bill.lumnitzer at paonline.com bill.lumnitzer at paonline.com
Thu Mar 31 16:02:32 EST 1994

I installed the replacement speakers supplied by Heil which were purported
to be the "fix" for the low audio problem when the Pro-Set is plugged into

Bob Heil claims the problem is due to poor circuit design by Yaesu and told me
to short out the two resistors in the stereo audio lines in the FT-1000.  I ran
this by K7JA at Yaesu and after some study, he STRONGLY DISAGREED with this
proposed solution and feels that damage to the output stage could result
if 8-ohm phones were used without the series resistors.

Chip (K7JA) unsuccessfully tried to retrofit some 8-ohm Yaesu replacement
speakers into the Pro-Set but they don't fit.  Apparently, 8-ohm units are too
deep for the Pro-Set case which is probably why Bob Heil won't give a direct
answer as to why he hasen't offered this OBVIOUS fix.  The original Pro-Set
speakers were 300-ohm and the replacements are 30-ohm units.

Chip is meeting with some engineers from Tokyo soon to try to come up with a
real solution to this problem which may turn out to be a circuit change.  If
any kudos is due, it seems Yaesu is more deserving than Heil.  I'm very
impressed that Yaesu is trying their best to solve a problem that isn't even of
their doing!  All Bob Heil had to say to me after I told him what he already
knew - that the "mod" didn't work - was that Yaesu's circuit was all screwed-up

73 de N6CQ/3 Bill (n6cq at paonline.com)

>From gswanson at arrl.org (Glenn Swanson)  Thu Mar 31 20:05:32 1994
From: gswanson at arrl.org (Glenn Swanson) (Glenn Swanson)
Date: Thu, 31 Mar 94 16:05:32 edt
Subject: 'Nother Logging Program
Message-ID: <2449 at gs>

I see in the March 1994 Issue of 'The Canadian Amateur' that EI5DI has a
contest log program called 'Super-Duper' (Ver 5.22 reviewed) that has no
packet port but does have a 10 memory CW keyer.  Review was favorable, and
mentioned "all logging and editing functions use single keys" (unlike CT).
The review is on pages 16 and 17.  They mention a price (1994) of L25,
(>$35 US) and add (US) $3.50 for airmail postage.  I haven't seen this
program and only pass on the following 'FYI': Paul O'Kane, EI5DI
                                              36 Coolkill
                                              Dublin 18 IRELAND
Article mentions that it does: IARU HF,
RSGB contests, ARRL (DX and W/VE), CQWW,
Helvetia contest and King of Spain.  runs on as little as an 8088 at 4 MHz.
Has an on screen band Q,Dupe,Mult window, a zone window, log window, and
QSO per hour (last #, overall and qsos per mult. And time/date of course.
Looks simple but neat.  Just thought I'd pass this on for what its worth.
The magazine (subscription inquiries and correspondence) can be reached at:
P.O. Box 356, Kingston, Ontario K7L 4W2. fone: (613) 634-4184 fax 634-7118
MAGAZINE.  (In fact I strongly encourage you to read only QST! HI). 73!
                              Glenn KB1GW  gswanson at arrl.org

>From Walton L. Stinson" <wstinson at csn.org  Thu Mar 31 21:22:10 1994
From: Walton L. Stinson" <wstinson at csn.org (Walton L. Stinson)
Date: Thu, 31 Mar 1994 14:22:10 -0700 (MST)
Subject: Heil Pro-Set
Message-ID: <Pine.3.05.9403311407.B8411-b100000 at teal>

On Thu, 31 Mar 1994, Eric Gustafson wrote:

> Walt Sez:
> >per bob heil,
> >the 781 is easily driven by any heil headset by putting a 
> >.01 mfd tantalum capacitor in series with the mike line. This blocks
> >the dc voltage normally supplied by the 781 to power icom's
> >condenser mike.  
> >73, walt, w0cp
> Walt,
> Easily driven is in the eye of the beholder.   Yes, we could get enough
> audio to have a SSB QSO.  But it required the mic gain to be fully
> clockwise to be able to do it without shouting.  AND we also got a lot of
> hum & RFI until the cables were replaced with shielded ones.
> 73,  Eric  N7CL
> > 

I suspect that the problem is in your particular rig, or you don't have
the capacitor installed properly .  Icom does not need a mike with gain,
but without the blocking capacitor, the sensitivity of a dynamic mike is
reduced to the level you describe.  at a recent multi-multi at k0rf, we
used heils on ft1000, 781's, and 765's with no problems on any of the
rigs.  at my last multi- single effort, we used several heils with hc4's,
including the new pro-set. all could drive my 781 to the proper alc setting
at 10-11:00 on the mike gain control. yours  is a fixable problem.
73, walt, w0cp

>From WB1HBB  31-Mar-1994 1634 <wrothberg at smoken.enet.dec.com>  Thu Mar 31 21:36:46 1994
From: WB1HBB  31-Mar-1994 1634 <wrothberg at smoken.enet.dec.com> (WB1HBB 31-Mar-1994 1634)
Date: Thu, 31 Mar 94 16:36:46 EST
Subject: 'Testing and Emergencies
Message-ID: <9403312136.AA13229 at us1rmc.bb.dec.com>

        Over the last several months, I have noticed quite a few postings
        that  use  the    justification    of   Emergency  Communications
        preparedness  for  doing <insert  your  favorite  mumble-di-fritz
        This leads me to the  question:    How many of  us  ARE  actually
        engaged in a "formal" Emergency Communications plan/organization.
        Specifically, do you _really_ believe  that contesting has helped
        in that capacity and, if so, how?
        Mail responses directly to me, and  if  there is interest, I will
        post a summary.
        |                             |                                 |
        +                             +  wrothberg at pfloyd.enet.dec.com  +
        |   _    /|                   |                                 |
        +   \'o.O'   Warren Rothberg  +      WB1HBB @ KB4N.NH.USA       +
        |   =(___)=  WB1HBB           |                                 |
        +      U                      +      WB1HBB > K1XX (YCCC)       +
        |                             |                                 |


>From Trey Garlough <GARLOUGH at TGV.COM>  Thu Mar 31 21:56:48 1994
From: Trey Garlough <GARLOUGH at TGV.COM> (Trey Garlough)
Date: Thu, 31 Mar 1994 13:56:48 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Hambase
Message-ID: <765151008.187375.GARLOUGH at TGV.COM>

> Can anyone tell me what happened to cs.buffalo.edu?  Until yesterday, 
> I could get into them to get access to hambase for callsign lookup.
> Now it prompts me for a login and password????
> Any help to gain access would be appreciated.

The callsign server on callsign.cs.buffalo.edu listens on TCP port 2000.
You probably forgot to specify this when you tried it this time, which
means you got the TELNET port (port 23) by default, which would be the
one you would use if you wanted to login to the machine.

Try again and be sure to specify port 2000.  If you are using a unixoid
machine, you would probably type

% telnet callsign.cs.buffalo.edu 2000


>From Joel B Levin <levin at BBN.COM>  Thu Mar 31 22:00:46 1994
From: Joel B Levin <levin at BBN.COM> (Joel B Levin)
Date: Thu, 31 Mar 94 17:00:46 -0500
Subject: Hambase
Message-ID: <22915.765151246 at bbn.com>

|Can anyone tell me what happened to cs.buffalo.edu?  Until yesterday, 
|I could get into them to get access to hambase for callsign lookup.
|Now it prompts me for a login and password????

You forgot the 2000.

As in, 

  telnet cs.buffalo.edu 2000

Regards / JBL

>From Lyndon Nerenberg <lyndon at unbc.edu>  Thu Mar 31 22:03:18 1994
From: Lyndon Nerenberg <lyndon at unbc.edu> (Lyndon Nerenberg)
Date: Thu, 31 Mar 1994 14:03:18 -0800 (PST)
Subject: CZ7Z WPX-SSB Summary
Message-ID: <Pine.3.87.9403311418.A13102-0100000 at unbc.edu>

                       CQ WORLD WIDE WPX CONTEST  1994

      Call: CZ7Z                     Country:  Canada
      Mode: SSB                      Category: Multi Multi


      160        0        0   0.0        0
       80      299     1018   3.4       34
       40      816     3474   4.3      135
       20     1963     4437   2.3      574
       15     1170     2394   2.0      179
       10       82      197   2.4       18

     Totals   4330    11520   2.7      940  =   10,828,800

>From Hodge Thorgerson David Cameron-INBA <hodge at redvax1.dgsca.unam.mx>  Thu Mar 31 22:59:46 1994
From: Hodge Thorgerson David Cameron-INBA <hodge at redvax1.dgsca.unam.mx> (Hodge Thorgerson David Cameron-INBA)
Date: Thu, 31 Mar 1994 16:59:46 -0600 (CST)
Subject: single/multi k6ll #2
Message-ID: <Pine.3.87.9403311646.G25099-0100000 at redvax1.dgsca.unam.mx>

On Wed, 30 Mar 1994, David O. Hachadorian wrote:

> Ever wonder why more and more stations in the sprint fail to send the
> customary "dit-dit" or "TU" before they vacate the frequency? It's because
> they are already on another band working somebody, right after copying your
> serial number, with the computer filling in name and state. For some reason,
> that one really frosts my buns.
If someone is really not acknowledging the end of a QSO because they are busy
setting up another one, and the computer already has the information that
follows the serial number anyway...that frosts my buns too!  It seems to me
a form of rubber clocking, squeezing extra time out of their four hours.

A good idea to counteract this form of "rubber clocking"  is if you feel
someone didn't acknowledge you in good faith, don't keep the QSO in the 
log.  The offender will be penalized by losing the QSO in the log checking
process.  If someone's score is greatly reduced for this reason, I THINK
he or she will take notice.  
But this is touchy. Some of us move much faster than others.  Is it just 
that my vox is slow or is the other guy pushing the envelope on human 
reaction time?  Maybe I wasn't quick enough to hear the acknowledgement.

This all reminds me of those situations where I am working some piss 
weak signal on 80M and am not really sure I heard the other guy get my 
call correct or that he did indeed suppose correctly that I sent 599.  
If I feel pretty sure that we are not making assumptions based on how 
the noise is modulating, I will count the Q and hope that the other guy
does too.  But I recall once being witness at a Multi-Multi where a sked
with a UA0 on 80m was set for 2355Z at the end of CQWW from Calif.  The 
op "thought" he heard the other station "in there" and went on to say
that since it was a sked and he could "hear" something, then our boy on
the other end WAS there and the QSO was good.       Hmmm...

Sometimes we are too slow to hear the other guy "dit-dit".  But if a fine
op like Dave, K6LL, is getting clipped, then something is awry.

Saludos from Mexico.    David  XE1/AA6RX     hodge at redvax1.dgsca.unam.mx

>From modular!eric at cs.arizona.edu (Eric Gustafson)  Thu Mar 31 23:53:18 1994
From: modular!eric at cs.arizona.edu (Eric Gustafson) (Eric Gustafson)
Date: Thu, 31 Mar 94 16:53:18 MST
Subject: Heil Pro-Set
Message-ID: <9403312353.AA11608 at modular>


The rig works fine with the ICOM mic that came with it.  The isolation cap
was indeed in there (and correctly so).  I am now inclined to believe that
we did indeed have a problem in the Heil mic element itself (however, there
were a total of 3 with the same symptoms).  Since the rig isn't mine and
since Ed isn't hot to get it working any longer, I'm not inclined to spend
a lot of time getting it working.  My point was that Heil put Larry (dealer
to Ed) in a very bad position.  You have given more useful help on here
than Heil gave Larry at the time on the phone.

Thanks for your interest.  But I don't think its too useful to continue
this on the reflector.  It wasn't my original intent to do so.  I just
wanted to see if Heil was still giving the same advice to ICOM owners that
Larry claims he got.

73,  Eric  N7CL

>From Mr Michael Robert Vestal <mrvestal at HK.Super.NET>  Sun May  1 10:50:32 1994
From: Mr Michael Robert Vestal <mrvestal at HK.Super.NET> (Mr Michael Robert Vestal)
Date: Sun, 1 May 1994 17:50:32 +0800 (HKT)
Subject: ct-9
Message-ID: <Pine.3.07.9405011732.B8220-8100000 at hk.super.net>


>From Jack Fleming <oolon at eskimo.com>  Sun May  1 16:58:37 1994
From: Jack Fleming <oolon at eskimo.com> (Jack Fleming)
Date: Sun, 1 May 1994 08:58:37 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Newsletter Editors' Mail List
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9404291932.A6702-0100000 at eskimo.com>

   *                                                         *
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Just when you thought your emailbox was totally full - another
reflector!  This notice is to introduce the Amateur Radio
Newsletter Editors' Reflector!

This mail list is designed to allow editors of amateur radio
newsletters to exchange information and ideas.  

The list is ONLY open to newsletter editors!  

I hope this list will become a forum for discussion among
newsletter editors who have similar interests and difficulties -
but previously had few avenues for exchange.

What you should expect to see on the editor reflector:

   Copies of other editors' newsletters in ascii format.

   Articles that you might want to publish in your newsletter 
   (appropriately credited to the author and publication of    
   course!) - again in ascii format.

   Calls for help from editors with newsletter related problems.

   Clever ideas that editors have used successfully.

   Small one or two paragraph items that can be used as "fillers"
   to complete a page.

What you should not expect to see on the editor reflector:

   Requests for QSL routes...

   Discussions of the DXCC eligiblity rules...

   Technical questions regarding forward gain of yagis vs. 

***********************  WARNING!  *****************************

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Jack Fleming, WA0RJY                          oolon at eskimo.com
Seattle, WA                                   DON'T PANIC!

>From Roy Hradilek <73374.2465 at CompuServe.COM>  Sun May  1 18:36:20 1994
From: Roy Hradilek <73374.2465 at CompuServe.COM> (Roy Hradilek)
Date: 01 May 94 13:36:20 EDT
Subject: SOLUTION: SS Reporting
Message-ID: <940501173620_73374.2465_DHS81-1 at CompuServe.COM>

Please excuse  me for adding yet another comment on the reporting
of the SS results, but I think I have a  solution that  will keep
the contest interesting to section oriented competitors.

I think  Tree and  AI7W are  right -  that the  sentiment of this
reflector is  seriously  skewed  in  favor  of  the  serious com-
petitors. Reporting by division decreases the number of 1st place
categories. Whereas we may not feel that a first place  finish in
a lightly  populated section  is a challenge, the guy that enters
the fray with the  intention of  placing first  or second locally
may take it more seriously. We need these guys in the contest.

The divisional  reporting is  a good  idea. However, I do believe
that the new reporting will adversely effect the current trend of
increasing  SS  participation.  Finding  new  stations to work on
Sundays isn't the chore it used to be.

SOLUTION: Continue to report the rankings  by division,  but also
display the  ARRL SECTION  of each  entrant in  a separate column
next to the scores and mults. This way,  we will  all be  able to
determine our standing both by division and by section.

    de Roy, AD5Q, Houston Texas -- 73374.2465 at compuserve.com

>From slay at netcom.com (Sandy Lynch)  Sun May  1 19:25:37 1994
From: slay at netcom.com (Sandy Lynch) (Sandy Lynch)
Date: Sun, 1 May 1994 11:25:37 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Another Solution ?
Message-ID: <199405011825.LAA22684 at netcom.com>

Roy, AD5Q offers an interesting comment on a possible "solution"
for SS results to satisfy the local/section competitor. So, I thought
I'd try my hand at a solution.

I'm not sure if someone else has offered this one yet, but how about
taking up still more space in QST by adding another column with the
relative rank within the section?  To save space, perhaps we could drop
the column for "CLASS" and separate out the classes, as is done currently,
with simply an identifier printed on a single row/line. 

Anyway, perhaps something like this might make things more acceptable for
the competitor at the section level:

Call  Score  QSOs  Mults Hours Class  Section  Rank
K7OQY 16820  145    58    24     A     AZ      15   (meaning 15th in AZ)

Again, to save space in publishing the results, it might be worthwhile
to delete the columns for class and/or hours ...... hmmmm ... betcha
somebody gives me a dozen reasons why that would be a bad idea. Oh well.

73 de Sandy
WA6BXH slay at netcom.com

>From Trey Garlough <GARLOUGH at TGV.COM>  Mon May  2 02:15:38 1994
From: Trey Garlough <GARLOUGH at TGV.COM> (Trey Garlough)
Date: Sun,  1 May 1994 18:15:38 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Frequently Asked Questions list
Message-ID: <767841338.675917.GARLOUGH at TGV.COM>

  CQ-CONTEST at TGV.COM Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) List
		   Revised:  February 9, 1994


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>From robert penneys <penneys at freezer.cns.udel.edu>  Mon May  2 03:16:01 1994
From: robert penneys <penneys at freezer.cns.udel.edu> (robert penneys)
Date: Sun, 1 May 94 22:16:01 EDT
Subject: Tnx fr FB Dayton
Message-ID: <9405020216.AA10860 at freezer.cns.udel.edu>

Great to see you all... special tnx to KA9FOX, WW1M who deserve their
Black Hole....

Did you see the receiver-on-a-card from ComFocus, the SoftWaVE?
Can't wait to try it.

See or get anything exciting??

Almost 11 months to prepare for Sultans of Shwing contest...

CU Bob
Bob Penneys, WN3K   Frankford Radio Club  Internet: penneys at pecan.cns.udel.edu
Work: Ham Radio Outlet (Delaware) (800) 644-4476;  fax (302) 322-8808
Mail at home:  12 East Mill Station Drive   Newark, DE 19711  USA

>From Steven Affens <k3sa at access.digex.net>  Mon May  2 03:46:07 1994
From: Steven Affens <k3sa at access.digex.net> (Steven Affens)
Date: Sun, 1 May 1994 22:46:07 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: SS results..
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9405012209.A22344-0100000 at access3.digex.net>

Your message somes it up very well for me.  I would rather see state by 
state results and awards in the individual states.  

At the risk of starting flames, I'm in the camp that would like to be 
able to spice up sunday afternoon by allowing 1 qso per band with each 
participant.  73 Steve K3SA at k3sa at digex.net

On Fri, 29 Apr 1994 jepsen_st at goedux.enet.dec.com wrote:

>   Personally I'm very disappointed in the new format for the SS results.
> Because the old system presented the results by state, it was easy to
> compare results with friends and neighbors. Under the new format, it's
> difficult to tell who did best in any particular state, and comparing
> results by state is an arduous task. 
>  It's true that the new format more accurately reflects the scoring 
> structure of SS. But, the majority of SS particapants aren't in the contest
> to win. They're often more interested in comparing their results with
> those of friends in their geographic area. 
>  I believe that the long term result of this change will be reduced
> participation in this contest. It's important to remember that the views
> offered on this reflector are the views of serious contesters, not the 
> majority, the casual contest operators.
> Steve..AI7W

>From James Brooks <0005851359 at mcimail.com>  Mon May  2 04:01:00 1994
From: James Brooks <0005851359 at mcimail.com> (James Brooks)
Date: Sun, 1 May 94 22:01 EST
Subject: Dayton
Message-ID: <12940502030121/0005851359NA5EM at mcimail.com>

Thanks to all those who I met at Dayton this weekend...
A real pleasure to meet so many of you. (and a zillion times 
better than shmoozing with the repeater-jockey blimps in the 
arena).  I am still overwhelmed.

Brilliant hospitality suites, decent beer and my only
regret is not making the KA9FOX blowout on Thursday night.

Next year.

Also thanks to KJ4VH and N4OKX who put me up in the Stouffers
and showed me the culinary delights of the Dayton Waffle House
on Sunday morning.  

Oh, and if ANYONE asks my opinion on that damn "caning" thing
again I'll go insane.  EVERYONE asked me about it. EVERYONE!
It was unbelievable. Even in the airport going home! FORGET IT! 

(I'll be back in Singapore by Thursday night if anyone dares to
ask me for an update!)


James  9V1YC/W1

>From dv736 at cleveland.Freenet.Edu (John S. Papay)  Mon May  2 13:09:24 1994
From: dv736 at cleveland.Freenet.Edu (John S. Papay) (John S. Papay)
Date: Mon, 2 May 1994 08:09:24 -0400
Subject: Dayton Pileup
Message-ID: <199405021209.IAA11513 at roo.INS.CWRU.Edu>


Those of you that were at the Dayton Hamvention may have heard
about the pileup that wasn't on the radio.  It occured on I-70
east of I-75 in Huber Heights.  I believe there were about 29
vehicles involved in a freak crash that closed the road for
several hours.  With 35000 or so hams at Dayton, it stands to
reason that a ham would be in the middle of this pileup and there
was.  Well known Dx'er and Contester, Bill W8JGU, and his wife
Darlene were in Car number 11.  They are back home and are ok.

Apparently a car had caught on fire and sent a smoke cloud 
across the road obscuring vision during a rain storm.  The
visibility was poor and you could not see the cloud across the
road until you were upon it.  People just drove into the cloud
and smashed into each other.  Bill was hit in the rear and he
said that the trunk was just big enough to get your hand into
it.  The back seat was up against the front seat.  Windows were
blown out.  Bill suffered only a minor cut, but his wife Darlene
was bruised, but fortunately had no broken bones.  She was
life-flighted to a hospital in a helicopter and Bill went to
the hospital in an ambulance.  A fuel truck was also in the
accident but fortunately didn't collide and didn't explode.
Bill said it was a bad feeling after hitting a vehicle in front
of them and just waiting to be hit from behind.  Their Mercedes
was totalled.  Everybody involved in the accident is expected
to survive their injuries.  

Fortunately this story has a happy ending.  They were both 
wearing their seat belts and that helped them to survive with
only minor injuries.  This is one pileup you didn't want to be
in.  I think we are all hoping for better weather next year.  73

John S. Papay  K8YSE
dv736 at cleveland.freenet.edu

>From ballen at morgan.com (Brooke Allan)  Mon May  2 14:15:29 1994
From: ballen at morgan.com (Brooke Allan) (Brooke Allan)
Date: Mon, 2 May 1994 09:15:29 -0400
Subject: Direct recording of Contests off Air
Message-ID: <9405020915.ZM1993 at is.morgan.com>

I understand that the military has equipment that can record many megahertz
of RF energy off the air for later review. VCRs also can record wide band

Has anyone recorded a contest at the RF level? Wouldn't it be neat
to record all of CQWW 20 Meter for later playback into your receiver so you
could tune around and hear what you missed, what the competition was doing,

Does anyone know if a VCR can be adapted to this task?

I've been living abroad for a while, and mostly away from Ham Radio, so I
apologize if this is an old topic.

73--Brooke Allen, N2BA/7J1AGE

>From H. Ward Silver" <hwardsil at seattleu.edu  Mon May  2 15:05:06 1994
From: H. Ward Silver" <hwardsil at seattleu.edu (H. Ward Silver)
Date: Mon, 2 May 1994 07:05:06 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Direct recording of Contests off Air
Message-ID: <Pine.3.07.9405020705.C28399-a100000 at bach>

Actually, we did have a bit of a go-round on this last year, but...

Technically, it should be possible to mix down all the bits of Ham RF into
the baseband 6MHz (nominal) bandwidth of your ordinary NTSC VCR.  Then
play it back and remix up to the original frequencies.  You'd have to
supply a 30Hz frame sync signal to give the speed control servo loop
something to lock onto.  (It would have to be MIGHTY stable to playback a
10-meter signal with any kind of acceptable stability.)  Another pair of
issues are noise floor (much higher on tape than a good receiver) and
dynamic range (much lower on tape).  The military doesn't usually get into
weak-signal work, nor do they have to pull out the 5-watter in kilowatt alley.

Just think, the home shopping network, or better yet, K-Tel Records, could
sell us the 1990 CQ WW Contest on videotape or laser disc!  Call now,
operators are standing by! (sounds like a multi-multi, doesn't it?)

73, Ward N0AX

>From jholly at hposl42.cup.hp.com (Jim Hollenback)  Mon May  2 16:05:34 1994
From: jholly at hposl42.cup.hp.com (Jim Hollenback) (Jim Hollenback)
Date: Mon, 2 May 1994 08:05:34 -0700
Subject: YASSC
Message-ID: <9405020805.ZM6937 at hpwsmjh.cup.hp.com>

Been reading the comments on SS reporting. I like the writeup and the
regional boxes. I am somewhat confused about the issue with the section/state
listing. All the information is there, you just have to spend a couple
minutes rearranging the listing. All the division listings include the 
stations section. Granted it is not neat and easy to see if there were
listings by sections, but you can still get the info. I would agree that
making the certificate winners bold or * might be worthwhile. 

jholly at cup.hp.com

>From we9v at thetech.com (Chad Kurszewski)  Mon May  2 16:05:13 1994
From: we9v at thetech.com (Chad Kurszewski) (Chad Kurszewski)
Date: Mon, 02 May 94 08:05:13 PDT
Subject: Dayton
Message-ID: <eFePLc1w165w at thetech.com>

James Brooks <0005851359 at mcimail.com> writes:

> Brilliant hospitality suites, decent beer and my only
> regret is not making the KA9FOX blowout on Thursday night.
Let us not forget the Thursday nite blowout was sponsored by
The Sultan's of Shwing

A tiny chapter of the Society of Midwest Contestors

It was great to meet all of you contesters and Dx'ers at our Party Room.  
Sorry about running out of beer (I think it was between 1-2am), but we 
did not expect such a turnout.  We will know better for the
"2nd Annual Sultans of Shwing Party Room"

73 from the Sultans of Shwing

Chad WE9V, Scott KA9FOX, and Mike N0BSH

Chad, WE9V     we9v at thetech.com

we9v at thetech.com (Chad Kurszewski)
The Tech BBS (408) 279-7199 San Jose, CA

>From bob (b.s.) lukaszewski" <rlukas at bnr.ca  Mon May  2 15:48:00 1994
From: bob (b.s.) lukaszewski" <rlukas at bnr.ca (bob (b.s.) lukaszewski)
Date: Mon, 2 May 1994 10:48:00 -0400
Subject: UN-subscribe
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>From Jay Kesterson K0GU x6826 <jayk at bits.fc.hp.com>  Mon May  2 16:50:19 1994
From: Jay Kesterson K0GU x6826 <jayk at bits.fc.hp.com> (Jay Kesterson K0GU x6826)
Date: Mon, 2 May 94 9:50:19 MDT
Subject: SS stuff
Message-ID: <9405021550.AA26373 at bits.fc.hp.com>

> I am somewhat confused about the issue with the section/state listing.
> Jim, WA6SDM

The concern some of us have is that the little guys score is buried in the
listings. Instead of being one of a few scores in his section s/he is one
of many in the division. 

> > Finally, I think people who broke into the top ten on CW from the black
> > hole should of received more attention,

> Does that mean in SS the East Coast should get more attention?
> 73 Barry

With the recent SS scores of K3UA at K3LR, KM9P at N4RJ and W2GD maybe the
eastern guns should give SS a try again?

73, Jay K0GU                    jayk at fc.hp.com

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