Mon Aug 15 11:45:54 EDT 1994

K3EST writes:

>Tape loops are easily available at Radio shack (1 min loop). Just
>record 8 CQ's and build an interface to your transmitter. We even had
>a volume adjust for the earphones. You can save yourself $200.

I used tape loops for years before I broke down and got a 
sound blaster card for the PC. Either method is a technological
aid, and nothing more.

I think this whole "men don't do packet" is a throw back to some 
purist persuit of an intangible goal to do it without assistance;
a manifestation of the "American self-made man" syndrome.  This 
persuit is moot has no basis in reality.  Technology, in general 
and, packet in particular, is a fact of life. Accept it.
73 de Walt Kornienko  -   K2WK		Internet:  waltk at
DX PacketCluster:  K2WK > W3MM  (FRC) 	Packet: K2WK at N2ERH.NJ.USA.NOAM

>From alan at (Alan Brubaker)  Mon Aug 15 15:56:52 1994
From: alan at (Alan Brubaker) (Alan Brubaker)
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 94 08:56:52 MDT
Subject: WAE CW
Message-ID: <9408151456.AA01214 at dsd.ES.COM>

K6XO, Single Op. (no packet), All bands, High power.

20M  59 QSOs, 22 Mult.
40M   3 QSOs,  3 Mult.

T    62 QSOs, 25 Mult., 58 QTC,   7200 points.

Tough sledding out here in the wild west. No EU visible on 80, 15 or 10
meters. 40 meters was very difficult and 20 was not a whole lot better.
The big stations were weak, and the 150 watt/dipole/vertical guys were
not even there. That's life at the bottom of the sunspot cycle. Get used
to it.

Alan, K6XO

alan at

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>From Dave Hawes <34703 at>  Mon Aug 15 15:57:42 1994
From: Dave Hawes <34703 at> (Dave Hawes)
Date: 15 Aug 94 10:57:42 EDT
Subject: W3ZZ on the loop
Message-ID: <348B4EC3892 at>

As a young operator at W3 Willy John David, I can remember listening to
Gene's voice on the W4 Bravo Victor Victor loops with awe.  They just
sounded SO GOOD.  At Dayton one year, Gene confessed that they were
"enhanced" at the Voice of America, or some such place, but went on to
profess that it wasn't so much of how good the tapes sounded, or even what
was being said, as the fact that it was being said A LOT.

The problem with tapes is that it is relatively hard to make a good one
"on the fly" during a contest.  The fact that you can make as many
different sets of messages as you want, and call them up with a few
keystrokes, is the major selling point for the DVP, and its work-alikes.
The fact that the prerecorded messages will have the same voice as the
"live" operator making the QSO is a bonus.

One year, Alan N3AD, had a Spanish fluent YL student of his record a "very
nice CQ" for Sunday afternoon broadcasting to the south on 10 and 15.  It
was actually counterproductive, since the majority of the respondents came
back to him in rapid Spanish, and when he tried to get a signal report out
of them, they would invariably ask in broken English to speak to the YL!

Dave, N3RD
34703 at

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