CQ Rules confusion
N3ADL at aol.com
N3ADL at aol.com
Thu Oct 12 19:33:22 EDT 1995
Greetings es Salutations!!
I refrain from addressing this forum as it sometimes gets cluttered with
non contest stuff which is better left to Amir's reflector but there is
something that needs to be discussed. There has been some confusion as to
the rules for upcoming CQ contests I'd like to get squared away so there are
no misunderstandings. Among the things that need to be discussed and claified
are things like Internet access to packetcluster, over the air spotting for
DXpeditions, the use of multiple calls at M/M's, the removal of points for
unique calls etc. It seems as if there have been conflicting reports in the
last couple of months as to what is legal and what is not and what was not
legal a month or so ago is now legal. My feelings are that WHAT IS PRINTED IN
CQ AS THE RULES SHOULD BE THE RULES...PERIOD! There should be no room for
interpretation!!! We here in FRC land have heard that the COMPLETE rules
have not been printed in CQ and that one must buy K3EST's book to get them
among other rumors. Most of us in the US know that there have been rules
changes since the printed version came out. What then does the guy in S.
Africa do that does not have the media rescources to know of these changes??
GUESS ?? This is the best contest on the planet but this needs to be
addressed so that we are all playing on the same level playing field and
contest scores not disqualified or altered for rules not published or left
for interpretation by contest organizers that do indeed have an interest in
the outcome of the contest, especially, the "Club" category. This is not
questioning anyones integrity so save the flames for the "net" addicts but
lets get ALL of the cards on the table and play according to Hoyle. Making
rules changes on the fly and failing to make them explicitly clear reeks of
ineptness and has the potential to breed ill will.
73 de Doug V26DX @ V26B
>From [user unknown]" <cmschonewaldcox at ucdavis.edu Thu Oct 12 23:49:46 1995
From: [user unknown]" <cmschonewaldcox at ucdavis.edu (user unknown)
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 15:49:46 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: CQ WW RULES
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.951012154810.21429A at chip.ucdavis.edu>
The only rules for the CQ WW are published in the September issue of CQ
magazine.
73 Bob K3EST
CQ WW Director
>From Kok Chen <kchen at apple.com> Thu Oct 12 23:51:26 1995
From: Kok Chen <kchen at apple.com> (Kok Chen)
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 95 15:51:26 -0700
Subject: Things that no longer get published
Message-ID: <9510122251.AA10865 at apple.com>
N8AAT writes:
> Man, think how big the NCJ could be if it were distributed
> on 3.5 inch HD diskette!
Ummm... a little square 3.5 inches to a side? [sri, couldn't
resist :-)]
Oops, I mean 8.9 cm to a side.
Think of life ARRL membership as a lifetime subscription to a QSL
buro. Given my interest in ham radio, that is all that an ARRL
membership may soon be worth to me.
As a little pistol who only gets on contests just for fun, or to
pick up an occasional new one (or act as cannon fodder for the Real
Contesters[TM]), I probably will not go out of my way to buy a contest
rule book, and as a result will likely no longer participate in contests
that don't get written up in the RTTY Journal or CQ Magazine. As it is,
I am so cheap that I pick up a copy of NCJ at the local store only when
I find an interesting article.
They can spend pages and pages on warm and fuzzy non-technical
articles [do people really read those _wasted_ pages?], but can't spend
an occasional page or two for contest rules. Amazing...truly amazing.
And what about the minutes of the board (bored) meetings? Does anyone
read those? I'll bet they take up more space than contest rules.
73
Kok Chen, AA6TY kchen at apple.com
Apple Computer, Inc.
>From Swanson, Glenn, KB1GW" <gswanson at arrl.org Fri Oct 13 00:12:00 1995
From: Swanson, Glenn, KB1GW" <gswanson at arrl.org (Swanson, Glenn, KB1GW)
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 95 19:12:00 EDT
Subject: CQ Rules confusion
Message-ID: <307DA0A0 at arrl.org>
Greetings,
Can't help those without CQ Magazine, or WWW service, but the 1995 rules can
be found at this WWW site: http://mpoli.fi/~leif/oh2ki.html Hope this
helps.
Samples from the above web page:
"Read the UPDATED 1995 RULES and join the action. You will enjoy it. Many
new trophies wait for takers."
And, "For 1995, some rule changes have been made - like a computer disk is
REQUIRED this year!"
Finally," Phone is held October 28-29, 1995 - log deadline 1 DEC 1996
CW November 25-26, 1995 - log deadline 15
JAN 1996"
73, KB1GW
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>Greetings es Salutations!!
> I refrain from addressing this forum as it sometimes gets cluttered
with
> non contest stuff which is better left to Amir's reflector but there is
>something that needs to be discussed. There has been some confusion as to
>the rules for upcoming CQ contests I'd like to get squared away so there
are
>no misunderstandings. Among the things that need to be discussed and
claified
>are things like Internet access to packetcluster, over the air spotting for
>DXpeditions, the use of multiple calls at M/M's, the removal of points for
>unique calls etc. It seems as if there have been conflicting reports in the
>last couple of months as to what is legal and what is not and what was not
>legal a month or so ago is now legal. My feelings are that WHAT IS PRINTED
IN
>CQ AS THE RULES SHOULD BE THE RULES...PERIOD! There should be no room for
>interpretation!!! We here in FRC land have heard that the COMPLETE rules
>have not been printed in CQ and that one must buy K3EST's book to get them
>among other rumors. Most of us in the US know that there have been rules
>changes since the printed version came out. What then does the guy in S.
>Africa do that does not have the media rescources to know of these
changes??
>GUESS ?? This is the best contest on the planet but this needs to be
>addressed so that we are all playing on the same level playing field and
>contest scores not disqualified or altered for rules not published or left
>for interpretation by contest organizers that do indeed have an interest in
>the outcome of the contest, especially, the "Club" category. This is not
>questioning anyones integrity so save the flames for the "net" addicts but
>lets get ALL of the cards on the table and play according to Hoyle. Making
>rules changes on the fly and failing to make them explicitly clear reeks of
>ineptness and has the potential to breed ill will.
>
> 73 de Doug V26DX @
V26B
>
>From barry at w2up.wells.com (Barry Kutner) Thu Oct 12 22:28:54 1995
From: barry at w2up.wells.com (Barry Kutner) (Barry Kutner)
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 95 21:28:54 GMT
Subject: Things that no longer get published
Message-ID: <VeLVcD2w165w at w2up.wells.com>
jfeustle at UOFT02.UTOLEDO.EDU writes:
>
> As long as we're stuck to paper (chewing gum?), we'll continue to see
> prices rise and issues of minority interest (contesting?) cut out in the
> name of savings. Man, think how big the NCJ could be if it were distributed
> on 3.5 inch HD diskette!
>
Joe - Pleasse explain to me why every medical journal/textbook I
subscribe to or get an offer to buy costs anywhere from 2-10x as much on
CD-ROM than on paper?
On another note (which I've said before) there seem to be some sacred
cows at ARRL about what stays in QST. For example, Section News - does
ANYBODY care about that drivel?
--
Barry N. Kutner, W2UP Internet: barry at w2up.wells.com
Newtown, PA Packet Radio: W2UP @ WB3JOE.#EPA.PA.USA.NA
Packet Cluster: W2UP >WB2R (FRC)
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