[CCF] [TOEC] Q on SAC rules "ENN ###"

[Mats Strandberg]

I guess I have become too Russian of late :)  Sorry :)

2011/9/13 Kim Östman <kim.ostman at abo.fi>

> **
> Hi,
>
> There are at least two schools of thought on this in serial number
> contests.
>
> The approach of SAC (that I suppose has been in place for
> a long time) is the one also used in WPX, the biggest contest
> of this type, whereas Russian DX Contest gives penalties also
> for mistakes of the other station. Both approaches have their
> pros and cons, depending on whom one asks.
>
> 73
> Kim
>
>
>  ------------------------------
> *From:* Mats Strandberg [mailto:sm6lrr at gmail.com]
> *Sent:* 13. syyskuuta 2011 20:58
> *To:* Kim Östman
> *Cc:* ccf at contesting.com; toec at contesting.com
> *Subject:* Re: [TOEC] [CCF] Q on SAC rules "ENN ###"
>
> Hello Kim!
>
> Thanks for adding the FAQ to the rules section.
>
> Both answers were clear and there is no confusion anymore about what causes
> a penalty.
>
> For this year, it is just to play according to the rules....
>
> HIGH speed, make sure to copy the other station's call, RST and serial
> number, and take a micronap when you send your 599 ### to the other station.
> If your speed was too high, there is a chance that the other station will
> ask for your call or serial number again. If no questions, don´t worry - he
> might have got your call, the report and the serial number ok - or not...
> For you, it does not matter, because no penalties as long as "you are in the
> log".
>
> My only question is... how many letters of my callsign must the opposite
> station have copied correctly for me "to be in the log"?  A few missed
> letters obviously does not matter, as long has he is in my log correctly.
>
> This can not be a proper way to check contest logs in the 21st century,
> when automatic cross-checking of all QSOs is quite possible...
>
> 73 de RA/SM6LRR, Mats
>
>
>
>
>
> 2011/9/13 Kim Östman <kim.ostman at abo.fi>
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I've added a brief "Frequently Asked Questions" part after
>> the official rules at http://www.sactest.net, covering this
>> and another question that was received. I'm copying the
>> text also here below and hoping that it clarifies the matter.
>>
>> 73
>> Kim OH6KZP
>> --------------------
>>
>> Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ)
>>
>> Q: Do special prefixes such as OZ700 or OH25 count as their own
>> multipliers
>> for non-Scandinavians?
>>
>> A: No. The example prefixes count as OZ7 and OH2.
>>
>>
>> Q: How is a log penalized in the logchecking process?
>>
>> A: You lose all points (and the multiplier, if applicable) from a specific
>> QSO by miscopying the other station's callsign ("Busted"), RST, or serial
>> number ("Exchange error"), or by not being in the log of the other station
>> ("Not in log"). However, any multiplier lost in this manner is compensated
>> if there is a later correct QSO that gives the same multiplier. You do not
>> lose points for a copying mistake (call/RST/nr) made by the other station.
>> ---------------------
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: ccf-bounces at contesting.com [mailto:ccf-bounces at contesting.com] On
>> Behalf Of Ilkka Korpela
>> Sent: 12. syyskuuta 2011 20:14
>> To: ccf at contesting.com; toec at contesting.com; oh6kzp at sral.fi
>> Subject: [CCF] Q on SAC rules "ENN ###"
>>
>> Hello all
>>
>>   I have been wondering about the strategy concerning my SAC operating.
>>
>>   Namely, one thing always to consider is your TX speed, and how to abb-
>>   reviate the numbers, to make communication faster.
>>
>>   Now, if you do it OH8PF-style (a concept from the 1980s, early 1990s),
>>   the speed is very fast, extremely fast. This assures high rates.
>>   This strategy is very good, if you are not sanctioned for errors in
>>   the other log.
>>
>>   Now, I expected the rules to say something about the accuracy checking
>>   and about the way (math) score is reduced by incomplete QSOs. They don't
>>   seem to. I know that there is SM2EZT's software to check the Qs, but
>> what
>>   are the (implicit, explicit) logics in it? I.e. the rules on valid QSOs?
>>
>>   We also have the PU! accuracy trophies. They will be based on relative
>> (%)
>>   score reduction. How are Qsos, points and multipliers lost in SM2EZTs
>>   software?
>>
>>   Or am I just, as usual, missing a point/web-page somewhere?
>>
>>   BR ilkka, OH1WZ
>>
>>
>> --
>> Ilkka Korpela
>> http://www.helsinki.fi/~korpela
>>
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