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>From Art Moe <artmoe at agora.rdrop.com> Mon Apr 1 14:28:14 1996
From: Art Moe <artmoe at agora.rdrop.com> (Art Moe)
Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 06:28:14 -0800 (PST)
Subject: No subject
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.3.91.960401062553.3755D-100000 at agora.rdrop.com>
I just got a older Mac laptop. Could someone please tell me
whats out there for contest software.
thanks
art
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73's de
Arthur Moe Oregon City, Or
A.R.S. KB7WW 45-19-22 N 122-36-37 W CN85
artmoe at agora.rdrop.com At the end of the Oregon Trail
QRP ARCI QRP-L #290
>From Douglas S. Zwiebel" <104141.2660 at compuserve.com Mon Apr 1 14:27:49 1996
From: Douglas S. Zwiebel" <104141.2660 at compuserve.com (Douglas S. Zwiebel)
Date: 01 Apr 96 09:27:49 EST
Subject: QRO...the REAL story
Message-ID: <960401142748_104141.2660_IHO61-1 at CompuServe.COM>
Okay guys, it's time to clear the air. All you "holier than thou" types who think
that running a few extra watts is a problem are way off base here. Running 2 or 5 or
10 or 20 KW is SIMPLY NO BIG DEAL. From first hand experience, I can confidently
tell you that ALL the top ten run AT LEAST 10 KW A T T H E A N T E N N A !!
When I operated from N2AA/K2GL, we used Henry 2K's as DRIVERS. I've also operated
with K1AR, K1DG, KC1XX, W3LPL, W7RM, N2LT, N2RM, K3ZO, K4VX, N4AR, W2PV, and on
and on, and EVERYBODY does it. Sure, the east coast helps, but we suffer from
poor condidtions also. All we are doing is making up for the atmospheric loss which
IS NOT OUR FAULT. If condx were good, we would have the same signal anyway. And can
we help it if our towers are 700 to 1200 feet away from the shack. Come on....can
we REALLY be expected to take that kind of unfair loss? Again, all we are doing is
compensating for how loud we would normally be.
As for the contest sponsors, they can't possibly check power, so why worry. Are you
going to let signing your name to some 2 cent piece of paper stand in your way of
winning? Get Real! They are paper tigers. Besides, most of the winning stations
are populated by US (committee members) anyway...no way we'll DQ ourselves. "If every
one else does it, I should do it too" is definitely the right way to handle this.
And as for the QRPers...it sure has taken you idiots a LONG time to figure that one
out. I currently have a few records (CQWW and WPX) in the qrp category, and I can now
feel relieved to finally come out of the closest (sure gets hot in there too). It's
true.....I ran at least 1500 watts the whole time. And for that AA2U guy who holds
all of the QRP that I don't, forget it. Why do you think he bought that 4CX5000 ????
All I can say to the whiners is GROW UP. Sure it costs a lot to buy BIG coax and
connectors. Sure it costs a lot to run those 100 amp lines into the house. Sure
those 20kw baluns and 20kw antenna switches are tough to find and expensive to
acquire, but hey...isn't it all worth it? So what if I could put up a few more
monobanders or towers for less than the cost of the amp with all the needed
accessories. Do you have any idea of the CHARGE we get when hit that BIG SWITCH?
It is far more satisfying than looking outside at another hunk of aluminum. And talk
about the smirks on our faces when you mere 1500 watt types try to compete SERIOUSLY.
It is just too much to hold in.
I'm so glad that this discussion finally got the reflector onto something meaningful.
I feel that I have now fulfilled my obligation to the contest community by sharing
the real secret. For me, if I ever went to a contest station that ran only "legal"
power, I know I'd walk out before even sitting down there.....what a waste.
de Doug KR2Q
>From Del Seay <seay at alaska.net> Mon Apr 1 14:10:49 1996
From: Del Seay <seay at alaska.net> (Del Seay)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 1996 06:10:49 -0800
Subject: QRO
References: <199603312004.PAA23829 at atl1.america.net> <315F60C9.57A8 at avana.net>
Message-ID: <315FE3E9.5C40 at alaska.net>
Ed Tanton N4XY wrote:
>
> Me too Rick... mine is an Alpha 78. But the problem raising all this
> commentary isn't either the 76 or the 78, but rather the pairs (and
> worse) of 8877s and such. There is a perfectly reasonable argument for
> such on RTTY: the 100% duty cycle thing; there is even a possibility
> that having the reserve PEP really DOES add to the REALLY instantaneous
> peaks without raising the measured (slowly/averaged) PEP our meters
> usually read.
>
The 8877 is designed to dissipate 1500 watts in heat with proper
air flow in ccs service. RTTY takes it's toll on other components
such as tank coils, rfcs, etc. So, there is more heat generated
by two tubes than one (another filament), so life is not extended
by additional tubes in a properly designed amplifier. The only
reason for the extra 8877 is "Go Get Em" power!
de KL7HF
>From Ed Tanton N4XY <n4xy at avana.net> Mon Apr 1 15:20:36 1996
From: Ed Tanton N4XY <n4xy at avana.net> (Ed Tanton N4XY)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 1996 10:20:36 -0500
Subject: M3
References: <199604010523.HAA15391 at nixpbe.pdb.sni.de>
Message-ID: <315FF444.3D87 at avana.net>
Thanks Waldemar... The point with the M3 was supposed to be twofold: a)
The M3 is the automotive equivalent of a 2-hole 8877 Alpha (it really is
at least 3); and b) I drive within the law here-where we have speed
limits preventing its maximum use. That makes it no less fun to
own, or to drive. (It had NOTHING to do with some obscure reference to
its cost-except that 2-hole Alphas and above are also expensive. I know
you weren't talking about any of these things, but I was looking for a
chance to mention my reasoning.
And yes, it is absolutely the greatest driving experience I have ever
had the privilege to enjoy. The guys at the M-Group really know their
stuff!!! Best regards & 73
--
Ed Tanton N4XY (770) 971-0436 Marietta, GA
email: n4xy at avana.net URL: Coming Soon
>From Chad Kurszewski WE9V <kurscj at oampc12.csg.mot.com> Mon Apr 1 15:30:12 1996
From: Chad Kurszewski WE9V <kurscj at oampc12.csg.mot.com> (Chad Kurszewski WE9V)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 1996 09:30:12 -0600
Subject: "Pirate" QRM
Message-ID: <2.2.32.19960401153012.006f6b18 at oampc12.csg.mot.com>
Well, before anyone starts mentioning (bad-mouthing) calls in their
WPX write up, pay heed:
I was QRM'd Sunday on 20M by a person with a DVP who would go around
and record other contester's CQs and replay them on my frequency.
At first I was fooled. He recorded a CQ by a W8 M/S and played it
on my freq. I told the W8 to go away and said that I know that he
has GOT to hear me. This person then recorded MY CQ and played it
back. That's when I caught on.
This person then recorded NE9U's CQ and played that to me.
(So Randy, NE9U could have been an imposter.)
SO....if people were CQ'ing on your frequency without asking, AND
you had no dialog, no "active conversation" with that person,
chances are you were duped by someone with a DVP.
WE9V M/S @ KS9K
---
Chad Kurszewski, WE9V e-mail: Chad_Kurszewski at csg.mot.com
The Official "Sultans of Shwing" Web Site: http://www.4w.com/ham/sos
>From John Dorr K1AR" <p00259 at psilink.com Mon Apr 1 15:50:42 1996
From: John Dorr K1AR" <p00259 at psilink.com (John Dorr K1AR)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 96 10:50:42 -0500
Subject: QRO...the REAL story
Message-ID: <3037457050.5.p00259 at psilink.com>
I can confirm Doug's allegations. We at K1EA routinely run 5-10KW. I
never knew for sure what our power level was because with the 5KW Bird slug
installed, the meter was always stuck on the right pin.
Now, I can't speak for all the stations Doug mentioned, but I know for sure
that N2RM, K1DG, W3LPL and W2PV run/ran incredibly illegal power. I always
marveled at their technical expertise in designing inter-station
interference-free multi-ops. So, now you all know. And, everyone thought
that it was just being on the East Coast.
73 John
>DATE: 01 Apr 96 09:27:49 EST
>FROM: Douglas S. Zwiebel <104141.2660 at compuserve.com>
>
>Okay guys, it's time to clear the air. All you "holier than thou" types who think
>that running a few extra watts is a problem are way off base here. Running 2 or 5 or
>10 or 20 KW is SIMPLY NO BIG DEAL. From first hand experience, I can confidently
>tell you that ALL the top ten run AT LEAST 10 KW A T T H E A N T E N N A !!
>When I operated from N2AA/K2GL, we used Henry 2K's as DRIVERS. I've also operated
>with K1AR, K1DG, KC1XX, W3LPL, W7RM, N2LT, N2RM, K3ZO, K4VX, N4AR, W2PV, and on
>and on, and EVERYBODY does it. Sure, the east coast helps, but we suffer from
>poor condidtions also. All we are doing is making up for the atmospheric loss which
>IS NOT OUR FAULT. If condx were good, we would have the same signal anyway. And can
>we help it if our towers are 700 to 1200 feet away from the shack. Come on....can
>we REALLY be expected to take that kind of unfair loss? Again, all we are doing is
>compensating for how loud we would normally be.
>
>As for the contest sponsors, they can't possibly check power, so why worry. Are you
>going to let signing your name to some 2 cent piece of paper stand in your way of
>winning? Get Real! They are paper tigers. Besides, most of the winning stations
>are populated by US (committee members) anyway...no way we'll DQ ourselves. "If every
>one else does it, I should do it too" is definitely the right way to handle this.
>
>And as for the QRPers...it sure has taken you idiots a LONG time to figure that one
>out. I currently have a few records (CQWW and WPX) in the qrp category, and I can now
>feel relieved to finally come out of the closest (sure gets hot in there too). It's
>true.....I ran at least 1500 watts the whole time. And for that AA2U guy who holds
>all of the QRP that I don't, forget it. Why do you think he bought that 4CX5000 ????
>
>All I can say to the whiners is GROW UP. Sure it costs a lot to buy BIG coax and
>connectors. Sure it costs a lot to run those 100 amp lines into the house. Sure
>those 20kw baluns and 20kw antenna switches are tough to find and expensive to
>acquire, but hey...isn't it all worth it? So what if I could put up a few more
>monobanders or towers for less than the cost of the amp with all the needed
>accessories. Do you have any idea of the CHARGE we get when hit that BIG SWITCH?
>It is far more satisfying than looking outside at another hunk of aluminum. And talk
>about the smirks on our faces when you mere 1500 watt types try to compete SERIOUSLY.
>It is just too much to hold in.
>
>I'm so glad that this discussion finally got the reflector onto something meaningful.
>I feel that I have now fulfilled my obligation to the contest community by sharing
>the real secret. For me, if I ever went to a contest station that ran only "legal"
>power, I know I'd walk out before even sitting down there.....what a waste.
>
>de Doug KR2Q
>
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