Log checking question
John Connor
ve3rmm at hydra.carleton.ca.
Fri Feb 28 15:00:32 EST 1992
Since there are some folks on here who have done log checking for the
CQ WW Contests, I thought I'd take the opportunity to pose a question
to them (and anyone else who has an opinion).
Here in Canada, we still have a list of "Banned Countries" which
we are not allowed to work, according to the letter of the law. However,
our Department of Communications has publicly stated that they will
not enforce this regulation. As a result, most Canadian DXers totally
ignore this list. (As a bit of background, my understanding of the
origins of this list are that the countries in question have made a
request to the ITU that amateurs of other countries not communicate
with their amateurs. The ITU in turn notifies member countries of these
requests. Those countries have not singled out Canada.)
Now, here is my question. I choose to honor the Banned List, both in
respect of the law, and more importantly, in respect of the wishes of the
administration of the other country. Most Canadians ignore the list.
If a Canadian Contester works a country on the banned list, and
then signs a declaration stating that he has obeyed all the
rules and regulations of his license...what is the reaction of the
Contest Committee to that?
It is, of course, unreasonable to expect the contest committee to know
all of the details of licenses from every country that logs are submitted
from. But it seems to me that a lot of (most?) people don't take that
signed declaration at all seriously. I do.
Comments?
73, John VE3RMM
>From tsf at druhi.ATT.COM Wed Feb 19 20:19:00 1992
From: tsf at druhi.ATT.COM (tsf at druhi.ATT.COM)
Date: Tue Jan 28 19:45:32 2003
Subject: arrl cw
Message-ID: <mailman.53.1043801131.8266.cq-contest at contesting.com>
Where did all those OGs come from? I must not be spending
enough time at the rig these days.
Fantastic conditions! About 180K points, 400+ contacts, 40-10m,
19 hours on (according to ct). Beat my previous record from '89.
I even had a hilarious JA run on 40 Sunday morning. Hilarious
because my 40m dipole is all bent up in my attic along with
the other dipoles, and I run the IC751 barefoot. They must
have their beams pointed right at Denver.
Worked three new countries: ZL7, SV1, and 4S. I suspect the
4S was the embassy in DC or something :-). Maybe I miscopied
the call. No way my n-s dipole gets to 4S land.
As Alan pointed out, I got a lot of CIS logged at better than 200w,
and JA with > 50w on 10m.
Ah, oh yes, I also logged six Canadians. Thank heaven I didn't
dup 'em too.
Great contest. I heard a *lot* of familiar calls...
Tom Fisher N0GOS
>From buettneb at informatik.tu-muenchen.de Thu Feb 20 08:59:16 1992
From: buettneb at informatik.tu-muenchen.de (Buettner)
Date: Tue Jan 28 19:45:32 2003
Subject: Power in ARRL
Message-ID: <92Feb20.085920met.7769 at gshalle3.informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
Hi Contesters,
Until a couple of days ago I did not know that DX stations have
to send "OUTPUT" power in ARRL DX not "INPUT" as it used to be
for many, many years. I guess I should look into the rules from
time to time. I wonder why *THAT* was changed...
To clear all misunderstanding: the power limit in this country
is 750 watts output, so when I sent "5NN KW" I rather did this
as an old habit. It's shorter and easier to copy, too.
73 Ben, DL6RAI
>From arrlhq!rhealy at uhasun.hartford.edu Thu Feb 20 06:34:07 1992
From: arrlhq!rhealy at uhasun.hartford.edu (Rus Healy NJ2L)
Date: Tue Jan 28 19:45:32 2003
Subject: JA power levels in the ARRL CW contest
Message-ID: <4310 at jwh>
Several people have questioned the >50 W JAs on 10 meters in
the ARRL CW contest last weekend. As I understand it, the old
50-W limit on 10 meters was recently upped (to at least 100 W)
by the JA equivalent of the FCC. In fact, Japan's biggest ham
radio magazine, CQ Ham Radio, has been running articles on how
to modify dozens of popular HF rigs so that the put out full
power on 10 meters. (Those originally intended for the JA market
were set up for 50 W output on 10 meters.)
--Rus, NJ2L
>From alan at dsd.es.com Thu Feb 20 07:14:02 1992
From: alan at dsd.es.com (Alan Brubaker)
Date: Tue Jan 28 19:45:32 2003
Subject: ARRL CW
Message-ID: <9202201414.AA20982 at dsd.ES.COM>
>Tom Fisher writes:
>Where did all those OGs come from? I must not be spending
>enough time at the rig these days.
Those were just OHs in disguise. The Finns must be having
some sort of celebration this year, but I do not know the
details. It could have to do with the Olympics (OG; Olympic
Games).
>Fantastic conditions! About 180K points, 400+ contacts, 40-10m,
>19 hours on (according to ct). Beat my previous record from '89.
>I even had a hilarious JA run on 40 Sunday morning. Hilarious
>because my 40m dipole is all bent up in my attic along with
>the other dipoles, and I run the IC751 barefoot. They must
>have their beams pointed right at Denver.
There are still quite a few of us who do not have 40 meter
beams. The sunrise openings into JA can be excellent, and
as you found out, when conditions are this good it does not
take much power or antenna to be heard well. I just barely
beat my last year's score with fewer QSOs than last year.
>Worked three new countries: ZL7, SV1, and 4S. I suspect the
>4S was the embassy in DC or something :-). Maybe I miscopied
>the call. No way my n-s dipole gets to 4S land.
When propagation is this good, you can use a wet string 8^).
>As Alan pointed out, I got a lot of CIS logged at better than 200w,
>and JA with > 50w on 10m.
>Ah, oh yes, I also logged six Canadians. Thank heaven I didn't
>dup 'em too.
I heard lots of W's calling and working VC8?? whatever his
call was in NWT. Some folks just do not understand the rules
very well. I do not argue with them if they call me. I just
work them and carry on, but I log it as a 0 point QSO.
>From reisert at mast.enet.dec.com Thu Feb 20 06:53:24 1992
From: reisert at mast.enet.dec.com (Jim -- MLO3-6/B9 -- DTN 223-5747 20-Feb-1992 0957)
Date: Tue Jan 28 19:45:32 2003
Subject: JA power levels in the ARRL CW contest
Message-ID: <9202201453.AA07211 at enet-gw.pa.dec.com>
At K1VR we worked several JA stations on 10 meters running 500W (yes 5
with two zeros): JA7RHJ, JA8RWU and JH7DNO.
RE: VC8DR
I personally (AD1C) worked him on a couple of bands, since I need Zone 2 for
my CW WAZ award. I wouldn't have called him except that I heard other
statside stations working him, and if he's going to give out stateside QSOs,
why shouldn't I take advantage?
73 - Jim AD1C
>From hurta at ap040.csc.ti.com Thu Feb 20 11:09:01 1992
From: hurta at ap040.csc.ti.com (Dwaine Hurta)
Date: Tue Jan 28 19:45:32 2003
Subject: Mults per minute in CT?
Message-ID: <9202201709.AA10727 at ap040.ti.com>
Previously I posted a weird question:
> Does anyone know what algorithm is used to generate the rate
> meter values on CT?
Wellllll, what I was thinking of (but not typing) was the
"minutes per mult" counter (not rate counter).
Does anyone know what algorithm is used to generate the "minutes
per multiplier" counter in CT?
Does anyone find the "minutes per mult" function useful?
i.e. Does it influence how anyone operates?
Thanks again,
Dwaine
--
Dwaine Hurta, N5HD hurta at ap040.csc.ti.com
Texas Instruments, Dallas, Texas
>From GARLOUGH at TGV.COM Thu Feb 20 09:30:45 1992
From: GARLOUGH at TGV.COM (Trey Garlough)
Date: Tue Jan 28 19:45:32 2003
Subject: Mults per minute in CT?
In-Reply-To: <9202201709.AA10727 at ap040.ti.com>
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> Does anyone find the "minutes per mult" function useful?
> i.e. Does it influence how anyone operates?
>
> Dwaine Hurta, N5HD hurta at ap040.csc.ti.com
When it influences me most is at the end of the contest in a multiop.
Because of the ten minute rule, I hate to QSY to someplace to work
a mult and then be trapped there for nine more minutes not being
able to make any other QSOs, e.g. if NP4A is called out at 2330Z
Sunday on 160. If it happens that I am CQing my brains out on 20
meters, and only working 30 an hour (80/hr if you count dupes :-),
then the "1 mult is worth 9.5 QSOs" message is a nice reminder that
making the trip to 160 is probably worthwhile.
--Trey
>From GARLOUGH at TGV.COM Thu Feb 20 09:35:24 1992
From: GARLOUGH at TGV.COM (Trey Garlough)
Date: Tue Jan 28 19:45:32 2003
Subject: ARRL CW.
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> I heard W0UN a lot. Anyone know how he did?
That was W0UA at the key. He made some incredible score like 1500/120
in a single-band 28 MHz effort. If it's a winner, it will be a new
USA record.
--Trey
>From root%arrlhq.uucp at uhasun.hartford.edu Thu Feb 20 14:57:33 1992
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Subject: Mults per minute in CT?
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Previously I posted a weird question:
> Does anyone know what algorithm is used to generate the rate
> meter values on CT?
Wellllll, what I was thinking of (but not typing) was the
"minutes per mult" counter (not rate counter).
Does anyone know what algorithm is used to generate the "minutes
per multiplier" counter in CT?
Does anyone find the "minutes per mult" function useful?
i.e. Does it influence how anyone operates?
Thanks again,
Dwaine
--
Dwaine Hurta, N5HD hurta at ap040.csc.ti.com
Texas Instruments, Dallas, Texas
>From root%arrlhq.uucp at uhasun.hartford.edu Thu Feb 20 14:57:38 1992
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> Does anyone find the "minutes per mult" function useful?
> i.e. Does it influence how anyone operates?
>
> Dwaine Hurta, N5HD hurta at ap040.csc.ti.com
When it influences me most is at the end of the contest in a multiop.
Because of the ten minute rule, I hate to QSY to someplace to work
a mult and then be trapped there for nine more minutes not being
able to make any other QSOs, e.g. if NP4A is called out at 2330Z
Sunday on 160. If it happens that I am CQing my brains out on 20
meters, and only working 30 an hour (80/hr if you count dupes :-),
then the "1 mult is worth 9.5 QSOs" message is a nice reminder that
making the trip to 160 is probably worthwhile.
--Trey
>From root%arrlhq.uucp at uhasun.hartford.edu Thu Feb 20 14:57:42 1992
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> I heard W0UN a lot. Anyone know how he did?
That was W0UA at the key. He made some incredible score like 1500/120
in a single-band 28 MHz effort. If it's a winner, it will be a new
USA record.
--Trey
>From Ocker at dseg1.csc.ti.com Thu Feb 20 16:55:05 1992
From: Ocker at dseg1.csc.ti.com (Charlie Ocker)
Date: Tue Jan 28 19:45:32 2003
Subject: ARRL DX CW
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Hello, Contesters:
The Texas Instruments (Dallas) ARC station K5OJI competed in the m/s
category. Operators were ND0P, N0IAT, KT5V, N5HD, and KD5PJ. Our
approximate numbers were 1532/360 for 1.65 Meg. I say approximate, as
our 2 computers got out of sync when one of them crashed early Sunday
morning. We are a few q's and mults off, and haven't gotten around to
fixing the log yet. This score is an improvement over 1991's 1664/281
for 1.4 Meg.
Our team used a new strategy this year that worked out well. We had 2
complete KW stations set up and manned the whole 48 hours. One station
had 160, 40, and 15; the other had 80, 20, and 10. We would "bounce"
between stations every 10 minutes or so, longer if one of them had a
good run going. When not on the air, the station would look for mults.
It was also nice to see our new "contest boxes" work. These were relay
switched bandpass filters that went between the rig and amp. The
filters would follow the rig's bandswitch, leaving one less knob to turn
to change bands. With these boxes in line, interference between the 2
stations was virtually nil.
Outside, K5OJI sports two 70' self supporting commercial grade towers,
space about 40' apart. One tower holds a 20+ year old TH6, the other
has a KT34 at 70' and a 402BA at 80'. A few scattered wires completes
the picture. The station is located on site at TI. Lots and lots of
QRN from computers, rf plasma etchers, etc. as well as the usual crud
spewwing forth from industrial sites in general.
Murphy dropped in for a visit early Sunday morning. 40M rf caused the
+24vdc power supply that fed the bpf relays to shutdown. One of our
computers hung in CT three times in a row after hitting F1 and keying CQ
TEST K5OJ (leaving off the "I"). This was also on 40. We kicked 'ol
Murph out after a few hours, only to have him return. Now he caused 15M
rf to shutdown our 2M rig, thereby leaving us "cluster-less". This one
has a reasonable explanation, as our 2M Ringo Ranger just happens to
resonant on 15M. We don't know why these problems appeared on Sunday.
We had a blast.
73,
Charlie Ocker KD5PJ ocker at dseg1.csc.ti.com
Texas Instruments, Dallas
>From george554 at austin.relay.ucm.org Fri Feb 21 00:13:35 1992
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scores
ky5n (10m) 1034 105
nm5m (15m) 1274 110
km5x (160m) 22 20 less than 3 hours operating time.
wb5vzl (80m) 71 35 first night -- 9 qsos 2nd night
so thats about it. too bad i got sick on sat. night.
geoiii wb5vzl
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Subject: Mults per minute in CT?
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Previously I posted a weird question:
> Does anyone know what algorithm is used to generate the rate
> meter values on CT?
Wellllll, what I was thinking of (but not typing) was the
"minutes per mult" counter (not rate counter).
Does anyone know what algorithm is used to generate the "minutes
per multiplier" counter in CT?
Does anyone find the "minutes per mult" function useful?
i.e. Does it influence how anyone operates?
Thanks again,
Dwaine
--
Dwaine Hurta, N5HD hurta at ap040.csc.ti.com
Texas Instruments, Dallas, Texas
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> Does anyone find the "minutes per mult" function useful?
> i.e. Does it influence how anyone operates?
>
> Dwaine Hurta, N5HD hurta at ap040.csc.ti.com
When it influences me most is at the end of the contest in a multiop.
Because of the ten minute rule, I hate to QSY to someplace to work
a mult and then be trapped there for nine more minutes not being
able to make any other QSOs, e.g. if NP4A is called out at 2330Z
Sunday on 160. If it happens that I am CQing my brains out on 20
meters, and only working 30 an hour (80/hr if you count dupes :-),
then the "1 mult is worth 9.5 QSOs" message is a nice reminder that
making the trip to 160 is probably worthwhile.
--Trey
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> I heard W0UN a lot. Anyone know how he did?
That was W0UA at the key. He made some incredible score like 1500/120
in a single-band 28 MHz effort. If it's a winner, it will be a new
USA record.
--Trey
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>From pescatore_jt%ncsd.dnet at gte.com Fri Feb 21 12:30:33 1992
From: pescatore_jt%ncsd.dnet at gte.com (pescatore_jt%ncsd.dnet at gte.com)
Date: Tue Jan 28 19:45:32 2003
Subject: Minutes per mult
Message-ID: <199202211730.AA29726 at harvey.gte.com>
I use the minutes per mult or mults per QSO thing (whatever it says) to
convince myself to keep running UB/YU/IKs when a lot of juicy multipliers
are put out on packet. Especially in the ARRL, if you figure a mult is
worth 10 QSOs or so, if you are going at even a 60 rate, that mult is only
worth 10 minutes of your time. Of course, if you think you can move him
to a few other bands, or in the WW where it might be a double multiplier ...
Now, if I ever go completely digitronic, I'll be able to hit a few keys
in CT and pick up the mult with no time investment.
John EKK
>From freischl at pauke.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de Mon Feb 24 17:32:42 1992
From: freischl at pauke.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de (Joerg Freischlag)
Date: Tue Jan 28 19:45:32 2003
Subject: QTH of WE7K ?
Message-ID: <9202241632.AA15037 at horn.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de>
Does anybody know where WE7K is situated?
I would be interested in the state. I have
the CBA, but it's only an APO address in
S.Francisco...
Thanks - 73 de Joerg, DL1SDH
>From arrlhq!jbloom at uhasun.hartford.edu Mon Feb 24 10:15:24 1992
From: arrlhq!jbloom at uhasun.hartford.edu (Jon Bloom)
Date: Tue Jan 28 19:45:32 2003
Subject: Mail bounces...
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Apologies for the echoed mail from this site. There was some
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>From reisert at mast.enet.dec.com Mon Feb 24 18:26:23 1992
From: reisert at mast.enet.dec.com (Jim -- MLO3-6/B9 -- DTN 223-5747)
Date: Tue Jan 28 19:45:32 2003
Subject: Mults per minute in CT?
Message-ID: <9202250226.AA27982 at enet-gw.pa.dec.com>
Dwaine Hurta wrote,
"Does anyone know what algorithm is used to generate the "minutes
per multiplier" counter in CT?"
Well, here it is from K1EA himself:
Msg #886 From: K1EA Date: 22-Feb 2129Z Subj: Magic Formula
Jim,
This code computes mutiplier worthiness:
rate_win->printf(2, -1, "Mult worth %3.1f minutes",
60.0 * (double(band_info[0][0].qso) / double(total_mults) + 1.0) / rate_100);
band_info[0][0].qso is the total qso count for all bands and all modes.
total_mults is total mults.
rate_100 is the rate over the last 100 qso's
The easy way to look at it is: (Q/M + 1)/rate
Or, in words for Fred [K1VR]:
"A mult is worth Q/M contacts plus itself as a contact. Divide that by
rate to get minutes of worth."
The 10 QSO rate is too volatile a number to use in this calculation. Trust
me, I've tried it.
Personally, I don't use this meter. The final mult and qso tallies are the
important numbers. Use last years Q/M ratio (4 - 6 for single ops) and
say to yourself:
"Self, can I work this mult faster than I can find 5 qso's ?"
- Ken
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
I only work for Digital, they don't pay me enough to speak for them also.
James J. Reisert Internet: reisert at mast.enet.dec.com
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>From Ocker at dseg1.csc.ti.com Thu Feb 27 17:38:23 1992
From: Ocker at dseg1.csc.ti.com (Charlie Ocker)
Date: Tue Jan 28 19:45:32 2003
Subject: Opinions on IC-751A Wanted
Message-ID: <2908222703-13399899 at Starchild>
Our club is considering the purchase of a '751A to replace our aging
TS-830. Primary use will be general operating and contesting.
I realize that there are better rigs out there, but this one meets our
budget constraints. Oh yeah, 99.9% of our contesting is on cw.
We plan on purchasing the FL-52A 500 Hz filter for the 2nd if. What is
it's cw transmit offset? Is it changeable? Comments especially desired
on this rig's performance in this mode.
How about the receiver? Any funky quirks that we should be aware of?
Is the AT-150 outboard autotuner worth the approximately 400 bucks that
the dealers are asking?
Any comments, opinions, love/hate, etc. on the 751A or accessories?
Many thanks in advance.
73,
Charlie Ocker, KD5PJ Ocker at dseg1.csc.ti.com
Texas Instruments (home of K5OJI)
Dallas, Texas
>From GARLOUGH at Choker.TGV.COM Thu Feb 27 15:53:38 1992
From: GARLOUGH at Choker.TGV.COM (Trey Garlough)
Date: Tue Jan 28 19:45:32 2003
Subject: Opinions on IC-751A Wanted
In-Reply-To: <2908222703-13399899 at Starchild>
Message-ID: <699234818.871268.GARLOUGH at Choker.TGV.COM>
> Our club is considering the purchase of a '751A to replace our aging
> TS-830. Primary use will be general operating and contesting.
> Any comments, opinions, love/hate, etc. on the 751A or accessories?
I owned and used an 830 for years and liked it a lot. I have used a
751 once and again and I have never liked it. I can't remember why.
It just didn't sound as good.
When I lived in Austin, our TCC director (K5GM) lived two blocks away and
used to comment that he experienced front-end smash whenever I was on the
air. He had a 751A. I could never tell when he was on. I had an 830.
Call it idiosyncratic. If I were looking to upgrade from an 830, I would
look for a late-model 930.
--Trey
>From george554 at austin.relay.ucm.org Fri Feb 28 08:55:42 1992
From: george554 at austin.relay.ucm.org (george554 at austin.relay.ucm.org)
Date: Tue Jan 28 19:45:32 2003
Subject: No subject
Message-ID: <9202280941.S3383699 at austin.relay.ucm.org>
Does anyone have any contest or other experience with:
kenwood ts850, ts450, ts690(ts450 w/6mtrs)?
what did ya think? ya know all the normal questions.
geoiii
wb5vzl
>From pescatore_jt%ncsd.dnet at gte.com Fri Feb 28 11:31:23 1992
From: pescatore_jt%ncsd.dnet at gte.com (pescatore_jt%ncsd.dnet at gte.com)
Date: Tue Jan 28 19:45:32 2003
Subject: TS 850 and that ilk
Message-ID: <199202281631.AA21655 at harvey.gte.com>
> Does anyone have any contest or other experience with:
> kenwood ts850, ts450, ts690(ts450 w/6mtrs)?
> what did ya think? ya know all the normal questions.
> geoiii
> wb5vzl
I have a TS850 and have used it for full time field day efforts (the primary
reason I bought the radio) and for a 10 hour effort in the ARRL CW a few weeks
ago. I used the 690 once and hated it. On phone it doesn't seem to put out
anywhere near 100W. On CW it is ok, but everything is too cramped and it is
missing somethings I want in a contest radio.
The 850 is a field day radio in a box - just add 12v, antenna, mike, and key,
and voila. It comes with a built-in 3 memory memory keyer (even though manual
makes it sound like you need to buy an option,) and the built in antenna tuner
works well. I put in the DVK option, which gives me a built-in three memory
DVK. It uses the usually Kenwood filters at both IFs, and is plug compatible
with my 830 cables for amps, foot switch, etc.
On CW it is a FB radio, with the quietest receiver I have heard. On SSB, you
have to be careful of overdriving it - with only 12V in the finals, you can't
bang as far into the ALC red-zone before severe distortion.
NEGATIVES:
1. The front panel is about the size of the 830, with a *lot* more buttons. It
is cramped for some controls, particularly the TF-SET for split operations. The
buttons are cheap feeling, and I'm not sure they will last.
2. BIG NEGATIVE - There is no center detent on the RIT control - yech. Since it
is a potentiometer, not an optically encoded deal. there is no CLEAR button and
it is impossible to get back to 0 hz offset. If you haven't gotten spoiled by
940/950 or FT-1000 radios that use "soft" knobs, it doesn't seem much worse
than the 830, but how much would a center detent have cost?
3. It is a 12V radio, which necessitates lugging around 12V. This is FB for FD,
which was my goal. For bring it along to a multi-op, it is a pain.
For a contest radio that will sit in the shack, I don't think the 850 or 450 is
the way to go - you'd be better of with a used (hi S/N) 930 or 940. Stay away
from the 690, K1DQV and others here have had problems and sent theirs back.
Anyone using the FT 990? I really liked the FT-1000.
John WB2EKK
>From pduff at subzero.austin.ibm.com Fri Feb 28 13:26:22 1992
From: pduff at subzero.austin.ibm.com (Phil Duff)
Date: Tue Jan 28 19:45:32 2003
Subject: CT V8 & DVP
Message-ID: <9202281926.AA29351 at subzero.austin.ibm.com>
Anybody know any details of whats new/improved/fixed in the new V8 of CT
to be announced at Dayton? Also, the CT BBS is touting the "DVP" voice
card, I believe also to be announced at Dayton. Anybody have details??
73 - Phil NA4M
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Phil Duff NA4M
IBM PSP Internet: pduff at subzero.austin.ibm.com
Austin, Texas
I speak for myself and not IBM, or anybody else for that matter...
>From reisert at mast.enet.dec.com Fri Feb 28 11:47:11 1992
From: reisert at mast.enet.dec.com (Jim -- MLO3-6/B9 -- DTN 223-5747 28-Feb-1992 1451)
Date: Tue Jan 28 19:45:32 2003
Subject: CT V8 & DVP
Message-ID: <9202281947.AA07506 at enet-gw.pa.dec.com>
------------------Reply to mail dated 28-FEB-1992 14:39:30.30------------------
Phil Duff NA4M, wrote:
>Anybody know any details of whats new/improved/fixed in the new V8 of CT
>to be announced at Dayton? Also, the CT BBS is touting the "DVP" voice
>card, I believe also to be announced at Dayton. Anybody have details??
Well, here it is from the CT BBS:
The K1EA Digital Voice Processor (tm)
Preliminary Information
The DVP(tm) by K1EA is an IBM/PC compatible XT size card which
stores and retrieves audio for amateur radio applications. The DVP
has two distinct modes and uses.
Transmitting Voice
The DVP has a general purpose voice record and playback facility
for contest use. CT, a popular contest program, plays and records
messages through the DVP using function keys. The DVP uses full 12
bit analog to digital and digital to analog converters for a 70 dB
signal-to-noise ratio. This ends questions of audio quality in a
contester's CQ machine.
All data is stored on the host PC's hard drive, permitting a very
large number of long messages. CT will allow the operator to record
a complete set of phonetics, edit those phonetics to remove gaps, and
play back a callsign from the keyboard. In other words, when G3FXB
calls in, the operator types G3FXB and presses the Ins (Insert)
key. In response the CT/DVP combination may play "George Three Fox
X-ray Bravo Five Nine Zone Five." Phone contesting without speaking
is a reality.
Phonetics and common phrases in many languages will be available
from K1EA Software. This permits CT to send callsigns and phrases in
the callers language. For example, when F6BEE tries to steal your
run frequency, you can tell him, very politely, and in flawless
French, that the frequency is in use and that his ancestry is in
question.
Recording Voice or CW
Second, the DVP is connected to the receiver's audio output and
back copies 30 seconds of received audio. When something interesting
is heard, the operator may store the last 5, 10, 15, 20 or 30 seconds
to disk. CT associates the audio record with the qso record allowing
the operator to play back the qso now, or at any time. DX'ers can
collect the actual recorded audio with new countries as they work
them. Record the 3Y telling you how loud you are on 160, or the 3W
marveling at your 75 meter signal! Continuous recording of all
received audio is possible, but expensive in disk space.
Physical Specifications
The DVP is a short (7.5") XT card with a 15 pin male D connector.
A cable is available which plugs into the DVP and is routed to the
transceiver front panel. At the transceiver end, there are microphone
and headphone plugs which go into the radio. There are also
microphone and headphone jacks which accept the existing microphone
and headphone. When the computer is off, the receiver audio and
microphone connections are relay bypassed, permitting normal station
operation.
Hardware Requirements
The DVP requires an IBM/XT compatible computer with 640K of memory
and a hard disk. A ramdisk or disk cache are recommended, but not
required, as the DVP uses the system hard disk heavily.
Software
CT Version 8 will fully support the DVP. A TSR to drive the DVP
will be available to other developers of amateur radio software. This
will allow other programs to employ the DVP and its features. K1EA
software will offer, in late 1992, a stand-alone TSR allowing the
user to hot key DVP commands from within any program.
Availability
The DVP and CT Version 8 will be first available at the Dayton
Hamvention 1992. Inquiries to:
K1EA Software
33 Truell Road
Hollis, NH 03049
603/465-2392
01/11/92
>From 70253.410 at CompuServe.COM Fri Feb 28 15:58:35 1992
From: 70253.410 at CompuServe.COM (Jeff Embry WI2T)
Date: Tue Jan 28 19:45:32 2003
Subject: K1EA and DVP
Message-ID: <920228205834_70253.410_CHC147-1 at CompuServe.COM>
Does anyone have any idea what the price will be for the DVP
-Jeff (WI2T)
>From GARLOUGH at Choker.TGV.COM Fri Feb 28 13:13:12 1992
From: GARLOUGH at Choker.TGV.COM (Trey Garlough)
Date: Tue Jan 28 19:45:32 2003
Subject: K1EA and DVP
In-Reply-To: <920228205834_70253.410_CHC147-1 at CompuServe.COM>
Message-ID: <699311592.447268.GARLOUGH at Choker.TGV.COM>
> Does anyone have any idea what the price will be for the DVP
>
> -Jeff (WI2T)
Seems like the figure $300 comes to mind.
--Trey
>From reisert at mast.enet.dec.com Fri Feb 28 13:27:46 1992
From: reisert at mast.enet.dec.com (Jim -- MLO3-6/B9 -- DTN 223-5747 28-Feb-1992 1631)
Date: Tue Jan 28 19:45:32 2003
Subject: K1EA and DVP
Message-ID: <9202282127.AA17011 at enet-gw.pa.dec.com>
------------------Reply to mail dated 28-FEB-1992 16:27:12.59------------------
>Does anyone have any idea what the price will be for the DVP
I think Ken quoted a price of $299 or something like that. I think it
includes both the DVP and CT 8.xx.
- Jim AD1C
>From steven at ulysses.atmos.colostate.edu Sat Feb 29 08:37:08 1992
From: steven at ulysses.atmos.colostate.edu (Steven London)
Date: Tue Jan 28 19:45:32 2003
Subject: TS-940 woes
Message-ID: <9202291537.AA07980 at ulysses.atmos.colostate.edu>
I am the not-very-proud owner of an early model TS-940S. Not being
afraid to dig into radios, I have fixed most of the quirks that were
present when I bought it - intermittant rx sensitivity, flaky pc board
connectors, horrible phase noise, flaky PLL, etc. There is one last problem I
can't seem to get a handle on. On both transmit and receive, there
is a spur generated +- 1 kHz from the center frequency. The spur
is about 60 dB down from the main signal - that is not enough when
listening to loud signals on a quiet band. As I said, the spur exists
on my xmit signal, as well as being superimposed on received signals.
I seem to recall that early 940's had this problem. Craig, KR6T, from
the Kenwood BBS denies any knowledge of this problem. Anyone remember
the fix for this ?
Thanks,
Kick butt in ARRL Phone !
Steve, N2IC/0
>From ve3rmm at hydra.carleton.ca. Fri Feb 28 15:00:32 1992
From: ve3rmm at hydra.carleton.ca. (John Connor)
Date: Tue Jan 28 19:45:32 2003
Subject: Log checking question
Message-ID: <75 at ve3rmm.ampr.org>
Since there are some folks on here who have done log checking for the
CQ WW Contests, I thought I'd take the opportunity to pose a question
to them (and anyone else who has an opinion).
Here in Canada, we still have a list of "Banned Countries" which
we are not allowed to work, according to the letter of the law. However,
our Department of Communications has publicly stated that they will
not enforce this regulation. As a result, most Canadian DXers totally
ignore this list. (As a bit of background, my understanding of the
origins of this list are that the countries in question have made a
request to the ITU that amateurs of other countries not communicate
with their amateurs. The ITU in turn notifies member countries of these
requests. Those countries have not singled out Canada.)
Now, here is my question. I choose to honor the Banned List, both in
respect of the law, and more importantly, in respect of the wishes of the
administration of the other country. Most Canadians ignore the list.
If a Canadian Contester works a country on the banned list, and
then signs a declaration stating that he has obeyed all the
rules and regulations of his license...what is the reaction of the
Contest Committee to that?
It is, of course, unreasonable to expect the contest committee to know
all of the details of licenses from every country that logs are submitted
from. But it seems to me that a lot of (most?) people don't take that
signed declaration at all seriously. I do.
Comments?
73, John VE3RMM
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