FW: TGV Goes Public

n0dh at comtch.iea.com n0dh at comtch.iea.com
Thu Mar 2 16:49:00 EST 1995

>>>In case you missed it: Our Fearless Leader's company, TGV Software, went
>>>public today.
>>So.... now maybe Trey can move to the *top* of the hill, and put up some
>>more aluminum... -Dave NG0X

>No Way!!! Unfortunately, now he'll spend all his time having to placate 
>stockholders !!!
>73, Tom WB4iUX (Tom.Skelton at ClemsonSC.ATTGIS.COM)

Or worse yet he's gonna be kissin the south bound ends of some north facing 
"Finacial Analysts". Pucker up amigo!...(would somebody please pass the 
blistex, thank you).....Dave N0Dh/7

>From barry at w2up.wells.com (Barry Kutner)  Fri Mar  3 01:10:17 1995
From: barry at w2up.wells.com (Barry Kutner) (Barry Kutner)
Date: Fri, 03 Mar 95 01:10:17 GMT
Subject: FW: TGV Goes Public
Message-ID: <u45c2c2w165w at w2up.wells.com>

"Skelton, Tom" <TSkelton at engineer.ClemsonSC.ATTGIS.COM> writes:

>  ----------
> From: ng0x
> To: cq-contest
> Subject: Re: TGV Goes Public
> Date: Wednesday, March 01, 1995 7:21PM
> >
> >In case you missed it: Our Fearless Leader's company, TGV Software, went
> >public today.
> >
> So.... now maybe Trey can move to the *top* of the hill, and put up some
> more aluminum... -Dave NG0X
> No Way!!! Unfortunately, now he'll spend all his time having to placate 
> stockholders !!!
> 73, Tom WB4iUX (Tom.Skelton at ClemsonSC.ATTGIS.COM)

Just wondering... What exactly does TGV do? I presume the TG are Trey's 
intials. What about the V? (Hope it's not CW shorthand for 4, hi)


Barry N. Kutner, W2UP       Usenet/Internet: barry at w2up.wells.com
Newtown, PA                 Packet Radio: W2UP @ WB3JOE.#EPA.PA.USA.NA
                            Packet Cluster: W2UP >K2TW (FRC)

>From Robert A. Wilson" <n6tv at VNET.IBM.COM  Fri Mar  3 01:54:55 1995
From: Robert A. Wilson" <n6tv at VNET.IBM.COM (Robert A. Wilson)
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 95 17:54:55 PST
Subject: TGV

TGV = Trey Garlough's Victory

N6TV = Trey's Victim   :)

>From Doug Grant <0006008716 at mcimail.com>  Fri Mar  3 02:01:00 1995
From: Doug Grant <0006008716 at mcimail.com> (Doug Grant)
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 95 21:01 EST
Subject: ARRL DX CW Scores V3 (Final)
Message-ID: <82950303020128/0006008716NA1EM at MCIMAIL.COM>

from 3830 and Internet
Breakdowns are 160-10 L-R
v 3.0 (and the last) 2 MAR 95
See everyone this weekend in the SSB event


W3LPL 9.23M 5307-580 150/57 733/95 1399/126 1745/130 1165/118 115/54
K1KI  7.67M 5040-509  97/44 507/81 1429/114 1753/124 1159/104  95/42
K3LR  7.23M 4559-529  88/42 568/92 1360/119 1344/116 1101/108  98/52
K1TR  7.1 M 4879-486  59/35 737/88 1126/108 1718/116 1161/101  78/38
N2RM  5.9 M 4013-491 154/48 558/81 1055/103 1312/115  830/97  104/47
KY1H  5.4 M 3899-467  74/41 517/82  904/96  1460/115  867/93   77/40
KY3N  4.97M 3568-465
K3ANS 3.86M 2912-445
W0AIH 3.29M 2556-430
K1KP  2.86M 2495-383  1 tower
WX0B  2.5 M 2390-367


K1AR  7.66M 5054-506  55/36 610/87 1346/113 1714/118 1247/110  82/42 at K1EA
N3RS  6.6 M 4391-504  66/37 475/84 1225/112 1417/118 1136/111  72/42
N2NT  6.47M 4218-512  79/44 556/85 1065/111 1272/116 1154/109  92/47 at NF2L
K8AZ  4.37M 3337-438  40/33 196/67  904/99  1223/100  914/103  60/36
W1CW/4 3.85 3028-425  43/30 317/72  814/92   921/95   786/86  147/50
WD8LLD 3.3M 2668-407  50/33 159/66  645/87  1070/101  689/90   55/30
WF3T  3.3 M 2695-411  at N6CQ/3
WO1N  2.5 M 2359-360
W6GO  2.4 M 2427-331  
K9UWA 2.3 M 2067-383
W9KDX 2.3 M 2048-380
N7ML  2.1 M 2267-312
NC0P  2.06M 1979-347


W3BGN 4.01M 2931-456  98/48 335/80  749/93   960/99  728/94  61/42
N2NU  3.89M 3024-429  73/42 433/79  655/80  1003/101 824/97  36/30
NK7U  1.23M 1744-236
N2IC  1.19M 1466-271
W6REC  856K 1186-241


K3WW  3.3M 2608-422  66/45 264/76  687/86  872/94  671/88  48/33
K5NA  3.1M 2369-436  47/39 248/76  654/93  634/97  742/96  44/35
AD1C  2.8M 2351-403 at KC1XX
K1IU  2.3M 2043-373 no 40M ant
K2WK  2.0M 1817-378
AA3B  1.9M 1833-344
KC1F  1.8M 1926-312
K2PS  1.6M 1578-334
N3RR  1.5M 1294-376
K2SX  1.36 1445-313
W1NG  1.25 1173-358
W2UP  1.16 1281-303
KF2O  987K  985-334
N6ZZ  944K 1081-294 
K4XU  912K  993-307
K3SA  882K 1018-290
W1YK  835K 1043-267  KM1P opr
WA1G  660K  825-267
K1FWF 360K  450-267  part time


KM1H  3.7M 3215-384  62/36 324/67 833/80 1081/95 881/82 34/24 KQ2M opr.
K5ZD  3.5M 3087-378  70/35 230/64 816/83  986/92 942/81 43/23
W1KM  3.2M 3018-354  47/29 430/69 875/84 1008/85 616/63 42/24
N4RJ  3.0M 2685-371  45/28 214/58 541/79  756/87 1076/91 53/27 KM9P opr
W2SC  2.87 2677-357
N6BV  2.86 2840-336
K3ZO  2.86 2617-365
KT3Y  2.55 2665-318 wires only
K1ZZ  2.20 2070-355
W9RE  1.97 1990-331
K2XA  1.43 1416-338
K0EJ  1.10 1391-263
KA4RRU 1.0 1285-261  40 hrs
K9MA   .98 1222-267
WB5VZL .91 1126-271
K8MR   .72  986-243  18 hrs
K0KX   .62  839-249
W2VJN  .59  954-206
AA6KX  .57  904-210 
K4AMC  .32  615-177  12 hrs


K2SG  1.46M 1626-299
K7SV  1.45M 1421-342
W1PH  1.28M 1449-294
W2TZ  1.09M 1300-280
K1VUT  932K 1284-242
WA0QOA 801K 1100-234
K2PH   605K  855-236
AA2UI  142K  324-147


AA2U   526K 741-237
K7FR   267K 606-147

W4MYA 160 158-58  26K
W0ZV  160 153-52  24K

W1MK   80 929-89  248K
AA6TT  80 320-61  58K  AA5B opr

VE2ZP  20 1489-112 500K UU2JX opr
VE9ST  20 1552-105 475K
KC2X   20 1326-107 436K
K4VX/0 20 1221-102 373K  W9WI opr
W1IHN  20  919-97  267K
WA6KUI 20  401-80   96K  Low Power

W5VX   15  879-91  240K
N4BP   15  807-89  215K

KE3Q   10 146-56  22K


C6AHE     LP 3.5M 3943-298
VP2E/WJ2O LP 3.4M 3818-298
XE1/AA6RX LP 3.0M 3166-321  
KP4VA     LP 2.9M 3599-272 KP4TK opr...no 160 
KH6RS     LP 2.5M 3082-269 N0AX opr

F6FGZ  	  HP 1.9M 2882-219
VK5GN     HP 1.3M 1864-232 N6AA op
VS6BG     HP 255K 708-106  15 hrs

DL2HBX   QRP 71K  319-74

KL7RA     40 173K 996-58

6E2T      M2 5.8M 5799-331
KL7Y      M2 3.5M 4096-289

J75A      MS 4.1M 4379-313 think this was MS (only 2 ops...)
V31TP     MS 3.8M 4092-307
HG1S      MS 2.1M 3113-229
EI7M      MS 2.1M 3032-229

S51QA 15m   515 47    72,615  
S56A  LP    496 116   172.260 
S59AA SOAB  588 131   230.691   
S50D  M/S  1963 189 1,113,021  
S59KW 80m   508 42    64.000  
S51W  80m   394 45    53,190
S50C  80m   419 39    49,023  

>From Kenneth G. Kopp" <0006485696 at mcimail.com  Fri Mar  3 02:13:00 1995
From: Kenneth G. Kopp" <0006485696 at mcimail.com (Kenneth G. Kopp)
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 95 21:13 EST
Subject: Autek PR
Message-ID: <53950303021335/0006485696PK4EM at MCIMAIL.COM>

Hello All!

Dave's comments re Autek's tells me the company (or it's owner) 
is still the unresponsive grouch he was many years ago when I had 
a question about one of his keyers.  May he enjoy Chapter 11.

73! de Ken Kopp/K0PP
k0pp at mcimail.com

>From Kenneth G. Kopp" <0006485696 at mcimail.com  Fri Mar  3 03:19:00 1995
From: Kenneth G. Kopp" <0006485696 at mcimail.com (Kenneth G. Kopp)
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 95 22:19 EST
Subject: "?" & POX on VOX
Message-ID: <52950303031925/0006485696PK1EM at MCIMAIL.COM>

Two observations from my effort as VP5PP in the ARRL CW DX ...

YES, diddy dum dum diddy in the middle of an exchange is a LARGE
pain in the rump and a demonstration of rudeness and impatience to
which I won't respond.  What does the butt-in'er expect ... am I to 
stop the present exchange, tell the current QSO to QRX while I work
the intruder and resume the exchange with the "first" station?  
I notice NO ONE ever ID's when behaving this way.  

A more signifigant proplem (for me) resulted from how some VOX circuits 
behave on CW.  W's become M's, K's become A's, N's become E's, etc.  
Heard the likes of A0EU (K0EU), E2IC (N2IC) and M8RLY (W8RLY) and many 
"RQ CQ de W#XYZ's". 

VOX's set for fast drop-out (between parts of the exchange) turned 
599's into H99's (or HNN's) and R's into N's, making me think I had
something incorrect and the sender was saying "N" for "no".  You might 
be surprised if you listened to your rig's transmitted signal (not the 
audio sidetone) as you send a typical fast exchange.  
A space as the first character in each of CT's F-key messages will 
compensate for sluggish VOX circuits/relays, and a foot-switch is
handy when you have to grab the paddles for that "not stored in CT"

And yes, to echo others, the op at KY3H was indeed a $%&*#! ... 
bet he sends ?'s, too.

73! de Ken Kopp/K0PP
k0pp at mcimail.com

>From Dr. Eugene Zimmerman" <ezimmerm at DGS.dgsys.com  Fri Mar  3 03:32:18 1995
From: Dr. Eugene Zimmerman" <ezimmerm at DGS.dgsys.com (Dr. Eugene Zimmerman)
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 1995 22:32:18 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Antenna construction material
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.950302222520.19448A-100000 at DGS>

On Thu, 2 Mar 1995, GARY JONES wrote:
> . . . What I am missing is a source for 6061-T6 aluminum tubing . Where
> else has what I need??


Some of the serious antenna-building locals may have found a cheaper 
source but for a reasonable price (much less than retail) and a WIDE 
variety of aluminu try the Dillsburg Aeroplane Works in Dillsburg, PA - a 
few miles south of Harrisburg just off Rt 15.  They specialize in 
supplying builders of homebrew airplanes and exotic racecars.  They have 
lots of interesting aluminum -- all sizes shapes and types.  I'm sure 
someone else will chime in and give you their exact address and fone nr.  
They also sell aluminum plate and heavy duty steel masts of all kinds of 
allys.  Don't remember about copper or brass tube/plate but I think they 
have that too.

Good luck

Gene  W3ZZ

>From Norton, Richard" <nortonr at MRD.SRL.dsto.gov.au  Fri Mar  3 22:31:00 1995
From: Norton, Richard" <nortonr at MRD.SRL.dsto.gov.au (Norton, Richard)
Date: Fri, 03 Mar 95 14:31:00 PST
Subject: Not Signing Calls on Every Contact
Message-ID: <2F5798B6 at msmail.dsto.gov.au>

There are two views of a DX station not signing his call between every 

1) Small stations, who have been calling for a while, like it because it 
decreases the time that they will need to expend to make a contact.

2) Some people with big stations, who usually get through on one call, do 
not like it because it increases the time that they will need to expend to 
make a contact.


When I am operating as a DX station, I generally do what I think will 
maximize my score. This often involves not signing my call every time. There 
is no set formula such as signing every three contacts. There is an 
independent decision made every time. A number of things influence these 

To start with, there are many cases where I copy more than one call after a 
CQ. I almost never sign my call in between working them, and can see no 
advantage to signing my call in between working them. There are people who 
state with religious conviction that one should always sign his call after 
every contact. I believe this example counters such a hard rule.

It is my desire to make people think they should stay around and continue to 
call. I often almost have the calls of several stations, and try to make 
them think things are happening fast, and it is just a moment before they 
will be in the log.  I do this by not signing my call, in hopes that new, 
stronger stations will be kept off balance, and the guys that have been 
calling will stay.

At the start of a contest or at the start of a band opening there is almost 
no problem doing this. People will call you and almost none will be 
duplicates. Sometimes one will say "CL? " during his exchange, and I always 
include my call when I return.

As the end of the contest gets nearer, I tend to sign more often. Often this 
will essentially be every time, because I sense there are too many out there 
who have worked me on that band. Usually this does not hurt my rate because 
new stations are harder to find at that time.

I also like it when people tailend, properly that is. I always imagine that 
any really good op can work me in a QSO or two, just by tailending, no 
matter how weak he is.


I operate many contests using  small stations as well as large, and call 
many stations. I often like it when stations do not sign their calls every 
time, particularly when I do not get them immediately. If I detect what I 
think to be a situation where the other operator always works the loudest 
station, I assess how for down I think I am, and react accordingly.

I have been operating in contests a long time and enjoy trying to identify 
stations who are not signing their calls. There are many things that can be 
used to do this. The report sent identifies the location in many contests. 
The powers sent in ARRL DX Contests help identify stations. Accents on 
phone, and tones on CW often help. Actual frequencies used help also. K1EA's 
and N6TR's logging programs have band mapping that now automates what I did 
manually for many years.

There are also clues in their exchanges that can tell you if you haven't 
worked someone, even if you don't know his call. If someone is signing a 
zone that I haven't worked, I'll call him and go CL? after sending my 

If someone goes 3 or 4 QSOs without signing, and I haven't figured out who 
he is or whether I have definitely not worked him, I may call anyway. If he 
ends up being a dupe, he can tell me so and we won't work. Guys do it to me 
when I don't sign my call, and I believe it's just part of the cost of doing 

By the way, the North American Sprint is a contest that if you haven't 
learned to tell who many stations are, before hearing their calls, you won't 
place in the top few. This is one of the things about the Sprint that makes 
it fun.


Dick N6AA/VK5      NortonR at MRD.SRL.DSTO.GOV.AU

>From JA3ZOH Mt. RF" <ja3zoh at qed.laser.ee.es.osaka-u.ac.jp  Fri Mar  3 05:57:57 1995
From: JA3ZOH Mt. RF" <ja3zoh at qed.laser.ee.es.osaka-u.ac.jp (JA3ZOH Mt. RF)
Date: Fri, 03 Mar 1995 14:57:57 +0900
Message-ID: <199503030558.OAA09670 at qed.laser.ee.es.osaka-u.ac.jp>


      160       78      234          21
       80      206      618          39
       40      695     2085          54
       20      659     1977          56
       15      856     2568          56
       10       57      171          13
     Totals   2551     7653         239  =   1,829,067

RIGS:		FT-1000, TS-950, TS-930, TS-690, 3-500Zx2 amplifiers
ANTENNA:	160m	5/8 lambda not-so-vertical, 1200ft beverage
		 80m	Loaded DP at 85ft, 1200ft beverage
		 40m	3 element loaded yagi at 115ft
		 20m	4 element yagi at 85ft
		 15m	5 element yagi at 55ft
		 10m	5 element yagi at 50ft
Pleasant surprise! 15m was unexpectedly good. The band was open as
early as 2100z.

160m was also good (on the first day in particular). We've been
getting crazy and crazy about this band since the first installation
of beverage. This time, we worked IL, IN, and MI for the first
time. The improved sensitivity is attributed to the lowered height of
the beverage. The previous beverage was more than 30 feet above ground
to avoid mushroom yard and therefore a bit noisy. We carefully made
our way into the forest, never to damage expensive mushrooms, and
wired the new beverage at 10 feet above ground. The new one was silent
and excellent.

CU ALL in the phone this weekend! (Sorry, no 160m phone allowed in JA)

de masa JH3PRR / JA3ZOH Mt.RF

>From root at DL6RAI.MUC.DE (Bernhard Buettner)  Thu Mar  2 21:56:17 1995
From: root at DL6RAI.MUC.DE (Bernhard Buettner) (Bernhard Buettner)
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 1995 22:56:17 +0100
Subject: NYC->Dayton anyone?
Message-ID: <m0rkIr3-0009C1C at dl6rai.muc.de>

Hello Contesters,

I am asking on behalf of Nick, UA2FJ and Victor, UA2FM. The two guys
from UZ2FWA/UW2F/RW2F would like to attend the Dayton Hamvention. They 
are looking for an opportunity to travel from NYC to Dayton on Wednesday 
or Thrusday before the event.

If you can give the two a lift, please contact me.

73 Ben
[] Bernhard Buettner (Ben)
[]      Mail: Am Brunnen 18, 85551 Kirchheim, Germany
[]  Internet: root at dl6rai.muc.de
[]    Packet: DL6RAI @ DB0AAB.#BAY.DEU.EU

>From Stehlik Claus <STEHLIK%ms at graz.pseg.siemens.co.at>  Fri Mar  3 18:19:00 1995
From: Stehlik Claus <STEHLIK%ms at graz.pseg.siemens.co.at> (Stehlik Claus)
Date: Fri, 03 Mar 95 10:19:00 PST
Subject: LOGPlus! Internet Reflector address?
Message-ID: <2F575DBF at mail-pc.ms%graz.pseg.siemens.co.at>

Hello contesters,
can anybody help me out with the address of the LOGPlus! Internet Reflector?
Got a card from Bob, KD7P that I can obtain an update from there but have
no address.
                    73, de Claus OE6CLD

* Claus Stehlik, OE6CLD
*       Mail: Murfeldsiedlung 39, A-8111 Judendorf, AUSTRIA
* Internet: stehlik at ms%graz.pseg.siemens.co.at
*         PR: OE6CLD at OE6XYG.AUT.EU

>From ni6t at ix.netcom.com (Garry Shapiro)  Fri Mar  3 09:58:28 1995
From: ni6t at ix.netcom.com (Garry Shapiro) (Garry Shapiro)
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 1995 01:58:28 -0800
Subject: Conway Reef DXpedition
Message-ID: <199503030958.BAA26878 at ix3.ix.netcom.com>

   					Release date: March 2, 1995
  With the addition of a fifth operator, the DXpedition team 
  is complete, and consists of the following members.
            Mats, SM7PKK        Garry, NI6T
            Nils, SM6CAS        Jun, JH4RHF
            Pekka, OH1RY
  This is an international team, with an emphasis on Europe. 
  We will make the best possible effort to move Conway Reef 
  down the "most-wanted" list around the world. The three 
  stations will be manned around the clock, requiring more 
  than 14 hours operating time per operator per day for 10 
  Landing permission has been secured and needed radio 
  licenses obtained.
  The DXpedition will be QRV from Conway Reef from 24 March to 
  April 3, including the CQ WPX SSB Contest. Preferred frequencies were 
  previously published. 
  Our callsigns are:   3D2CU   CW/RTTY
                       3D2CT   SSB
  SM7PKK and SM6CAS depart Sweden March 11 and arrive in Fiji 
  on the 13th, to be joined by the remaining operators over 
  the next several days.
  The cost of this DXpedition has increased, reflecting our 
  decision to better serve the DX Deserving by obtaining 
  larger power generators and more equipment. Our estimated 
  costs are $17,000, exclusive of personal travel to and 
  accommodations in Fiji.
  Due to our increased costs, we need more financial help from 
  the DX community. Our time to departure is short and a 
  timely response would be appreciated!
  Contributions may be sent to:
  The Conway Reef Fund, c/o Garry Shapiro, NI6T
  20941 Nez Perce Trail, Los Gatos, CA 95030.
  Contributions of $100 or more may also be sent to the 
  Northern California DX Foundation, c/o Bruce Butler, W6OSP, 
  and are tax-deductible (in the USA)! Be sure to specify that your 
  contribution is for the 1995 Conway Reef DXpedition!
  We look forward to working all of you in the pileups and 
  hope you enjoy our efforts.
  QSL routes follow. We urge all bulletins to print these as 
  shown: Mats still has mail arriving at his old address!
            3D2CU via              3D2CT via
            Mats Persson, SM7PKK   Philip Marsh, G4WFZ
            Zenithgatan 24 #5      Orcheston Road 28
            S-212 14 Malmo         Bournemouth
            Sweden                 BH8 SR Dorset
                                   Great Britain
  73 and CU from the 1995 Conway Reef DXpedition team!
						(from SM7PKK and NI6T)

>From kiddi at marel.is (Kristinn Andersen)  Fri Mar  3 11:23:32 1995
From: kiddi at marel.is (Kristinn Andersen) (Kristinn Andersen)
Date: Fri, 03 Mar 1995 11:23:32 +0000
Subject: Newsletters, editors, publishing...
Message-ID: <9503031126.AA13742 at marel.is>


it looks like I'll be editing a local amateur radio newsletter for the
next year.  Does anyone know of a E-mail group or Internet home page
for this subject?  I'm looking for on-line material for the newsletter,
such as operating events, technical stuff, propagation info, graphics
(such as comics/cartoons), etc.

Please respond directly to me at:

        kiddi at marel.is

Thanks and 73 de TF3KX

>From De Syam <syam at Glue.umd.edu>  Fri Mar  3 14:23:32 1995
From: De Syam <syam at Glue.umd.edu> (De Syam)
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 1995 09:23:32 -0500 (EST)
Subject: ARRL DX CW Scores V3 (Final)
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.950303092235.14937B-100000 at latte.eng.umd.edu>

Missing from the list was the SO score of Lew, N2LT, which is around 2.9 M

                   73, Fred Laun, K3ZO

>From De Syam <syam at Glue.umd.edu>  Fri Mar  3 14:32:14 1995
From: De Syam <syam at Glue.umd.edu> (De Syam)
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 1995 09:32:14 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Not Signing Calls on Every Contact
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.950303092510.14937C-100000 at latte.eng.umd.edu>

Having operated overseas in many contests I believe in signing my call 
after every contact unless:

1) Someone tailends me successfully
2) I picked up more than one call the last time

Unfortunately I do not respond as readily to tail-ends as I used to 
because, when doing so, the pile-up gets completely out of control 
nowadays as most of the newer operators, particularly in Europe, do not 
know what tail-ending is and confuse it with the practice of calling 
throughout one's contact with another station. 

                                         73, Fred Laun, K3ZO
                                         also HS0ZAR

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