Egg insulators

Mon Sep 11 16:41:56 EDT 1995

Does Anybody Know the magical length for spacing egg insulators along ur guy
lines?

Tnx  AL7CQ  Lloyd

>From Trey Garlough <GARLOUGH at TGV.COM>  Mon Sep 11 20:51:50 1995
From: Trey Garlough <GARLOUGH at TGV.COM> (Trey Garlough)
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 1995 12:51:50 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Egg insulators
Message-ID: <810849110.555893.GARLOUGH at TGV.COM>

> Does Anybody Know the magical length for spacing egg insulators along ur guy
> lines?

The point is to avoid resonant lengths.  The ARRL Antenna Book has a chart
that will help you figure out which ones are appropriate for your needs.

--Trey, WN4KKN/6

>From J.P. Kleinhaus" <aa2du at netcom.com  Mon Sep 11 20:54:56 1995
From: J.P. Kleinhaus" <aa2du at netcom.com (J.P. Kleinhaus)
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 1995 12:54:56 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Egg insulators
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9509111203.A13657-0100000 at netcom18>

It has always been my understanding that you should break up
metallic guy wires every 27.5 feet. I'm sure there are variations
on that theme, but that seems to be a good number.

73, J.P. AA2DU

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>From Matthew S. Trott" <0007288678 at mcimail.com  Mon Sep 11 21:11:00 1995
From: Matthew S. Trott" <0007288678 at mcimail.com (Matthew S. Trott)
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 95 15:11 EST
Subject: AA7BG CW Sprint
Message-ID: <60950911201106/0007288678PJ1EM at MCIMAIL.COM>

I was one of the Grateful Fred when KE7X came on and I actually worked my own
section for a change. Where were you the first 3 hours of the test Fred? 

                         1995 NCJ NORTH AMERICAN SPRINT

     Call used: AA7BG                                          Location: MT

     Category: Single Op All Band         Mode: CW              Power: 100

     Callsign of Operator: AA7BG 

     Exchanged Information: AA7BG nr MATT MT  

     band      QSOs     points

     -------------------------

      80         56         56

      40         73         73

      20         62         62

     -------------------------

     TOTAL      191        191   X   37 multipliers  =  7,067

     Club or Team Name: NCCC (No-Code Contest Club) 

     Comments:

Rig--TS930
Ants: 40/80 Dipoles at 25 feet---20 TH3 at 28 feet

     Name: Matt Trott                      Call: AA7BG 

           1220 Wilson Rd.               

           Power, MT 59468

>From aa4lr at radio.org (Bill Coleman AA4LR)  Mon Sep 11 21:30:07 1995
From: aa4lr at radio.org (Bill Coleman AA4LR) (Bill Coleman AA4LR)
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 1995 16:30:07 -0400
Subject: Derekmania
Message-ID: <v01520d00ac7a4a2364ff@[205.160.29.40]>

>What seems to be bugging people is the "elite" tag put on the Derekians.
>As if they are saying, "Lookit, we can beat you even if we run low power,
>use awful calls, and funny names...neener, neener, neener!"  I don't feel
>like that was the point at all...or at least very much.

I didn't participate in the event, (Station shack still under construction)
but I didn't get that sense either. It just looked like some of the "big
guns" were trying to come up with a way to make the contest more fun. They
took on a new challenge.

> Us low-power
>types have been saying, "C'mon, C'mon" for awhile, and so they did!
>What's the big hairy deal?

What I find most interesting is that at least two of the participants have
stated "never again." From a little gun with no amp (and no antennas right
now), I find this somewhat amusing. I don't have much of a choice but to
use what meager station I have to compete.

Then again, I haven't yet developed the skills to make the most out of a
mega-station, either.

Hmm. Maybe there's a moral in here somewhere....

Bill Coleman, AA4LR      Mail: aa4lr at radio.org
Quote: "The same light shines on vineyards that makes deserts." -- Steve
Hackett

>From H. Ward Silver" <hwardsil at seattleu.edu  Mon Sep 11 22:39:41 1995
From: H. Ward Silver" <hwardsil at seattleu.edu (H. Ward Silver)
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 1995 14:39:41 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Derekmania
Message-ID: <Pine.3.07.9509111441.D9574-b100000 at bach.seattleu.edu>

Ah, so...

What is underlying this discussion is the fact that the Sprint has become
one of a very limited number, like 2 or 3, of "absolute" yardsticks that
really separate the "sheep from the goats".  Thus, any perceived
"cheapening" of that yardstick by the Big Guns damages the quality of the
competition.  

The analogy would be if the best actors all decided to do "Hamlet", but as
a comic farce.  It might be a really great comic farce, but it wouldn't be
"Hamlet".  The audience, which expected to see "Hamlet", would be
 dissapointed.   And the aspiring actors, who maybe expected to do serious
"Hamlet", wouldn't be happy as it wouldn't be the learning experience they
needed.

It would be a non-issue if, say, the Eds all decided to go QRP, as we have
only one real Gun (SS) in the group.  It would have a negligible effect on
the overall yardstick.  Who cares, if Minor Acting Troupe #8423 does
"Hamlet" as a farce?

Sprint is Serious Bid'niss and messin' around with it is Not OK.  I
understand the point, but haven't decided whether I agree with it or not. 
As I'm not a Big Gun, I don't have that perspective.  Is it unfair to ask
the Big Guns to be Serious every time out?  Maybe.  They wouldn't let
Arnold Palmer play in the Masters left-handed.  Can KR0Y never be "Elvis"
and must always be "Jeff"?

I think the Big Guns have earned their frolic.  It was unexpected and
perhaps more extensive than expected, changing the fabric of the
competition in an unusual way.  Is it irreversible?  Nah.  Perhaps the
novelty team idea (including the Ed's) has gone too far?

That said, I still need a couple of Jerry's for the Grateful Ed Swan
Songfest on Saturday night.

73, Ward N0AX

>From Larry Tyree <tree at cmicro.com>  Mon Sep 11 23:28:08 1995
From: Larry Tyree <tree at cmicro.com> (Larry Tyree)
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 1995 15:28:08 -0700
Subject: Derek-mania
Message-ID: <199509112228.PAA02320 at cascade.cmicro.com>

Some of you must of missed my earlier posting:

This was a ONE TIME event.  Most everyone on the team had fun, but isn't 
interested in doing it again.  They will all be back next February 
running high power, and trying to be the first to make 400 QSOs.

Please, enough comments saying "If they continue doing this it will....".

Just so their isn't any more confusion on who the team members were:

KC5NWX - KR0Y
WN4KKN - Himself
KC7KMC - N6TR
KA6LAF - N6AA
KE6UCF - N6TV
KC5NSS - N6ZZ
KC5OYM - N5RZ
KF4BTH - N4RJ
KB0SRK - N2IC
WB5SQG - K5ZD

The team name is Domino and the Dereks.

Most of these are club calls that belong to clubs the operators are
members of.  One or two were borrowed from other operators.

KA2AEV was not associated with the team.  VE4VV was on another team and
didn't know about it ahead of time.  AA5BT was a prospective team member
after K1KI couldn't make it, but was replaced by N5RZ by his request.

K5GN was approached, but was on another team.  However, he did
sign the call KC5PRF and operated with the same limitations, except 
for the name part.

N6TR was operated by K2MM at the same station as KC7KMC on a non
interfering basis.

Activity was down some.  Perhaps in February we will have a few more 
teams signed up.  This is the best way to have a positive impact on
the contest.  Why not start up a team and try to make half of your 
members first timers?

My apologies to those of you who think this was something sinister.  That
was not the intent.  If we really wanted to be sinister, we would of
sent with our left feet (to get this joke, you might need to look up 
the word "sinister" in your dictionary.  I didn't know this meaning
of the word until K2MM mentioned it the other day).

Tree N6TR
tree at cmicro.com

>From oo7 at astro.as.utexas.edu (Derek Wills)  Mon Sep 11 23:41:00 1995
From: oo7 at astro.as.utexas.edu (Derek Wills) (Derek Wills)
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 1995 17:41:00 -0500
Subject: Derek-mania

	>>If we really wanted to be sinister, we would of [sic] sent 
        >>with our left feet (to get this joke, you might need to look 
        >>up the word "sinister" in your dictionary.  I didn't know this 
        >>meaning of the word until K2MM mentioned it the other day).
	                                                     Tree N6TR

Nothing sinister about it, it was just very gauche of you all.

Now I wish I could have accepted the invitation to be a team member,
so that I could bask in the glory of all these postings calling me
part of the "Sprint Elite".

I'm truly honored that my name was used in this way without my even 
having to be a Silent Key first.

As Tree mentioned, I was unable to participate this time at any
significant level, but I was able to put in the required effort
to win a certificate (if K0AD sends in his log).

Actually, a serious effort from our club station would have been
impossible, since our tower blew over two days earlier, in the worst
storm to hit Austin in at least 20 yrs.

Derek [sic] AA5BT