Re;Aid for the blind contester

Takao Kumagai je1cka at
Tue Jun 14 10:58:15 EDT 1994

Thanks to all who responded to my question.

I received a lots of warm suggestions, informations and tech.
hints for the blind contester. I'll pass all of these informations
to him. He must be stay in contesting with us. I'll write to K4LTA
for his suggestions.

Thanks zillion!

I hope all the contest sponsors/committees will make the same 
guide-line for the blind contesters as CQ WW DX committee did.

Email address will be changed soon as follows!!
Use	<je1cka at>	until Sept. 30 '94
use	<je1cka at>		after June 24  '94
Do not use <je1cka at> please.

>From K9VV - Fred Kleber <0006636049 at>  Mon Jun 13 22:16:00 1994
From: K9VV - Fred Kleber <0006636049 at> (K9VV - Fred Kleber)
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 94 16:16 EST
Subject: Crank-Up Vert/Wrist Rocket
Message-ID: <33940613211633/0006636049PK2EM at>

I've recently moved into a new place and am doing my antenna planning on
paper before proceeding.  A couple of questions for the educated masses:
1)  I'm thinking about using a 89' aluminum crankup for a 160m vertical.
    Do I need to have external ground connections between each section of
    the tower?  If so, any creative methods of accomplishing this?

2)  There are loads of 80'+ trees around and my arm is only good for 807s.
    Are there any department stores which carry wrist rockets?  Maybe 
    these fall into hunting equipment these days with all of the young
    ruffians out there... (like I never was one!)

Direct replies to:
Fred "Fubar", K9VV/4
k9vv at

>From Skelton, Tom" <TSkelton at engineer.clemsonsc.NCR.COM  Sat Jun 11 01:39:00 1994
From: Skelton, Tom" <TSkelton at engineer.clemsonsc.NCR.COM (Skelton, Tom)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 94 17:39:00 PDT
Subject: Covenants, Restrictions
Message-ID: <2DFD5DB6 at admin.ClemsonSC.NCR.COM>

This thread circulated recently, but I have another take I'd like to
solicit direct responses.  What will happen when we have direct
broadcast satellites,and have the opportunity for maybe hundreds
of channels for reception?  It will supposedly only require a small
(3 ft??) dish, but it is nevertheless an 'outdoor satellite antenna.'
Everyone in a CCR - based neighbor will, I would guess, immediately
move to change their restrictions to allow these small antennae.

I ask this because I feel the pressure to move into a possibly-
restricted neighborhood in the next year or so, but hell or high
water I will not give up at least an 'average' (read 70 ft) tower.
I wonder if the move to accept 'small satellite antennae' may make
a moderate tower acceptable????

Thoughts, comments, laughter, flames to:
Tom.Skelton at ClemsonSC.NCR.COM

73, Tom WB4iUX

>From Peter G. Smith" <n4zr at  Tue Jun 14 14:08:49 1994
From: Peter G. Smith" <n4zr at (Peter G. Smith)
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 1994 06:08:49 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Crank-Up Vert/Wrist Rocket
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9406140639.A1397-0100000 at netcom8>

Unless your slingshottery is a lot better than mine, a bow and arrow 
works much better.  I use a cheap fiberglas 35 pound bow with arrows 
weighted at the tip with a few 10-penny nails to counter the drag of the 
monofilament fishing line, fed off a big spool set up end-on to the 
direction of flight (so it goes out like a spinning reel).

73, Pete                                       2003 Sarazen Pl.
n4zr at                                Reston, VA 22091
N4ZR at N4OHE (PacketCluster)

>From Peter G. Smith" <n4zr at  Tue Jun 14 14:24:39 1994
From: Peter G. Smith" <n4zr at (Peter G. Smith)
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 1994 06:24:39 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Covenants, Restrictions
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9406140635.A1397-0100000 at netcom8>

As a denizen of a no-antennas community, my advice is, don't count on it, 
but consider working with the covenant enforcers in that community.

One directly relevant example.  Here in Reston, a few years ago, a 
ham/lawyer moved to town.  He wanted to install a TH-6 on a 70-foot tower 
in a community that, at that time, had a strict no-antennas (not even TV 
antennas) policy.  He went to the covenant people and said, "Look, I want 
to pursue my hobby, and PRB-1 says that local jurisdictions have to make 
a reasonable accommodation to that. (He knew PRB-1 doesn't apply to 
covenants, but who's telling)  Besides, your no-antennas rule also gives 
an unfair advantage to your local cable TV franchise, because we're too 
far from the city to get decent reception on rabbit ears.  I don't want 
to go to court over this, and neither do you, so let's work together."

And it worked.  The covenants people and a local real-estate proker 
worked together to find a house on a cul-de-sac with a wooded background 
higher than his antenna (no skyline problems).  They worked with the 
neighbors and got the ham to agree to paint his entire installation 
grey-brown so it would fade into the background.

Would it have worked without his being a lawyer, and the implied threat 
to the antenna rules on wider grounds than simple pursuit of ham radio?  
I don't know, but Reston now has a very  loosely written antenna policy, 
so this approach may be worth a try.  In any case, it does suggest that 
there may be more than one way to skin the cat.

Good luck, Tom...

73, Pete                                       2003 Sarazen Pl.
n4zr at                                Reston, VA 22091
N4ZR at N4OHE (PacketCluster)

>From Peter G. Smith" <n4zr at  Tue Jun 14 14:26:33 1994
From: Peter G. Smith" <n4zr at (Peter G. Smith)
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 1994 06:26:33 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Covenants, Restrictions
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9406140606.A1397-0100000 at netcom8>

Oh, I forgot to mention the original point -- in Europe the small 
satellite antennas used for DBS are very unobtrusive, roughly 1-meter 
dishes.  There is developmnent work being done in this country on an 
entirely flat phased array antenna for direct satellite broadcasts.  Not 
much help there, I'm afraid.

73, Pete                                       2003 Sarazen Pl.
n4zr at                                Reston, VA 22091
N4ZR at N4OHE (PacketCluster)

>From DFREY" <HARRIS.DFREY at IC1D.HARRIS.COM  Tue Jun 14 14:47:08 1994
Date: 14 Jun 1994 08:47:08 EST
Subject: need k3est e-mail address
Message-ID: <QCY2.DFREY.4531.1994 0614 0847 0847>

Would someone send me the internet address for K3EST.
I've got some mail to forward from EU.

Dick Frey, P.E.  -  K4XU     |  Harris Corp - Broadcast Equip
dfrey at             |    Quincy, Illinois  62301

>From Michael Owen <MOWE at SLUMUS.STLAWU.EDU>  Tue Jun 14 15:14:07 1994
From: Michael Owen <MOWE at SLUMUS.STLAWU.EDU> (Michael Owen)
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 94 10:14:07 EDT
Subject: re. VHF Test Gripe
Message-ID: <14JUN94.11054154.0011.MUSIC at SLUMUS>

>I hope this does not trigger another round of attempts to eliminate or
>further limit the use of FM in VHF contests. To do so would only further

The gripes have nothing to do with FM.  They are mainly directed at
N8FMD for "unsportsmanlike conduct" on SSB/CW.

Michael R. Owen, Ph.D.                        a.k.a.: W9IP
Department of Geology                         Northern Lights Software
St. Lawrence University                       Star Route, Box 60
Canton, NY  13617                             Canton, NY  13617
(315) 379-5975             -  voice  -        (315) 379-0161 (6-9pm)
e-mail: MOWE at SLUMUS            FAX   -        (315) 379-5804

>From drs at (Doug Snowden)  Tue Jun 14 15:36:58 1994
From: drs at (Doug Snowden) (Doug Snowden)
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 1994 10:36:58 -0400
Subject: Covenants, Testrictions
Message-ID: <9406141436.AA151435 at rs2>

I wouldn't count on anything here. No matter what one of those tiny
dishes look like, to a non-ham, most ham antennas are ugly no matter
what they are. Let me put it this way: When I bought my house about 10
years ago, I was the first one in a small deed restricted area. Since
there was not really a homeowners association yet, the property owner
was the association. I had him sign a paper that said that I would be
explicitly able to install a satellite dish and a ham radio tower. Well
I installed a 45 foot tower. Now I doubt it, but I wouldn't be surprised
if they were able to make me take the tower down now. I'm planning on
putting up a fullsize 40m beam - so maybe I'll test the neighborhoods
attitude. My point being that the PRB1 thing doesn't seem to mean 
squat in any instance. 

Doug, N4IJ drs at

>From ken.silverman at atlas.ccmail.AirTouch.COM (ken silverman)  Tue Jun 14 18:26:43 1994
From: ken.silverman at atlas.ccmail.AirTouch.COM (ken silverman) (ken silverman)
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 94 09:26:43 PST
Subject: Crank-Up Vert/Wrist Rocket
Message-ID: <9405147716.AA771611203 at>

I have been using the wrist rocket set up for nearly 17 years.  Putting the 
line over 90' trees is fairly routine (at least with the experience I've 

This is my normal configuration:  wrist rocket, 1 ounce molded sinker - 
elongated type (not the type that has the eyehook made of wire, and not the 
round type)  and 10/12 lb. monofiliment line.

Depending on which type of tree I am trying to put the line in, I will change 
the configuration.  Specifically, if the tree has a lot of sap, or lots of 
branches - a pine tree is a good example, I often go to a 2 ounce sinker, and 
possibly 16 lb line.  This usually shortens up the height you can acheive, but 
will usually guarentee the line comming down, rather than getting hung up on 
sappy branches.

Usually the biggest mistake is to try and reel in the line if you missed your 
mark.  Just let the sinker come to ground, and cut it off.  Then you can reel 
in the line.  If you try and reel in the line with the sinker, there is a high 
chance that it will get wrapped around a branch.  I have lots of monofiliment 
line in my parents trees proving this point.

Cheers, Ken WM2C

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