ATTN Texas Contesters!
KB5YVT at aol.com
KB5YVT at aol.com
Sat Apr 20 23:02:31 EDT 1996
TQP Coming May 4-5, we need your help! Please give us a few hours this
weekend and put your county on the air! If you plan to operate please drop
me a line as to which county or counties.
Thanks for the band width ...... MIke..
Information on the Texas QSO Party. Hope you'll be a part of it!
73 Mike KB5YVT
The New, Bigger, Better Texas QSO Party
Sponsored by: The Texas DX Society
"Looking for a unique Club Project to get your members motivated?"
"Are you looking for a way to get your members off the repeater and working
together on a Club Project?"
"Are you looking for a great way to expose your Club Members to a fun HF
operating event?"
*Win Air/Hotel for a Weekend to the Houston Ham Convention!*
*Texas Wine Baskets*
*Top Finishers Plaques*
*Commemorative Caps*
*Special Texas Clubs Awards*
With the help of your club or group, we can make this the best State QSO
Party! Texas is a BIG state. We need to put as many Texas Counties on the air
as possible. Please talk with your members and plan to be a part of this
years TQP. This can be a great exercise to practice emergency set-up,
prepare for Field Day, let the public see amateur radio in action or just get
out and have some fun. There will be special awards for clubs and groups
that activate counties. Enclosed, is also a copy of the rules. If you have
any questions please feel free to contact me for more information. Help us
start a real Texas Tradition and put the TQP back on the map!!
Remember: Just get on the air and call " CQ TQP any station anywhere for the
Texas QSO Party" We have to make the activity to make it a success. Even if
you can only operate for a few hours, you will make a difference!
Thanks in advance for your help!
Mike Hance KB5YVT
P.O. Box 457, Bedias TX 77831
E-Mail: KB5YVT at AOL.COM
Please return the information below and help us activate all the Texas
Counties!
Texas QSO Party May 4-5, 1996
Club or Group Name_________________________
Counties Activated___________________________
Contact Name/Call___________________________
Address_____________________________________
Phone#_____________________________________
Texas QSO Party May 4-5 1996
Sponsored by the Texas DX Society
1400Z May 4 to 2200z May 5
Classes:
Single op, Multi-single and Texas Armadillo Expedition
Mixed Mode Only
Exchange:
Send QSO # and Texas County or State/Canadian Province
Rules:
Texas stations work everyone. Others work Texas Only.
Only one transmitted signal at a time. CW QSO's must be made in CW subbands,
except on 160. Work stations once per band/mode for QSO points, work Texas
Armadillo stations again on same band or mode as they change counties for
multiplier credit only. Multipliers count only once regardless of band or
mode. CW- 1.805 and 40 kHz up, Phone- 1.850, 3.850, 7.230, 14.250, 21.300,
28.450.
Scoring:
Score 2 pts/QSO on Phone and 3pts/QSO on CW. Final score is QSO points x
Texas Counties (max 254). Texas stations multiply by States, Canadian
Provinces and Texas Counties. DX counts for QSO points only.
Awards:
Texas Wine Baskets and Plaques to top class finishers
Special Awards to Texas Clubs with most logs submitted
Special Awards to Multi-single and Texas Armadillo Expedition with the most
Novice/Tech operators ( List them with a /T or /N in your list of operators
on summary sheet)
Work 50 or more Texas Counties for Special Commemorative Cap
Work all 254 Texas Counties for free air fare to the 1996 Houston Ham
Convention!
Send logs and summary sheet via mail, disk or E-Mail within 30 days.
TDXS, POB 540291 , Houston, Tx 77254 / e-mail KB5YVT at AOL.COM
Results will be posted on the Internet Contest Reflector, Sent with a SASE or
via E-Mail.
TQP is Supported by NA Contest Software from LTA @ (216)-565-9950 and TR
Contest Software @ (512) 416-7010
>From Richard Hallman <ki3v at rnodx.org> Sun Apr 21 04:53:11 1996
From: Richard Hallman <ki3v at rnodx.org> (Richard Hallman)
Date: Sat, 20 Apr 1996 20:53:11 pdt
Subject: Contesting and the Internet?
Message-ID: <3179B12E-00000001 at rnodx.org>
>Have been trying to get W6GO, keeper of the SF Bay Area Cluster
Im open for connects....Send me E-Mail and we can have a link together...
> Brad Wyatt told me, the Bay Area Cluster
>tried a link with Europe awhile back, and they got to much info
>back that was of no use to them around SF, so they dropped off.
>This would not happen allowing Jukka to post their spots on the
>internet.
Not true....We had a problem with our other gateway....Installed our own
and we are back on line....
>Interesting topic, but I suspect there is a fair amount of "if we
>have them spotted, why share them with you?" attitude, tho
>would hope this is not the case.
Not a problem here......The more the better!!
Rich KI3V Reno Internet gateway Sysop wadg.ampr.org
**********************************************************
Richard Hallman ki3v at rnodx.org
11870 Heartpine St
Reno Nv 89506 ki3v at w7ta.#nonev.nv
**********************************************************
>From Tom Francis <tomf at neca.com> Sun Apr 21 04:58:59 1996
From: Tom Francis <tomf at neca.com> (Tom Francis)
Date: Sat, 20 Apr 1996 23:58:59 -0400
Subject: Contesting and the Internet?
Message-ID: <199604210358.XAA12074 at orion.neca.com>
At 05:14 PM 4/20/96 pdt, Richard Hallman, ki3v at rnodx.org, wrote:
snip - cut - slash - edit
"I think we have lost sight of what our hobby REALLY is.....
Its not networking Internet nodes, it SHOULD be looking for ways
to link our networks by RADIO."
snip - cut - slash - edit
My $.02...
KI3V is correct and hit this one on the mark.
snip - cut - slash - edit
"So whats the problem with using Internet for linking nodes?? It
isnt RADIO!!"
snip - cut - slash - edit
It seems to me that this is one instance of technology being
applied in an inappropriate fashion. KI3V makes a good case
for increasing the potential of high speed RADIO links instead
of "high speed" land-line links....
Which brings up an interesting point - If Internet links are
not considered illegal for contests, then it only follows that
using land-line via voice link would also be legal - yes/no??
Your using the same communications medium - telephone link -
Just a thought...
Ok, I'll leave y'all alone - I just came in to read the email
and saw the internet postings and had to say something. Now,
it's back to installing the new intake manifold on my 88
Monte Carlo SS - still looking for a 11 second ET on street
tires - hi....
73 to all....
Tom, NM1Q (tomf at neca.com)
>From Gary Schwartz <garyk9gs at solaria.sol.net> Sun Apr 21 05:09:54 1996
From: Gary Schwartz <garyk9gs at solaria.sol.net> (Gary Schwartz)
Date: Sat, 20 Apr 1996 23:09:54 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: Contesting and the Internet?
Message-ID: <Pine.3.02.9604202350.A21231-b100000 at solaria.sol.net>
On Sat, 20 Apr 1996 ramirezk at emi.com wrote:
> I could create
> a 10 MHZ link to PVDXSN if I wanted to. That would use Amateur means of
> communication. I would be employing RADIO to communicate.
I've always wondered about this. If I used a 10 Mhz Packetcluster link
and operated Multi-op/Single transmitter, does the 10 Mhz station
constitute having a second signal transmitting at the same time??
Would it be legal to link into Packetcluster via, 10 Mhz or another band,
while on a contest expedition to the carribean?
73,
Gary K9GS
__________________
/ K9GS |______________________________
/ FP/K9GS, TO5M |Society of Midwest Contesters |____________________
( | garyk9gs at solaria.sol.net |Secretary/Treasurer/
\ Gary Schwartz | K9GS at WA9KEC.WI.USA.NOAM | Greater Milwaukee/
\__________________| PacketCluster: NB9C | DX Association (
(________________________________| GMDXA \
(_____________________\
>From Joseph M. O'Brien" <jobrien at minerva.cis.yale.edu Sun Apr 21 05:48:38 1996
From: Joseph M. O'Brien" <jobrien at minerva.cis.yale.edu (Joseph M. O'Brien)
Date: Sun, 21 Apr 1996 00:48:38 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Contesting and the Internet?
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.960421001943.23758A-100000 at morpheus>
Hello everyone!
Put in my vote for allowing Internet clusters and links to be used
during contests. Simply, they add to the fun. In addition to offering
greater cluster access to those living in areas with low local packet
activity, these connections provide access to greater information, which
inherently makes strategy formulation more interesting (although more
complicated--which is more interesting in itself). When I check the
OH2BUA Webcluster and see what Europe is hearing, it gives a nice snapshot
of what stations are active and who I should be listening for when I get
propagation to that part of the world. Maybe I spend extra time listening
for that rare mult--maybe I don't. Either way, there's an added element
to the game.
Furthermore, I just don't see how this necessarily violates rules
prohibiting the use of non-amateur communications to solicit QSO's/make
contacts OR endangers radio contesting in general. Under current rules
(ARRL at least), you couldn't send a "talk" request over the Internet to
arrange a QSO or even spot yourself. You could only receive the spots and
spot others.
Second, no-one is suggesting supplanting radio contests with
Internet-only contests. A great part of the fun is in setting up the
antennas, the stations and making contacts on the air using radios. Until
the day comes when the contest community stops enjoying those aspects of
radio contesting, I don't think we have much to worry about from access to
Internet clusters and links.
73,
Joe, WI2E
jobrien at minerva.cis.yale.edu
>From Gary Letchford <k0luz at ix.netcom.com> Sun Apr 21 13:12:10 1996
From: Gary Letchford <k0luz at ix.netcom.com> (Gary Letchford)
Date: Sun, 21 Apr 1996 08:12:10 -0400
Subject: Contesting and the Internet?
References: <31797E08-00000001 at rnodx.org>
Message-ID: <317A261A.2947 at ix.netcom.com>
Richard Hallman wrote:
> So those who think that Internet during contests are OK, I have a
> question??
>
> I connect directly to other Clusters via my Phone line at my
> house....I send a talk message to a fellow in EU and Ask him to QSY to
> 15 meters where I need him. Now whats the differnce if I pick up the
> PHONE and CALL him and ask him to go to 15 meters or I set up a sked
> with him. Its STILL Telephone and NO RADIO involved!!!
>
> Maybe we need to just link everybody together and have the computers
> on Internet make the contacts while we are on Vacation.....A bit
> extreme??
>
> Dont get me wrong...I enjoy the Internet linked nodes and think its
> GREAT.....But I think during contests we need to stick to RADIO. I
> also feel for WB0O and others that have no proagation or
> clusters....But, what do we do for us on the West Coast that wont hear
> EU for another several years???? We cant make everybody equal...
>
> Yep.....You hit a nerve!!*********************************************************
I understand your thought but .............
Many areas, yours included are at a very distinct disadvantage
during contests. Especially multi singles and multi multis who
may use packet freely and compete with the east coast where
radios fulfill the requirements we all desire.
Here in Florida, our connection ends at the Georgia line. All
we can connect to are stations in Florida period. The Southeast
packet group doesn't want to add us to their list because they
have too many connects already (according to them).
So the southeast group has a very distinct advantage during
contests in that they are getting mucho spots "by radio" and
we are getting .... .
To level the playing field, spots should be permitted in any way
obtainable with rules to prohibit situations like setting up skeds
on internet. Will someone cheat? probably, but they also are
probably running 5 KW too.
Yes, the spots aren't obtained by radio, but then there must
be some other areas that things aren't pure enough in contest.
Personally, I enjoy the element of spots appearing on my screen
as I work a contests. But I would like to think that if I am
being placed in a category that allows everyone to use spots,
then I want the opportunity to see the same spots they are.
Technology ...... what a mess it makes! hi
73
Red
K0LUZ
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