[CCF] RE: sac 2002 results

Tue Sep 16 23:59:24 EDT 2003

Hi all,

My apologies.

This is just because I was not aware Swedish team did this earlier.

I knew EZT & CER (& co?). had done the SW but my assumption
was wrong regarding how extensive the work was.
Apparently it was 100%.

OH1NOA pointed the issue to me directly right after my
post to CCF reflector, so someone in Finland did know
the work was done to perfection already three years ago !

I have been trying to get volunteers to participate
the logchecking for SAC2003. 
So far, no Finns have volunteered.

I have stated in the Finnish Radioamatoori Magazine
the coverage of our logchecking may be compromised.
Coverage depends on the number of the volunteers to type
the logs in.

We will see in a month's time how this goes.

Congratulations to Jan & co for the first fully-checked
SAC in 2000.

I will use this information to try to inspire some
Finns to volunteer:  If you Swedes have done this earlier,
we Finns must be able to get this done now with at least same
performance level !

Jan has been helping me in arranging the SAC2003 already
now pretty much.
Thank you, Jan !

I have started to refer to Jan's contest service on the web
in my each monthly editorial, Finland has not won all of
the past Nordic battles, not even on 20m battles in international
contests.

I believe the victory of the SAC 2003 is not at all clearly
coming to OH.

Jan, please, if this does not go through to toec, please
do forward.

73,
Jukka OH6LI

> -----Original Message-----
> From: ext SM3CER - 7S3A [mailto:sm3cer at contesting.com]
> Sent: 16 September, 2003 15:04
> To: Klemola Jukka (NMP/Salo); Marko.Siirtola at tt.tampere.fi;
> ccf at contesting.com
> Cc: torvald at eurab.se; jpvest at mail.tele.dk; toec at contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CCF] RE: sac 2002 results
> 
> 
> Hello fellow contesters!
> 
> I don't agree with Jukka about his statement that the SAC logs now
> are checked for the first time in history. The first time was for
> the SAC logs 2000, where ALL logs were checked by using Cabrillo
> and a log checking program made by SM2EZT and myself. We spent
> hundreds of hours to develop the software and I think ALL logs
> were fairly checked that year.
> 
> I'm sorry that LA9HW did not use our software in 2001, so that year
> the logs were not checked properly.
> 
> For 2002 OZ5WQ adopted our software and he has done a tremendous job
> so far. The problem is that he did not get too much help with the
> conversion of electronic logs to Cabrillo and to type the paper logs
> to get a useful Cabrillo log. I offered my help from the very 
> beginning,
> but he choosed to do the work himself. He only let me help him with a
> few logs in the beginning of this year, which he couldn't read in his
> computer.
> 
> Yesterday (Monday 15 September 2003) SM2EZT and I got an 
> e-mail containing
> 48 CW-logs, which OZ5WQ couldn't read in the log checking 
> program. We have
> both worked very hard yesterday and today with those logs to 
> get them OK
> and we have almost fixed all of them. I will send the 
> corrected logs back
> to OZ5WQ later today.
> 
> I also got all the other 447 logs for the CW-part in another 
> e-mail from
> OZ5WQ for information. I have started to look at those logs 
> as well, and
> found many logs with wrong format and QSO information missing. I have
> corrected also a few of those logs, so the log checking program should
> be able to do it's job. There are still some logs that need 
> corrections
> in their Cabrillo format and SM2EZT and I will do our best to 
> help OZ5WQ
> with his problems. I'm very sorry he didn't ask for our help 
> much earlier!
> 
> Jukka/OH6LI has also adopted the log checking software for 
> this year and
> I will send the programs to him later this week. I don't know 
> how Jukka
> will plan and organize the work, but I have a suggestion to 
> make the log
> checking and the presentation of the final results faster 
> than for 2002.
> 
> If Jukka decides to check ALL the logs he will need some help 
> with typing
> the paper logs into Cabrillo. In SAC 2000 there were around 
> 200 paper logs
> and we were 10 persons typing those logs. That work needs to be done
> immediately after the paper log is received. Also all logs 
> received via
> e-mail that needs to be converted to Cabrillo must be processed
> immediately after receipt. You need to check that all information is
> available and if not, send an e-mail back and ask for a new complete
> log. You can't just collect the logs for some months and then 
> start the
> typing and conversions next spring.
> 
> If Jukka needs any help from SM2EZT and myself we are only an 
> e-mail or
> phone call away...
> 
> Now most of the contest software can produce a correct 
> Cabrillo log for
> SAC, so there should be less work this year compared to SAC 
> 2000. There
> should also be less paper logs (I think), so that work should also be
> much easier. It seems TR Log still produces a wrong Cabrillo 
> format for
> SAC, so be very careful to check your Cabrillo log made by 
> TR, before you
> send it to Jukka. (The columns are at the wrong places and the sent
> serial numbers are missing). It's also very important that you use UTC
> in your log. If there are too big differencies in the time when cross
> checking a QSO, there can be problems. It could lead to loss of a QSO.
> 
> A Cabrillo template for SAC can be seen at:
> 
> http://www.sk3bg.se/contest/saccabr.htm
> 
> Read that page carefully and try to understand how a Cabrillo log is
> composed.
> 
> Good luck in this years SAC!
> 
> 73 de Jan/SM3CER
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------
> Jan-Eric Rehn - SM3CER - Contest call: 7S3A
> SSA Contest Manager - SWEDEN
> E-mail: sm3cer at contesting.com - ICQ: 11074897
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> ----------------------------------------------------
> 
> 
> At 09:16 2003-09-16, jukka.klemola at nokia.com wrote:
> >OZ5WQ promises the results soon.
> >Danes have done a massive amount of work.
> >
> >The logs are checked now for the first time in the history of SAC.
> >They still have some problems with logfiles, unfortunately.
> >
> >73,
> >Jukka OH6LI
> >
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