[CCF] Fwd: [CQ-Contest] Don't forget to spot in CQWW SSB

[Jukka Klemola]

On oikein lähettää spotteja.
Moni softa osaa lähettää niitä jopa niin että jos olet määritellyt alussa
osallistumisluokkasi un-assistediksi, kone ei näytä sinulle itsellesi
spotteja.

CQ WW viesti on selkeä ja tarkoitettu kaikille.
Pitäkää hauskaa viikonlopun CQ WW SSB kilpailussa.


73,
Jukka OH6LI


---------- Forwarded message ---------
Lähettäjä: Kenneth Wolff <ken at k1ea.com>
Date: pe 29. lokak. 2021 klo 18.23
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Don't forget to spot in CQWW SSB
To: Paul O'Kane <pokane at ei5di.com>
Cc: CQ Contest <cq-contest at contesting.com>


Automatic spotting by unassisted stations has been around for 30 years when
CT implemented it. CT and almost all modern logging software does not allow
unassisted users to see or use any cluster spots.

Automatic spotting is a good thing, with a few warnings. If you are
unassisted and cheat by using cluster data either from the logger or any
other way, the CQWWCC *will* catch you and there will be consequences.
Whether you are unassisted or not, you may not spot your own call, and
*will* be busted if you do. With some loggers this can happen when you
remove a qso by changing the call to your own. Be careful.

Whether cluster spotting and the resulting packet pileups are good for
contesting is a matter of personal opinion, but there are thousands of
DXers and muliop stations who like them. We want the casual op, DXer or
not, to get on the air and have fun.

Ken, K1EA

On Fri, Oct 29, 2021 at 9:17 AM Paul O'Kane <pokane at ei5di.com> wrote:

> Then, perhaps N4ZR will let us know the "real" reason for K1AR's warning
> about the consequences of unintended cluster access.
>
> With regard to technological innovation, I an opposed to "assisted"
> being considered a single-op category when it's clearly multi-op.
>
> 73,
> Paul EI5DI
>
>
>
>
> On 29/10/2021 02:59, Pete Smith N4ZR wrote:
> > I'd expect nothing less from you, Paul, given your long opposition to
> > all technological innovation - fact is, most cluster software has
> > set/nodx or the equivalent, to make sure no spots come your way when
> > you don't want them .
> >
> > 73, Pete N4ZR
> > Check out the new Reverse Beacon Network
> > web server at<http://beta.reversebeacon.net>.
> > For spots, please use your favorite
> > "retail" DX cluster.
> >
> > On 10/28/2021 5:38 PM, Paul O'Kane wrote:
> >> It's simple - "unassisted" ops risk being DQed for accidental or
> >> unintended cluster access/use.
> >>
> >> 73,
> >> Paul EI5DI
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 28/10/2021 22:10, Pete Smith N4ZR wrote:
> >>> I don't understand, John.  What are you worried about?
> >>>
> >>> 73, Pete N4ZR
> >>> Check out the new Reverse Beacon Network
> >>> web server at<http://beta.reversebeacon.net>.
> >>> For spots, please use your favorite
> >>> "retail" DX cluster.
> >>>
> >>> On 10/28/2021 4:54 PM, John Dorr wrote:
> >>>> The CQWW rules allow for outbound spotting as an unassisted entry.
> >>>> However, my advice is that if you are unassisted to avoid any use
> >>>> of the cluster. You’re only inviting the possibility of unintended
> >>>> access (or worse).
> >>>>
> >>>> 73, John, K1AR
> >>
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