valid exchanges, etc

Fri Feb 24 19:19:35 EST 1995

When I worked V44KAO I asked for his power and he sent it to me.
Somehow I didn't think he was running 6K (BK).  But I also heard a
few other stations sending 5NN K.  Within the same frame of 
thought of this discussion one could conceiveably argue whether
the station was saying (implying?) 599 kilowatt or 599 go ahead!
The difference, as I see it, is in knowing who is at the other end.
Most of us probably know that P49V is "in the contest."   Do we
really know the intent of V44KAO (a resident of St Kitts?)  Was he
"in the contest?"  If so, then he probably has not followed the 
rules.  Was he just handing out Qs, only making "contest Qs" when
asked?  If so, then he did not break any rules.

I first heard ENN a couple years ago or so and I just figured it
was only a matter of time, having already heard the 5 being 
shortened to H before, and even S in some instances.  

Here's a twist on that:  When I was at PJ8Z for CQ WW SSB I would presume
that I hardly ever said "five-nine 8."  It was more likely 
along the lines of "fi-nine 8."  

So is it possible that this was not a valid exchange??   :-)  :-)

73  Mike  N0BSH
n0bsh at aol.com

>From k2mm at MasPar.COM (John Zapisek K2MM)  Sat Feb 25 01:37:14 1995
From: k2mm at MasPar.COM (John Zapisek K2MM) (John Zapisek K2MM)
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 95 17:37:14 PST
Subject: An Exchange Student?
Message-ID: <9502250137.AA20884 at greylock.local>

I thought it'd be useful to see what the rules actually say, so I FTP'd
/pub/hamradio/arrl/infoserver/msd/dx.rls from oak.oakland.edu.  Here are
some relevant excerpts:

> 6) Contest Exchange:  (B) DX stations send signal report and power
> (three-digit number indicating approximate transmitter output power). 
> 
> 8) Miscellaneous:  (A) Call signs and exchange information must be
> received and logged by each station for a complete QSO. 
> 
> 9) Reporting:  (B) Logs must indicate times in UTC, bands, mode, calls,
> complete exchange sent, complete exchange received and QSO points.

Rule 6B requires a signal report, but not necessarily in RS(T) format.  I
think "NN" could be considered a signal report.  So could "awesome signal",
"five by loud", or "dead full clobbering"!

Re rule 8A:  I looked but didn't find anything about sending exchange info,
just receiving and logging.  Also didn't find anything about a penalty for a
QSO not being "complete".  Hmmm.

Rule 9B requires that you log what you sent.  If the V44 didn't send his
power but his logs say he did, has he falsified his log?

Duh.  --John/K2MM

>From George Cook <george at epix.net>  Sat Feb 25 01:59:24 1995
From: George Cook <george at epix.net> (George Cook)
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 1995 20:59:24 -0500 (EST)
Subject: K3ANS score ARRL CW DX
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.950224205801.24234B-100000 at grape.epix.net>

On Wed, 22 Feb 1995 fish at crl.com wrote:

> George,
> 
> Would you mind giving us a breakdown of your station?
> 
> You guys beat me in every pile up from N4RJ.
> 
> 73
> 
> ---
> Bill Fisher, KM9P   -    Concentric Systems, Inc.  

Msg #3683  From: K3ANS  Date: 24-Feb 0156Z  Subj: Re: A Question Arises

Breakdown for ARRL CW DX Contest:

160 meters:  Antennas:  Inverted V at 65' and inverted ground plane at 
70' 
level on 105' tower with top loading and 8 active radials.
80 meters: Antennas: 3 element wire yagi aimed north east to Europe and 
over 
the pole to eastern Asia.  Inverted ground plane at 50' level on 80' tower
with top loading and 8 active radials, but 3.5:1 SWR, so not effective yet.
Center fed 135' zepp at 50' high.
40 meters: Telerex 40M329 3 element yagi at 108'.  Center fed zepp (described
above). 3 element wire yagi aimed north east to Europe and over the pole to
eastern Asia, suspended under the 80 meter wire yagi.

20 meters: Hygain 205CA, 5 element yagi at 117' high, sharing same 
rotator and
mast as the 40 meter Telerex.

15 meters: Hygain 155CA, 5 element yagi at 90' high.

10 meters: home brew W2PV design, 6 element yagi at 80' high, sharing same
rotator (broken) and mast as the 15 meter yagi.
10, 15, 20 meter tribander, Mosley TA-33 yagi.

Equipment:
Station 1:  Icom IC-761, Ameritron AL-1200.
Station 2:  Ten Tec Omni VI, Ten Tec Titan.
Station 3:  Icom IC-765, Heath SB-220.
Station 4:  Icom IC-761, Drake L-4B.
Station 5:  Icom IC-737, Drake L-4B with bad finals, Ameritron AL-811 
with 
good finals.
5 computers in K1EA CT 9.20 network.

Glad to share the info.  Of course this was temporary set up as the operators
brought over their rigs.  What was your station?  We heard too much of 
you 
too.

73, Bill, K3ANS >>

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* George Cook   AA3JU  Bangor, PA  FN21         *
* george at peach.epix.net  AA3JU at N3IQD.EPA.USA.NA *
*************************************************

>From scott at 6.microbbs.us.com (Scott Lieberman)  Sat Feb 25 01:45:24 1995
From: scott at 6.microbbs.us.com (Scott Lieberman) (Scott Lieberman)
Date: 24 Feb 95 17:45:24 -0800
Subject: He sends QRP R5. Now how do you log 1/2 watt?
Message-ID: <4b4_9502241804 at microbbs.us.com>

 W> He sends QRP R5. Now how do you log a 1/2 watt?
 W> I put down 1, but really now, what is he supposed
 W> to send when he's running flea power?

I remember working an ARRL CW DX contest from New England (I think it was at
W1RR), and working a JA who gave "200mw" as his power.
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>From Frank Conte <frank at gti.net>  Sat Feb 25 03:11:33 1995
From: Frank Conte <frank at gti.net> (Frank Conte)
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 1995 22:11:33 -0500 (EST)
Subject: No subject
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.90.950224221002.25954A-100000 at gti.gti.net>

signoff

>From Frank Conte <frank at gti.net>  Sat Feb 25 03:12:34 1995
From: Frank Conte <frank at gti.net> (Frank Conte)
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 1995 22:12:34 -0500 (EST)
Subject: No subject
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.90.950224221154.25954B-100000 at gti.gti.net>

signoff

>From w7zrc at micron.net (Rod Greene)  Sat Feb 25 03:09:00 1995
From: w7zrc at micron.net (Rod Greene) (Rod Greene)
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 95 20:09 MST
Subject: Chairs
Message-ID: <m0riCss-000QXuC at mis01.micron.net>

After reading the postings about the chairs, I was surprised to NOT see
anything about a good quality secretarial chair.  I have been using one for
contests and find it works very well for me.  Seems like the job duties of a
secretary would be close to the conditions of a contest operator (long hours
at a keyboard).  The one I have I purchased used for a song.  You might
check your used office furniture dealers. 

BTW, for a look at an exotic Herman Miller creation, check out page 59 in
the March issue of Wired.  Supposedly it was designed with the help of a
"team of ergonomists, orthopedic specialists and physical therapists". Price
range of $765 to $1,225.  Maybe if I win the Lotto! 

No comments about my choice of reading material... Rod W7ZRC

............................................................................
w7zrc at micron.net             Rod Greene W7ZRC             Boise ID    DN13UN
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>From Jerry Crawford <z008807b at bcfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us>  Sat Feb 25 12:45:14 1995
From: Jerry Crawford <z008807b at bcfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us> (Jerry Crawford)
Date: Sat, 25 Feb 1995 07:45:14 -0500 (EST)
Subject: CT spot transfer
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9502250720.A22531-0100000 at bcfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us>

Planning to do a multi single with CT networked.  Is there a way
to make a spot from the spotting rig that will show up in the
ANNOUNCE window of the running rig without putting it out on
packet?  Of course it could be sent with ALT-G, but then the
info has to be manually put in radio etc.

BTW, if you are using CT 9.15 and not using DVP, make sure you
do not hit Alt-P while trying to get Alt-O or you will get dumped.
73, K7UPJ

Jerry Crawford
z008807b at bcfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us

>From Trey Garlough <GARLOUGH at TGV.COM>  Sat Feb 25 15:10:50 1995
From: Trey Garlough <GARLOUGH at TGV.COM> (Trey Garlough)
Date: Sat, 25 Feb 1995 07:10:50 -0800 (PST)
Subject: CT spot transfer
Message-ID: <793725050.729392.GARLOUGH at TGV.COM>

> Planning to do a multi single with CT networked.  Is there a way
> to make a spot from the spotting rig that will show up in the
> ANNOUNCE window of the running rig without putting it out on
> packet?  Of course it could be sent with ALT-G, but then the
> info has to be manually put in radio etc.

This sounds like an excellent question for the CT users mailing list.
Perhaps you should take this thread over there.

--Trey, WN4KKN/6