Grid Squares in HF Contesting

aa2du at aa2du at
Fri Jul 29 05:06:30 EDT 1994

Walt, I am completely opposed to eliminating the 2 meeting per year requirement. There is no 

reason to belong to a "club" and not make the minimum effort to attend 2 meetings a year. If 

the effort is not worth it to you, then don't join a club at all. What would be the point of 

having a "club" that only exists on paper and never meets in person?

There is more to contesting than turning in a score for your affiliation. Part of the allure 

for me is the social aspect of meeting with and talking to my fellow contester at club 

meetings. It is a great way to learn new things and exchange ideas. If you do away with 

meeting requirements, then you must also accept the fact that club competition will disappear 

as well. If people don't feel they need to make an effort, the whole thing becomes worthless 

and a waste of time altogether. The feeling of achievement that goes  along succeeding in a  

contest is made that much more sweet when you're able to share it with others who understand 

it. By eliminating the opportunities for such activity, you have taken away a great part of 

the fun in contesting. Just think, who will listen to you complain about being beaten in the 

CQWW SSB by a GASSER (insert other phrase of choice here)?

73, J.P.
>K1ZX writes:
>> about using grid squares as basis for defining club territories?
>My opinion on two things germane to his polemic:
>1) Do away with th 175 mi. rule. We are a global community, aren't we.
>2) Do away with the 2 meetings per year rule/quota. If you do #2, then
>   #1 would be moot.
>Anyone else (dis)agree?
>73 de Walt Kornienko  -   K2WK  Internet:  waltk at
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>"My mother was of the sky,      My father was of the earth,
> But I'am of the universe,      And you know what that is worth." - J.Lennon

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TVI???  What TVI???

>From thompsos at (Scott Thompson 974-2215)  Fri Jul 29 06:32:47 1994
From: thompsos at (Scott Thompson 974-2215) (Scott Thompson 974-2215)
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 1994 23:32:47 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: Enough Already!!
Message-ID: <9407290532.AA10389 at sun>

> Certainly not every subject that runs through here is going to interest
> each and every reader, but I have absolutely no doubt that each of us
> picks up a bit of knowledge or insight along the way, with a chuckle
> or two thrown in for fun. 

> 73 de Ken Kopp/K0PP ;-)

 True Ken, but does the word "overkill" mean anything here? After 50
toilet jokes and 150 soup/gas/nitro posts, things become ridiculous.
Geez, we beat subjects to death, then into the next lifetime, and the
next...etc. Way too much to wade through at times.

73, Scott Thompson VE6CGY/VE6MD
thompsos at

>From Craig Ladane Lindsey <cll4 at Ra.MsState.Edu>  Fri Jul 29 06:37:58 1994
From: Craig Ladane Lindsey <cll4 at Ra.MsState.Edu> (Craig Ladane Lindsey)
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 1994 00:37:58 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: identifying cables
Message-ID: <199407290537.AAA25713 at Ra.MsState.Edu>

} If you also get the letters, you can even say things like:
} 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 
} 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 
} U U U U U U U
} P P P P P P P 
} for 20M upper (as in a stack).   They are cloth type and stand up
} fairly well.  
Oh!  I thought that meant SOUP!  So that you could tell which line the SOUP
was going to.

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>From Christof Huebner <chris at>  Fri Jul 29 06:39:27 1994
From: Christof Huebner <chris at> (Christof Huebner)
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 94 07:39:27 +0200
Subject: No subject


>From tree at (Larry Tyree)  Fri Jul 29 06:47:23 1994
From: tree at (Larry Tyree) (Larry Tyree)
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 94 22:47:23 PDT
Subject: Sprint 2 radios
Message-ID: <9407290547.AA14285 at>

N0BSH writes:

> I've never used two radios in a sprint but I'm considering trying it in
> September.  MAYBE it will help me finally break 300!  (guess it wouldn't hurt
> to do these more than once every two years though)

At Visalia, I had a discussion with some N4 station who asked me if two radios 
was what he needed to do so he could break 300 QSOs.  We discussed it and 
came to the conclusion that he still had some work to do before two radios
would be necessary.  

Based upon my personal experience and what I see in the logs, there is maybe
a 10-15 QSO improvement to be had with two radios, if it is done efficiently
and from a place in the country where two bands are active at the same time.

The advantages come from working a few straglers on 20 (one of which might
be a rare mult), knowing when to switch bands to 40 and being able to do it
a little earlier than you might with only one rig (since you will still have
a presence on 20), the same for being able to go to 80 earlier and finally
for picking up some more straglers on 40 in the last hour (one of whom might
be in West Virgina).

So, maybe with the 10-15 QSOs, you would get an extra mult out of it.

Maybe the king of sprints and two radio operation can give us another

Tree N6TR
tree at

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