New Radios

K8DO at K8DO at
Sat Aug 19 11:23:39 EDT 1995

Further suggestions on things to remove from the front of radios....
Well, for remote control, they could remove everything, and replace them with
a twisted pair jack.... Then the software and your trackball will control the
radio, which will be in the equipment shack at the base of the monster tower
well outside of town, while you are comfortably, feet up, in your den...


>From wrt at (Bill Turner  W7LZP)  Sat Aug 19 16:13:19 1995
From: wrt at (Bill Turner  W7LZP) (Bill Turner  W7LZP)
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 1995 15:13:19 +0000
Subject: New Radios
Message-ID: <199508191513.IAA24876 at>

At 10:47 PM 8/18/95 -0500, Jeff Singer wrote:
>   As long as they're bringing out this new generation of radios, why 

>don't they do something really elegant: Eliminate half the buttons, 

>switches, knobs, etc.
>   My TS-850 is typical of current radios. It has FOUR things that 

>control the RF gain [rf gain, AIP, and two attenuator buttons]. Does 

>ANYONE ever use the scan function on a radio? I suppose I might try the 

>Woodpecker noise filter if the Woodpecker ever returns. The QST review of 

>the TS-850 raved about the CW reverse on the 850; I think I used it once! 
>   Then there's that nifty tone control and the light dimmer. I guess if 

>Heather Lockler ever wants to sit on my lap during the CQWW, I can use 

>those to create the right ambiance.
>   Any more ideas for things to REMOVE from radios?

One man's meat, another man's poison....

I do use the scan function on my TS-850S when monitoring six meters.  I have
it scan the US calling freq, the international calling freq, some beacons
and a few other freqs.  It's handy when I'm working on some other project to
have it running in the background.  When I'm actively operating, I don't use it.

I also use the reverse button at times, but only for RTTY.  Every now and
then someone will get their mark/space reversed, and that's the only way one
can get their attention to tell them what the problem is.  Otherwise they
just go on and on, never knowing why no one answers.  Not a major use
obviously, but it has come in handy several times -- most recently during
the SARTG contest yesterday.

On the other things I agree completely.  Heather was here the other day, and
she agrees too.

73, Bill  W7LZP
wrt at

>From H. L. Serra" <hlserra at  Sat Aug 19 16:40:46 1995
From: H. L. Serra" <hlserra at (H. L. Serra)
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 1995 08:40:46 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: New Radios
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9508190813.A18350-0100000 at>

On Fri, 18 Aug 1995, Jeff Singer wrote:

>    Any more ideas for things to REMOVE from radios?

Crappy on-board keyers on which you cannot adjust weighting, 
dot-dash ratio, spacing, or PTT lead-time delay;

Advertisements for the startling innovation of a second key jack so you 
can plug the CT key line AND your outboard keyer in at the same time, 
without having to purchase a tacky two dollar Radio Shack Y-connector to do 
the same thing with one key jack;

All those incomprehensible incremental controls on Kenwood rigs for AIP, 
slope high and low cut which, if you accidentally touch during a contest, 
invert SSB signals to incomprehensibility;

"...These are a few of my favorite things!" (with apologies to Julie 

73, Larry N6AZE

>From wrt at (Bill Turner  W7LZP)  Sat Aug 19 16:43:08 1995
From: wrt at (Bill Turner  W7LZP) (Bill Turner  W7LZP)
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 1995 15:43:08 +0000
Subject: DSP power
Message-ID: <199508191543.IAA28943 at>

For those of us among the unwashed, could someone explain the advantages of
IF DSP'ing vs audio DSP'ing?  I'm picturing the noise removal, heterodyne
filtering, etc, just being done at a higher frequency.  After all, the IF
signal is exactly the same as the audio signal but elevated in frequency,
right?  All the same stuff is there.  It would seem the only difference
would be the AGC action, which might be important in the presence of strong
signals.  Anything else?

P.S.  this IS contest-related, honest!  I'm a little paranoid after getting
kicked off the DX reflector for posting something I thought was DX-related
but the Big Guy didn't.

73, Bill  W7LZP
wrt at

>From James White <0006492564 at>  Sat Aug 19 16:46:00 1995
From: James White <0006492564 at> (James White)
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 95 10:46 EST
Subject: No subject
Message-ID: <04950819154640/0006492564PK2EM at MCIMAIL.COM>

Subject: RE: I USE THE SCAN, man!!!!

...once again the scan feature on my trusty ole TS430 gets belittled, first
it was K5ZD who a coupla years ago who put down my scan usage while I BS'd
with him at Dayton, and now K0OD - here we go again. the way, nice photo Randall, is a centerfold next? (Hi Able Abell) But
Randy, get a desk. If your desk were deeper you could comfortably rest your
arms on it - looks to me like you don't have enough depth in front of the
rig for half a forearm! I know.....your lack of comfort probably leads to
your routine high scoring #1 and #2 finishes.

NOW: the rest of the story....


....The coffee is backing up and you can't take it any longer, gotta pee,
ya' know - #1.....  

....the bathroom is far enough away from the rig you cannot pee and copy
with the ' do you make use of this cans off lost operating time


Put the 10 meter (assuming its daytime, and its that AM coffee backing up)
frequencies of 28.000 to say 28.050 into the scan bank....pull the headphone
plug, turn the volume (now on the speaker) up to the max...hit scan...and
run to pee!  Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, made it.

Whilst one pees and gains that blessed reief one also learns if there are
any signals on ten meters...perhaps it is only W3LPL and N2RM calling
endless CQs...but if it is an exchange you hear while seeking relief it
might be worth your following up on, post peeus contestus, of course.

I have done this more than once (but I am often still told I am full of....)
and it makes that pee time have a productivity side...

DON'T TAKE MY SCAN AWAY FROM ME....I'll suffer from peeus contestus

....While this is a lighthearted post, I DO use this technique, honest - it

....Note: when using scan in the can mode towards the end of the contest
that unique to contesting phenomenon of pulling c.w. out of the toilet's
ringing is contesters know, that phenomenon of being able to
pull out an entire exchange from the ringing sounds of the water re-filling
the tank!!!! The worst part is finding yourself hesitating for a second
because you missed somethin' and need a fill!
                                Jim   zx       k1zx at

...when I tell you that you were piss weak on ten, you'll know when I heard
you :-)

Forwarded Message
From: Jeff Singer, K0OD

   As long as they're bringing out this new generation of radios, why 
don't they do something really elegant: Eliminate half the buttons, 
switches, knobs, etc.
   My TS-850 is typical of current radios. Does ANYONE ever use the scan
function on a radio? 

>From becker at (Tony and Celia Becker)  Sat Aug 19 14:03:20 1995
From: becker at (Tony and Celia Becker) (Tony and Celia Becker)
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 1995 09:03:20 -0400
Subject: things to REMOVE from radios
Message-ID: <199508191606.JAA20282 at>

Jeff, K0OD, asks:
>Any more ideas for things to REMOVE from radios?
1.  The top 50% of the MIC GAIN,  RF PROC., and KEYER SPEED controls

2.  The 14.230 - 14.235 portion of the FREQUENCY control.

3.  The 10m position on the bandswitch.


AE=D8M, Tony Becker - becker at - Silicon Valley, U.S.A.

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