit, tehot ja qth:t =
maas-
toprofiileineen t=E4ysin identtiset? Sit=E4 ep=E4ilen. Triangelin =
l=E4ht=F6kohdat
riitt=E4v=E4t siten korkeintaan kotimaiseen MBA:han, jossa =
kurssity=F6t=20
teetet=E4=E4n tutuilla..
2) Miksi julkistaa t=E4m=E4 kilpailuetiikan kannalta ep=E4ilytt=E4v=E4 =
juttu juuri
ennen kilpailua. Siihen ei ole muita syit=E4 kuin kilpailuedun =
hankki-
minen n=E4ille kolmelle asemalle. Jos ko. triangeli on niin hieno ja
kiinnostava juttu kun sen yritet=E4=E4n vakuuttaa olevan, tulokset
voisi analysoida rauhassa kisan j=E4lkeen, ilman t=E4llaista ennakko-
mainostusta.
3) Eip=E4 silti, ainakin yhdelle kolmesta t=E4st=E4 on tullut maan tapa.
Hyv=E4st=E4 viinipullosta min=E4kin voisin t=E4n=E4 vuonna workkia =
ko.
herran kuudella bandilla ja antaa viel=E4 WARC-qsot kaupan-
p=E4=E4lle. Takavuosien viinitarjous ei vain taida olla en=E4=E4 =
voimassa.
4) Uskooko, teist=E4 todella joku, ett=E4 t=E4m=E4n triangelin =
tavoitteet ovat
jotain muuta kuin kilpailuedun hankkiminen muihin?
Edellisiin kommentteihin liittyen, palautan mieliinne viel=E4 parin =
viikon
takaisen viestini johtaville kilpailu- ja DX-miehille. Se on t=E4ss=E4 =
jatkona.
Seppo OH1VR
PS. Joka workkii minut kilpailussa saa palkinnoksi 5915 -raportin!
Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2001 11:52 AM
Subject: Fair play -rules
Dear Mr. Chairman,
Most of the active radioamateurs are interested in DXing and/or =
Contesting. On the
top level there are, in both DXing and Contesting, phenomena which do =
not use=20
fair play rules. E.g. using illegal power, using cellular phones for =
calling=20
multipliers, using certificates, t-shirts, wine bottles, special reports =
to them who
will work 'me' on six bands etc., two simultaneous signals in single op. =
class, clusters, friends help... etc. There are plenty of examples.
=20
Proving of the usage of unproper means is always difficult but it is =
worth of trying. I do wonder why the discussion concerning moral matters =
in Contesting and DXing is almost nonexistent.
In DXing there are groups who are fighting with others: who is first =
here and there. Fair comptetition is OK but how about stealing =
'competitors' DX-pedition? That happened to
XY1HT and it is also widely known that something like that happened in =
North-Korea etc.
Somebody has done the basic work and some others are stealing it.
Sometimes, like in Myanmar, using ARRL staff as a partner (as we know =
ARRL
is governing the acceptance of DX-peditions).. It is a dirty game and a =
dark side
of DXing. Regular amateur radio operator is not interested in what has =
happened behind the scene - he just wants to have a new call in his =
logbook.=20
It is short term thinking of national leagues to allow this to happen. =
The future of
ham radio is depending of our good relations with the =
national/international
(like ITU) authorities. We are pursuading authorities to give us=20
licenses, special callsigns, more bands, more power etc. As many
competiting groups are approaching them with different competing =
arguments,
things have come complicated. Especially as arguments are against the =
ones
of the competing group. And this happens a lot.=20
At least 95 % of DX-peditions do not use faul methods but the 'hottest' =
are
not always organized by fair play rules. The question is: what is our =
attitude
towards this dark side?
Best regards,
OH1VR
Seppo Sisatto, PhD
Ojakatu 3 A 18
33100 Tampere
FINLAND
Tel. +358-50-1372, E-mail: seppo.sisatto@kotiposti.net =20
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<DIV>Hyv=E4t yst=E4v=E4t,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Eik=F6 kilpailuissa en=E4=E4 menestyk=E4=E4n taidoilla. T=E4m=E4 =
Euroopan kolmio</DIV>
<DIV>on t=E4ytt=E4 h=F6lynp=F6ly=E4 - ainoa tavoite on hankkia kolmelle =
asemalle=20
lis=E4=E4</DIV>
<DIV>yhteyksi=E4. Perustelen asiaa seuraavasti:</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>1) Asemat ovat kesken=E4=E4n t=E4ysin eriarvoisia muutenkin =
kuin=20
sijainnin</DIV>
<DIV> osalta. Vai ovatko mastot, antennit, =
transceiverit,=20
tehot ja qth:t maas-</DIV>
<DIV> toprofiileineen t=E4ysin identtiset? Sit=E4 ep=E4ilen. =
Triangelin=20
l=E4ht=F6kohdat</DIV>
<DIV> riitt=E4v=E4t siten korkeintaan kotimaiseen MBA:han, =
jossa=20
kurssity=F6t </DIV>
<DIV> teetet=E4=E4n tutuilla..</DIV>
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<DIV>2) Miksi julkistaa t=E4m=E4 kilpailuetiikan kannalta =
ep=E4ilytt=E4v=E4 juttu=20
juuri</DIV>
<DIV> ennen kilpailua. Siihen ei ole muita syit=E4 =
kuin=20
kilpailuedun hankki-</DIV>
<DIV> minen n=E4ille kolmelle asemalle. Jos ko. triangeli on =
niin=20
hieno ja</DIV>
<DIV> kiinnostava juttu kun sen yritet=E4=E4n vakuuttaa =
olevan,=20
tulokset</DIV>
<DIV> voisi analysoida rauhassa kisan j=E4lkeen, ilman =
t=E4llaista=20
ennakko-</DIV>
<DIV> mainostusta.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>3) Eip=E4 silti, ainakin yhdelle kolmesta t=E4st=E4 on tullut maan =
tapa.</DIV>
<DIV> Hyv=E4st=E4 viinipullosta min=E4kin voisin =
t=E4n=E4 vuonna workkia=20
ko.</DIV>
<DIV> herran kuudella bandilla ja antaa viel=E4 =
WARC-qsot=20
kaupan-</DIV>
<DIV> p=E4=E4lle. Takavuosien viinitarjous ei vain =
taida olla en=E4=E4=20
voimassa.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>4) Uskooko, teist=E4 todella joku, ett=E4 t=E4m=E4n triangelin =
tavoitteet=20
ovat</DIV>
<DIV> jotain muuta kuin kilpailuedun hankkiminen =
muihin?</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Edellisiin kommentteihin liittyen, palautan mieliinne viel=E4 parin =
viikon</DIV>
<DIV>takaisen viestini johtaville kilpailu- ja DX-miehille. Se on =
t=E4ss=E4=20
jatkona.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Seppo OH1VR</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>PS. Joka workkii minut kilpailussa saa palkinnoksi 5915 =
-raportin!</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, October 07, 2001 11:52 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Fair play -rules</DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dear Mr. Chairman,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Most of the active radioamateurs are =
interested in=20
DXing and/or Contesting. On the</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>top level there are, in both DXing and =
Contesting,=20
phenomena which do not use </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>fair play rules. E.g. using illegal =
power, using=20
cellular phones for calling </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>multipliers, using certificates, =
t-shirts, wine=20
bottles, special reports to them who</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>will work 'me' on six bands etc., two =
simultaneous=20
signals</FONT><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> in single op. class, =
clusters, friends=20
help... etc. There are plenty of examples.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Proving of the usage =
of unproper means is=20
always difficult</FONT><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> but it is worth of =
trying. I do=20
wonder why the discussion concerning moral matters in Contesting =
and</FONT><FONT=20
face=3DArial size=3D2> DXing is almost nonexistent.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>In DXing there are groups who are=20
fighting with others: who is first here and there.</FONT><FONT =
face=3DArial size=3D2> Fair comptetition is OK but how about =
stealing=20
'competitors' DX-pedition? That happened to</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>XY1HT and it is also widely known that =
something=20
like that happened in North-Korea etc.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Somebody has done the basic work and =
some others=20
are stealing it.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Sometimes, like in Myanmar, using ARRL =
staff as a=20
partner (as we know ARRL</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>is governing the acceptance of =
DX-peditions).. It=20
is a dirty game and a dark side</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>of DXing. Regular amateur radio =
operator is=20
not interested in what has happened behind the scene -</FONT><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2> he just wants to have a new call in his logbook. =
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It is short term thinking of national =
leagues to=20
allow this to happen. The future of</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>ham radio is depending of our good =
relations with=20
the national/international</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>(like ITU) authorities. We are =
pursuading=20
authorities to give us </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>licenses, special callsigns, more =
bands, more power=20
etc. As many</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>competiting groups are approaching them =
with=20
different competing arguments,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>things have come complicated. =
Especially as=20
arguments are against the ones</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>of the competing group. And this =
happens a lot.=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>At least 95 % of DX-peditions do not =
use faul=20
methods but the 'hottest' are</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>not always organized by fair play =
rules. The=20
question is: what is our attitude</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>towards this dark side?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Best regards,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>OH1VR</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Seppo Sisatto, PhD</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Ojakatu 3 A 18</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>33100 Tampere</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>FINLAND</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tel. +358-50-1372, E-mail: <A=20
href=3D"mailto:seppo.sisatto@kotiposti.net">seppo.sisatto@kotiposti.net</=
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