QST is becoming a rag

Tue Apr 25 13:34:47 EDT 1995

Has anyone noticed how cheap and disgusting qst has become. First it was
a move to cheaper paper (close to tissue paper). Next, came six pages
of ads up front in qst (now it is 8 or 12 pages). Then to really make it
ratty, they plaster all sort of crap on the cover simimlar to supermarket
tabloids.  Finally, to really jam it up the members ass, they eliminate
the plastic wrapper and stick the label right to the front of the magazine.

Sometime change is good, but NOT in this case!!!  It sucks.  QST nolonger
looks like a professional Journal.  It now looks like an amateur journal
(tabloid is a better word)

ARRL, are you listening???

Len WF2V

>From oo7 at astro.as.utexas.edu (Derek Wills)  Tue Apr 25 18:52:40 1995
From: oo7 at astro.as.utexas.edu (Derek Wills) (Derek Wills)
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 1995 12:52:40 -0500
Subject: QST is becoming a rag

	Has anyone noticed how cheap and disgusting qst has become. First it 
        was a move to cheaper paper (close to tissue paper). Next, came six 
        pages of ads up front in qst (now it is 8 or 12 pages). Then to really 
        make it ratty, they plaster all sort of crap on the cover simimlar to 
        supermarket tabloids.  Finally, ...   [etc]

Yeah, and then they have the nerve to charge about 1 cent for each page!
Well, OK, I use the ARRL bureau and many of their other services, so it
might cost me about one-fifth of a cent per page, but still, you'd think
they would hand deliver them to each of their members for that price.  
That way they wouldn't get fingerprints on them from the postal workers 
and stuff.  I bet lots of people breathe on those mags before we get them - 
blecchhh!  And they have a lot of stuff in them about contests, who needs 
this rag?  I bet there's a spelling mistake somewhere in mine, too!

Derek AA5BT, G3NMX
oo7 at astro.as.utexas.edu

>From Lau, Zack,  KH6CP" <zlau at arrl.org  Tue Apr 25 18:58:00 1995
From: Lau, Zack,  KH6CP" <zlau at arrl.org (Lau, Zack,  KH6CP)
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 95 13:58:00 EDT
Subject: ARRL contest scores online
Message-ID: <2F9D3868 at arrl.org>

Len, WF2V wrote:
>
>Ahhh, but they do have an 800 number ---> it is used by their VEC and
>probably others.  I dont have it right here, but it is available...

Yes, the ARRL spends quite a bit of money on 1-800-32-NEW HAM for
prospective amateurs.   However, the cost tends to be offset by the
publications these people buy....

 --Zack KH6CP/1

>From Tony Brock-Fisher <fisher at hp-and.an.hp.com>  Tue Apr 25 19:19:10 1995
From: Tony Brock-Fisher <fisher at hp-and.an.hp.com> (Tony Brock-Fisher)
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 1995 14:19:10 -0400
Subject: QST - still better than the rest
Message-ID: <9504251819.AA02820 at hp-and.an.hp.com>

QST may be becoming a rag, but in the meantime it still offers a few items
of real interest to hams. Like product reviews that actually have 
measurements. Not like CQ, where every review is made to look real
technical by reprinting the owner's manual, and the bottom line reads
something like " while no measurements were made, the radio sounded
real good on the air".

Whats the matter with a little color and pizzazz? We wouldn't
be able to attract much new blood to the hobby if QST always looked
like NCJ! If you like journals, read NCJ and QEX. If you want
a nice attractive magazine, read QST. At least the pictures look
nice in color.

Rather than bashing QST on non-issues like the bag, why don't
you ask them something interesting, like why didn't they
print AG6K's rebuttal?

-Tony, K1KP, fisher at hp-and.an.hp.com

>From N6MM/W6BAB" <HDHETLAND at paccd.cc.ca.us  Tue Apr 25 20:23:14 1995
From: N6MM/W6BAB" <HDHETLAND at paccd.cc.ca.us (N6MM/W6BAB)
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 1995 11:23:14 PST
Subject: QST is becoming a rag
Message-ID: <7C073919F8 at manage.paccd.cc.ca.us>

Len, WF2V, writes:

> Has anyone noticed how cheap and disgusting qst has become.  ...
> a move to cheaper paper (close to tissue paper). Next, came six pages
> of ads up front in qst (now it is 8 or 12 pages). Then to really make it
> ratty, they plaster all sort of crap on the cover simimlar to supermarket
> tabloids.  Finally, to really jam it up the members ass, they eliminate
> the plastic wrapper and stick the label right to the front of the magazine.
> 
> Sometime change is good, but NOT in this case!!!  It sucks.  QST nolonger
> looks like a professional Journal.  It now looks like an amateur journal
> (tabloid is a better word)
> 
> ARRL, are you listening???
> 
> Len WF2V
>
Yes, and to rub in the insult of promotions printed all over the 
front cover there are no page references on the cover, thus 
forcing the reader to search through the pages of advertising for the 
table of contents.  Once at the table of contents the title under 
which the item of interest is listed differs sufficiently from that 
used on the cover.  Often one has to scan the entire table of 
contests and guess as to which article to look up.  What a pain.

Isn't it great having your QST dog-eared upon arrival.  Gives it that 
doctor's office appearance.  My April issue had the first six pages 
ripped.  Yes, "ARRL, are you listening???"

Harvey, N6MM

>From Lau, Zack,  KH6CP" <zlau at arrl.org  Tue Apr 25 19:24:00 1995
From: Lau, Zack,  KH6CP" <zlau at arrl.org (Lau, Zack,  KH6CP)
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 95 14:24:00 EDT
Subject: CQ Contest Certificates
Message-ID: <2F9D3E6F at arrl.org>

How long you wait depends on who is responsible for
sending out contest certificates.  Some volunteers
are fantastic--you couldn't get better service if you
paid them.   Others, well...

I just got my Fall 1994 QRP ARCI certificate--along
with 5 others dating back to Spring 1992....

Unfortunately, the old contest manager lost interest,
and the new guy had to spend a lot of time catching
up....400 certificates worth!

BTW, I store my 8.5 inch by 11 inch certificates in mylar
pockets--they don't have plasticizers that stick to the
printing used on most certificates.

25 for $24 postpaid Leonard H. Hartman
          P.O. Box 36006
          Louisville KY 40233
          Phone 502-451-0317
          FAX 502-459-8538

His main business is specialized  books for stamp collectors...
Most of you don't want his catalogs..

Anyone else have a source for archival mylar--maybe even
big enough for those CQ Certificates?

Zack KH6CP/1  zlau at arrl.org

who modified his msmail.ini file so he  can read mail headers....
StripGateway Headers=0

>From Larry Tyree <tree at cmicro.com>  Tue Apr 25 19:28:47 1995
From: Larry Tyree <tree at cmicro.com> (Larry Tyree)
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 1995 11:28:47 -0700
Subject: QST
Message-ID: <199504251828.LAA07752 at cascade.cmicro.com>

At the risk of squashing this thread before everyone has had their
say, this is not a CONTEST subject.  It sounds more like the QST
delivery thread a couple years ago.

Tree N6TR
tree at cmicro.com

>From Steven Affens <k3sa at access.digex.net>  Tue Apr 25 19:30:50 1995
From: Steven Affens <k3sa at access.digex.net> (Steven Affens)
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 1995 14:30:50 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Dayton Weather Tuesday
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.950425142959.14006E-100000 at access5.digex.net>

Steven C. Affens
K3SA at ACCESS.DIGEX.NET

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Date: Tue, 25 Apr 1995 14:23:35 -0400
From: Steven Affens <k3sa at access5.digex.net>
To: k3sa at access.digex.net
Subject: Dayton

weather conditions at 10 am edt on 25 apr 95 for dayton, oh.
temp(f)    humidity(%)    wind(mph)    pressure(in)    weather

   47          70%         west at 18       29.99      mostly cloudy

champaign-clark-darke-greene-miami-montgomery-preble-
including the cities of...springfield...dayton
1035 am edt tue apr 25 1995

 this afternoon...mostly cloudy...becoming mostly sunny by mid
afternoon. high in the upper 50s. west winds 10 to 20 mph.
 tonight...partly cloudy.  low in the lower 40s.  south winds around 10
mph.
 wednesday...partly cloudy and warmer.   high near 70.

                 ***********************
                 state extended forecast
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 extended forecast...
 thursday...scattered showers and thunderstorms.  lows 45 to 50.  highs
from the upper 50s extreme north to the upper 60s south.
 friday...partly cloudy and cooler.  lows 35 to 40.  high from near
50 north to the upper 50s south.
 saturday...partly cloudy.  lows 35 to 40.  highs from the upper 50s
north to mid 60s south.
the national weather service information is provided by the university of
michigan weather underground project and the national science foundation-funded
unidata project, from a data feed broadcast by alden/zephyr electronics, inc.
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