AEA TDR
K8DO at aol.com
K8DO at aol.com
Sat Aug 3 09:52:08 EDT 1996
hmmm... I always find it quicker and cheaper to measure from the bulletholes
to the shack if I am that interested... otherwise, I just replace the coax...
Denny
>From B.KNEZOVIC at ZAMIR-SA.ZTN.APC.ORG (Boris Knezovic T93Y) Sat Aug 3 11:11:12 1996
From: B.KNEZOVIC at ZAMIR-SA.ZTN.APC.ORG (Boris Knezovic T93Y) (Boris Knezovic T93Y)
Date: Sat, 03 Aug 1996 11:11:12 +0100
Subject: Need RTTY Roundup results...
Message-ID: <12.1218 at zamir-sa.ztn.apc.org>
Hello contest operators !
After few months of absence I am again here on Contest
forum, but now with new E-mail address and new call.
I need ARRL RTTY Roundup 1996. results which should appear
in August issue of QST. We operated as T91ENS in Multi Single -
-Low Power category.
Appreciate ur answer !
Boris T93Y (ex T94EU)
E-mail : b.knezovic at zamir-sa.ztn.apc.org
>From n9itx at servco.com (Mike Coolidge) Sat Aug 3 15:19:46 1996
From: n9itx at servco.com (Mike Coolidge) (Mike Coolidge)
Date: Sat, 03 Aug 1996 08:19:46 -0600
Subject: CW NAQP TEAMS
Message-ID: <2.2.32.19960803141946.0067edb8 at servco.com>
This might be too late but WB0OLA will be operating from N9ITX/7 in Montana
for CW NAQP and will be available for a team if needed. So if there are any
SMC teams that need a fill, or any other team, please E-mail me.
Mike Coolidge N9ITX/7
Lewistown, Montana
>From jreid at aloha.net (Jim Reid) Sun Aug 4 01:42:07 1996
From: jreid at aloha.net (Jim Reid) (Jim Reid)
Date: Sat, 03 Aug 1996 14:42:07 -1000
Subject: Thrill of Upgrade!!
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19960804004207.006de4d0 at aloha.net>
Hi all,
A change of subjects is due. How about Elmering a Tech up to
Advanced by e-mail. I just had to share this with all of you
who might be interested in such, otherwise, delete before reading.
If I knew how, I would post this to the rec.radio.amateur.misc and .policy
newsgroups so that all the CW "bad-mouthers" could read it!!
Now I need to get this YL into Contesting! And how about those
other, guys around Denver and Littleton that helped
her out in so many wonderful ways. Wow, what a great hobby!
73, Jim, AH6NB
>Subject: Re: Thank You!!!
>
>Hi, Jim,
>
> Thanks for your heart-felt
>congratulations. You are part of the reason I made it. That is true. You
>inspired me. And I want to thank you. You made the whole hobby real to me.
>I'll always keep the pictures of your yard with antennas going everywhere, how
>they looked after the hurricane, your shack, and the new wire you have going to
>the "neighbor's" yard, to make it longer.
>
>It's been over a month, until yesterday, that I've done ANY code practice. I
>find that once over the 13 wpm hurdle (and boy was it a big one), I have
>retained what I knew, sort of like riding a bike. But whether I can pull it
>together for the 20 wpm by August 18th, I don't know. (Looks like I have 3
>weeks--that's better.) If someone were giving the test August 25th, I could go
>for that one. That would be the 364th day.
>
>I'd have driven you crazy when I was trying to pass my 13 wpm. Be thankful you
>weren't hearing from me then [g]. Although I was practicing a LOT, I just
>wasn't anywhere near 13 wpm. I couldn't even do 9 wpm. And that was 2 days
>before a SPECIAL exam being given to me out of the kindness of the VE team's
>hearts, just one day before my General written exam expired. Literally, the
>NIGHT before the exam, Friday night. getting the code fell into place. It was
>like a miracle. All of a sudden I could just do it. The test was at 9 am
>Saturday morning, and I didn't know if it was a fluke or not. The 3 guys said
>they'd keep giving me tests all day, up until 3 o'clock, when one of them had
>something else he had to do. I had laid a huge downpayment on the kitchen
table
>(given at one of their houses). Turned out I passed on the first try, by
>answering 7 correct answers. We were all jumping for joy! I think they
were as
>happy for me as I was.
>
>Marshall Emm was the person who kept me on the road during all this. I went
>over to his house 4 days before the test, and I couldn't even remember the
>simplest letters at 7 wpm. I was even practicing on a laptop computer another
>ham (Ben Baker KB0UBZ) has loaned me (really, his one and only personal laptop
>computer), because I thought that if I typed instead of writing, maybe I could
>do it since I'm a fast typist.
>
>What set me straight as to what was my problem was a little drill Marshall did
>with me. He was beginning to think I was dyslexic, because, in spite of the
>hundreds and hundreds of hours I had spent trying to learn code, I just wasn't
>getting it. So he sat me down at his house and started dictating letters
to me,
>in English, like M S U B P, etc. He just had me write them down, in English,
>to see if I mixed them up. I didn't. This made me realize that my problem was
>I simply didn't know the code (certain letters--many letters). So I turned on
>Codemaster 5 and started at 5 wpm, on the character/number drill, then did 6
>wpm, then 7 wpm, etc. It wasn't until the day before the test I was doing 13
>wpm. Some barrier was broken.
>
>Is that a long enough story about passing the 13 wpm code?? I have many
hams to
>thank for it. (Sounds like I won a gold metal or something.) But really, you
>helped a lot, Marshall helped, Ben Baker, Dick AB0CD (who just passed his 20
>wpm and became an extra), and the 3 VE's were just incredible to give up their
>Saturday for me--just me--and they didn't even know me.
>
>This is why I like being a ham. The people! You among the very top top
people
>too.
>
>Now, you asked about the rig. All I still have is the 2 meter ICOM handheld.
>Haven't had the funds to get anything else. But Marshall loaned me a 30 meter
>MFJ Econo Keyer II, and even came over and he and Ben hooked it up for me,
>antennas and all, strung across the backyard in trees. And I bought a Bencher
>paddle. Beautiful piece of equipment. Do you have one? I joined the CQC Club
>for QRPing, and that's what I'll be doing once I get going with these
licenses I
>have. As we discussed before, having passed the written tests doesn't mean
much
>of anything, as far as DOING things.
>
>But, do I get on the air. Nope. Hardly ever. I'm set on passing the 20 wpm
>first, against the advice of many.
>How are you doing with your DXing? I'd like to do that too, some day. I did
>participate in Field Day for a short time with the CQC Club. The results
should
>be out soon.
>
>So, Jim, now you know. Your support and kindness has meant a lot to me.
>Thanks! So glad I'll be hearing from you again.
>
>73's,
>Bev
>
>P.S. I'm just now remember another MAJOR contribution you made. You
introduced
>me to Marshall Emm and Codemaster, and without BOTH, I would never have passed
>13 wpm. Remember when you told me about Codemaster 5, and I called the number
>you gave me, jumped in the truck with my two dogs and drove about 20 miles to
>his house to buy the program on a Friday night? I would recommend Codemaster 5
>to anyone who is trying to increase their speed. Okay, I'll REALLY stop now.
>Thanks!
>
>
>From jdowning at intelenet.net (John Downing) Sun Aug 4 06:03:48 1996
From: jdowning at intelenet.net (John Downing) (John Downing)
Date: Sat, 3 Aug 1996 22:03:48 -0700
Subject: 2 Meter Band Explodes
Message-ID: <01BB8187.ADCBC000 at downing-1.intelenet.net>
OK, so this doesn't have a single thing to do with contesting but it is one of the funniest
things I've seen in quite a while. So as we await solar flux numbers north of 150 (or even
70 for that matter!) and the coming HF contest season, here's some fun reading. Since I
rarely post to the reflector, I figure I've used my year's quota of frivolous postings in one fell
swoop.
cheers,
John
N6YRU / V31DX
The Cuba Libre Contest Club
________________________________________________________
THE GEARVAKf BULLETIN
Where the f is silent
Vol. 29 No. 1
TWO METER BAND EXPLODES
-----------------------
[This special report from GEARVAKf New Service arrived at the GEARVAKf
Bulletin just moments ago.]
Mt. Lishnus Observatory, Mt. Idy, Ohio-- In a special news conference just
concluded, Dr. Avruell U. Harnishe, Chairman of the GEARVAKf Scientific
Studies Committee, announced that the two meter amateur radio band has just
exploded. Apparently there has been widespread property damage and injury to
hundreds of hams operating on the band at the time of the explosion. Emergency
rooms report a high incidence of pelvic injuries due to the popularity of the
"shack on a belt" mode of operation. There is also fear of widespread damage
to the nations telephone infrastructure, due to the number of mobile stations
autopatching home (the blast occurred during rush hour) to obtain grocery lists
from their spouses.
The blast came at 5:03 PM EDT and measured about 9.2 on the Richter scale.
According to Dr. Harnishe, the rupture was so violent that some pieces of the
shattered frequencies actually achieved Earth orbit. Other debris from the
massive explosion continues to fall through the ether placing all
radio frequencies at risk of serious damage from collisions with two meter
band fragments.
A statement issued moments ago by the Federal Communications Commission
calls the situation "extremely dangerous." FCC spokesman Ralph R. Spiffee
said that the two meter band had been "blown to smithereens throughout the
nation and perhaps the world." He warned all radio operators to get away from
their radio equipment and stay away until the cloud settles.
"although no deaths have yet been reported among amateurs using two meters
at the time of the blast," Mr. Spiffee said, "I wouldn't be surprised if
there were fatalities." Dr. Harnishe told reporters that it was to early to
assess the long term effects of the disaster, but it was almost certain that
two meters was damaged beyond repair.
"We believe the explosion originated on the West Coast and propagated
rapidly eastward," Dr. Harnishe continued. "The blast was so powerful that
the shock wave made RF frequencies momentarily visible as it passed thru the
air," he said. "The most distressing thing about this tragedy is that it
could have been avoided. Five years ago we warned people that two meters was
going to blow up, but nobody paid attention; now there is no more two meter
band," Harnishe concluded.
In 1991, the Scientific Studies Committee predicted that increased use was
raising pressure within the band because more energy was being put in than
there was being taken out. At that time Dr. Harnishe explained that sensitive
modern receiver circuits required very small amounts of RF to produce a
readable 144 MHz signal and were bleeding off very little RF energy. Much
more RF energy was being transmitted into the band than was being removed
through receivers, so the pressure rose dramatically.
To reduce the pressure, he suggested that all amateur radio operators
listen to two meters for at least six months without transmitting. The no
transmit rule would have allowed most of the overpressure to be reduced
gradually to a safe level. Unfortunately, nobody listened--either to two
meters or to Dr. Harnishe. The result is a disaster of such major proportions
that it makes the 20 meter band fire of nearly a decade ago pale in
comparison.
>From k1iu at ids.net (Jeff Bouvier) Sun Aug 4 10:25:06 1996
From: k1iu at ids.net (Jeff Bouvier) (Jeff Bouvier)
Date: Sun, 04 Aug 1996 06:25:06 -0300
Subject: NAQP CW - the "pse qsy" contest
Message-ID: <199608040625.CAA00380 at pobox.ids.net>
Fellow contesters,
Some subjects are difficult to put in type without getting some
folks upset but that's the way it goes. I guess you can't please all the
people all of the time but I HAVE to unload.
I enjoy the NAQP CW contest very much for a few reasons:
1) it's a CW contest
2) it's low power ( a lot less broad signals on the bands)
3) it's 10 hours ( I turned 51 last week) :-)
One reason I get frustrated during this contest is the constant
requests for qsy's to another band. I guess it was especially bad this year
because ( I suspect ) I was the only RI station on during the contest.
I started the contest late and decided not to put in a serious effort. I
hate to say "no" to people so I did qsy at times for some of the requests
and at times did not because every half dozen qso's someone would want me
to move to some other band. It REALLY gets old very fast. Another thing I
don't quite understand is the fact that so many are using 2 radios and they
have to keep asking people to qsy. I was using 1 radio (my 2nd 940
temporarily passed away), but whether I was using 1 or 2 radios does not
matter. Requests for qsy's still break up any run I may be having and I
really don't want to spend a contest qsy'ing every 5 minutes. Some folks
asked me to go to bands that I knew there was no way we would make the qso
(there was no prop to that part of the country). Others asked me to qsy
without giving any callsign after one of my cq's. I would hit the cq button
again and they would ask again.
There is only 1 guy that I did not mind qsy'ing for and we hit all
6 bands. I owe him big-time.
Now I can understand why some mults don't show up or make a brief
appearance in some contests.
The above comments are not aimed at any one person and I don't want
anyone to take offense. All I'm asking is that you imagine yourself being
asked every 6th, or so , qso to qsy to another band.
Any comments are welcome but save the flames. ( I know I can leave
the radio off but I enjoy contest operating as much as all of you)
73 to all,
Jeff Bouvier k1iu at ids.net
>From paul at sunriselabs.com (Paul Terwilliger) Sun Aug 4 13:34:31 1996
From: paul at sunriselabs.com (Paul Terwilliger) (Paul Terwilliger)
Date: Sun, 04 Aug 96 12:34:31 GMT
Subject: NAQP CW - the "pse qsy" contest
Message-ID: <znr839162071k at sunrise>
K1IU writes:
> One reason I get frustrated during this contest is the constant
> requests for qsy's to another band. I guess it was especially bad this year
> because ( I suspect ) I was the only RI station on during the contest.
To each his own, I guess.
I enjoyed being moved around to different bands. Made me feel like I
was rare (maybe NH _was_ rare this time!). And it's not like bands
were so crowded that a new CQ frequency was hard to come by.
Except for, I think, two cases, I always said yes. (Maybe I'm too easy?)
In these cases, the last-10 meter had just jumped over 120, and I
wanted to ride the burst.
Personally, though, I didn't choose to initiate any QSYing. Even
though it was really tempting to run all 6 baands with you when I
found you late in the 'test!
73,
Paul, NX1H
>From drussell at knox.net (Donald Russell) Sun Aug 4 15:36:17 1996
From: drussell at knox.net (Donald Russell) (Donald Russell)
Date: Sun, 4 Aug 1996 10:36:17 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: NAQP CW - the "pse qsy" contest
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.91.960804103222.9480C-100000 at jasper.knox.net>
I agree Jeff. I think that all requests for a qsy should be done by the
run station and not by the S & P station. I am more willing to qsy if I
ame looking for stations rather than trying to get a run started.
73, Don WA8YRS drussell at knox.net
>From kg5u at hal-pc.org (Dale Martin) Sun Aug 4 16:02:06 1996
From: kg5u at hal-pc.org (Dale Martin) (Dale Martin)
Date: Sun, 4 Aug 1996 10:02:06 -0500
Subject: NAQP CW - the "pse qsy" contest
Message-ID: <01BB81EC.93EF0240 at pm0-60.hal-pc.org>
Jeff,
I agree wholeheartedly with you.
Speaking from a little pistol point of view, I have some feelings about the
QSY business in NAQP:
1. As a little pistol, you are lucky to get the call and exchange across
accurately, much less a query and QRG. While I never asked anyone to
do so, I am sure that with a puny signal like mine, I would get more rejections
to my requests than would a 150w big gun station.
2. As a little pistol, s&p is a way of life. When I find a rare mult (vy1, kp4,
RI!, etc.), I sometimes have to push the OMNI VI band button (another VFO
memory)to look around until the pile thins. Then, I find someone asking
the rare one to QSY, never to be heard from again!!
Otherwise, it was a nice contest and I had a nice time.
73
dale
kg5u
----------
From: Jeff Bouvier[SMTP:k1iu at ids.net]
Sent: Sunday, August 04, 1996 4:25 AM
To: cq-contest at tgv.com
Subject: NAQP CW - the "pse qsy" contest
Fellow contesters,
Some subjects are difficult to put in type without getting some
folks upset but that's the way it goes. I guess you can't please all the
people all of the time but I HAVE to unload.
I enjoy the NAQP CW contest very much for a few reasons:
1) it's a CW contest
2) it's low power ( a lot less broad signals on the bands)
3) it's 10 hours ( I turned 51 last week) :-)
One reason I get frustrated during this contest is the constant
requests for qsy's to another band. I guess it was especially bad this year
because ( I suspect ) I was the only RI station on during the contest.
I started the contest late and decided not to put in a serious effort. I
hate to say "no" to people so I did qsy at times for some of the requests
and at times did not because every half dozen qso's someone would want me
to move to some other band. It REALLY gets old very fast. Another thing I
don't quite understand is the fact that so many are using 2 radios and they
have to keep asking people to qsy. I was using 1 radio (my 2nd 940
temporarily passed away), but whether I was using 1 or 2 radios does not
matter. Requests for qsy's still break up any run I may be having and I
really don't want to spend a contest qsy'ing every 5 minutes. Some folks
asked me to go to bands that I knew there was no way we would make the qso
(there was no prop to that part of the country). Others asked me to qsy
without giving any callsign after one of my cq's. I would hit the cq button
again and they would ask again.
There is only 1 guy that I did not mind qsy'ing for and we hit all
6 bands. I owe him big-time.
Now I can understand why some mults don't show up or make a brief
appearance in some contests.
The above comments are not aimed at any one person and I don't want
anyone to take offense. All I'm asking is that you imagine yourself being
asked every 6th, or so , qso to qsy to another band.
Any comments are welcome but save the flames. ( I know I can leave
the radio off but I enjoy contest operating as much as all of you)
73 to all,
Jeff Bouvier k1iu at ids.net
>From km9p at contesting.com (Bill Fisher, KM9P) Sun Aug 4 16:21:15 1996
From: km9p at contesting.com (Bill Fisher, KM9P) (Bill Fisher, KM9P)
Date: Sun, 4 Aug 1996 11:21:15 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: NAQP CW - the "pse qsy" contest
Message-ID: <199608041521.LAA15935 at paris.akorn.net>
At 10:36 AM 8/4/96 -0400, you wrote:
>I agree Jeff. I think that all requests for a qsy should be done by the
>run station and not by the S & P station. I am more willing to qsy if I
>ame looking for stations rather than trying to get a run started.
No, you guys are arguing with the theme of the contest. Mults count on each
band and if you want to have a chance with some states, a sked or moving
them is the only way you would ever work them.
What do you guys do in the WAE when every European you work asks you for
QTCs? Get pissed and turn off the radio?
Now to Jeff's problem which I can imagine can get old. I asked him to QSY
several times. I dont think he moved once and I still worked him on 6
bands. But when I asked, I had no idea he would be putting in a full time
effort.
What would I do?
1. Try to get more guys on from RI so I wasnt the only one on the air.
Easier said than done.
2. Keep my responses short and sweet to the requests. Like SRI, LTR, or NO.
3. Be happy that guys are asking me to QSY. Lots-O-mults!
73
Bill, KM9P
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>From barry at w2up.wells.com (Barry Kutner) Sun Aug 4 15:31:38 1996
From: barry at w2up.wells.com (Barry Kutner) (Barry Kutner)
Date: Sun, 04 Aug 96 14:31:38 GMT
Subject: Why is IG9 a CQWW mult?
Message-ID: <F425RD1w165w at w2up.wells.com>
Hi all - Can someone who knows tell me why IG9 counts as a separate
country mult in CQWW? I understand it's a different zone and continent
from Italy, but it does not meet distance criteria for separate country
status.
Tnx/Barry
--
Barry N. Kutner, W2UP Internet: barry at w2up.wells.com
Newtown, PA Packet Radio: W2UP @ WB3JOE.#EPA.PA.USA.NA
Packet Cluster: W2UP >WB2R (FRC)
.......................................................................
>From AA6KX at postoffice.worldnet.att.net (Bruce Sawyer) Sun Aug 4 16:30:15 1996
From: AA6KX at postoffice.worldnet.att.net (Bruce Sawyer) (Bruce Sawyer)
Date: Sun, 4 Aug 1996 15:30:15 +0000
Subject: Team Score--NAQP
Message-ID: <19960804153013.AAA17897 at LOCALNAME>
Herewith, the results of our hastily-assembled NAQP team, pulled together
from the all over the country:
Team name: Coast-to-Coasters (with apologies to all for a terrible team
name)
KF3P (MD): 568 x 196 = 111,328 (late start)
K4PQL (NC): 536 x 193 = 102,869 (thunderstorms)
AA6KX (CA): 628 x 158 = 99,224 (no antennas over 30')
N6TV (CA): 558 x 164 = 91,512 (bad line noise)
KK9W (IA): 495 x 138 = 68,310
-------
473,243
Bruce, AA6KX
>From fmart at nil.fut.es (Fernando Martinez) Sat Aug 3 23:24:08 1996
From: fmart at nil.fut.es (Fernando Martinez) (Fernando Martinez)
Date: Sat, 03 Aug 1996 16:24:08 -0600
Subject: EA6IB QSL for last CQ WW 95 CW
Message-ID: <3203D188.5207 at tinet.fut.es>
Hello Contester's.
I received few QSL's of my last operation on multi-single from EA6IB=20
during the last CQ WW 95 in CW.
After checking the Callbook, the address of EA6IB is not ok in the=20
Callbook.
I received last week blank QSL's from EA6IB radio club, then I am able=20
to send the QSL's of this operation.=20
Please send only QSL for contacts of this CQ WW 95 CW, I dont have any=20
other log than the log of this contest.
You can send the QSL to :
Fernando Mart=EDnez
P.O 69=20
L'Ametlla de Mar , 43860.
Tarragona ( SPAIN ).
Sorry for the delay.
73 es DX.
Fernando. EA3KU.
>From hwardsil at wolfenet.com (Ward Silver) Sun Aug 4 16:55:27 1996
From: hwardsil at wolfenet.com (Ward Silver) (Ward Silver)
Date: Sun, 4 Aug 1996 08:55:27 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Why is IG9 a CQWW mult?
Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.95.960804085334.5824D-100000 at gonzo.wolfenet.com>
On Sun, 4 Aug 1996, Barry Kutner wrote:
> Hi all - Can someone who knows tell me why IG9 counts as a separate
> country mult in CQWW? I understand it's a different zone and continent
> from Italy, but it does not meet distance criteria for separate country
> status.
A CQ country (because of the inclusion of continent in the CQ awards
program) is not allowed to straddle continental divisions...the same as
for European and Asian Turkey. Now, if they could just scoot it over into
Zone 34...
73, Ward N0AX
>From k1iu at ids.net (Jeff Bouvier) Sun Aug 4 20:15:40 1996
From: k1iu at ids.net (Jeff Bouvier) (Jeff Bouvier)
Date: Sun, 04 Aug 1996 16:15:40 -0300
Subject: NAQP CW - the "pse qsy" contest
Message-ID: <199608041615.MAA00956 at pobox.ids.net>
>At 10:36 AM 8/4/96 -0400, you wrote:
>>I agree Jeff. I think that all requests for a qsy should be done by the
>>run station and not by the S & P station.
YES!!!
I am more willing to qsy if I
>>ame looking for stations rather than trying to get a run started.
>
>No, you guys are arguing with the theme of the contest. Mults count on each
>band and if you want to have a chance with some states, a sked or moving
>them is the only way you would ever work them.
^^^^
Not really..
>
>What do you guys do in the WAE when every European you work asks you for
>QTCs? Get pissed and turn off the radio?
Wouldn't it be just great if the WAE allowed QTC's only during the
2nd half of the contest ? Rate the first half, combination of rate and
unloading qtc's the 2nd half. Ideal! I say, "no" the first half and unload
the 2nd half.
>
>Now to Jeff's problem which I can imagine can get old. I asked him to QSY
>several times.
I thought the 2nd radio was used to look for mults on other bands.
> I dont think he moved once and I still worked him on 6
>bands. But when I asked, I had no idea he would be putting in a full time
>effort.
When I get into a contest I usually put in a lot of time it's just
a matter of whether I will be agressive or go into the "cruise mode". I felt
bad for saying "no" to you when you asked me on 10m to go to 15m so
when I heard you on 20m asking a W7 in ID (?) to go to 15M I went to
your secret 21055 qrg and you told ME to qrx after I called you while you
called the W7 three times. Sheesh! Furthermore, you have an antenna farm.
What do you think my antenna farm is, an "empty suit". ;-) Did you have any
doubt that we would work on 6 bands? :-)
>
>What would I do?
>
>1. Try to get more guys on from RI so I wasnt the only one on the air.
>Easier said than done.
I really don't want to do that, do I ? :-)
>2. Keep my responses short and sweet to the requests. Like SRI, LTR, or NO.
"NO" sounds good but while the guys are saying, " Can you qsy to
21055?" my pileup just tuned up the band and the rate goes in the dumper.
>3. Be happy that guys are asking me to QSY. Lots-O-mults!
Sure. 200 mults. 201 q's.
Nice to hear from you Bill, now go work on your antennas!
73, Jeff k1iu at ids.net Your RI, no qsy while I'm running, multiplier!
>
>73
>
>Bill, KM9P
>From foggie at dtx.net (foggie) Sun Aug 4 22:46:53 1996
From: foggie at dtx.net (foggie) (foggie)
Date: Sun, 04 Aug 1996 16:46:53 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: NAQP CW - the "pse qsy" contest
Message-ID: <XFMail.960804165512.foggie at dtx.net>
>No, you guys are arguing with the theme of the contest. Mults count on each
>band and if you want to have a chance with some states, a sked or moving
>them is the only way you would ever work them.
>Now to Jeff's problem which I can imagine can get old. I asked him to QSY
>several times. I dont think he moved once and I still worked him on 6
>bands. But when I asked, I had no idea he would be putting in a full time
>effort.
>What would I do?
I have to agree with bill. Of course There is a point in why am I being asked
to QSY when I am running? Had a terrible time here with line noise, and front
end overload on my old kenwood 530. The older yaesu 301d handled it much better
still ended up blowing up everything 9 hours into the contest, and I had
already taken breaks. Had difficulties getting a run going because every 10th
QSO or so I'd be asked to qsy. if it was a mult i needed I at least tried. none
of the qsy's worked out, but I think I managed to work most of those that asked
later on that band. Is louisianna really that rare? :) Probably this test. I
didn't get La till 90% of the way through.
73,
Al - kk5zx
>Bill, KM9P
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>From hwardsil at wolfenet.com (Ward Silver) Sun Aug 4 17:47:07 1996
From: hwardsil at wolfenet.com (Ward Silver) (Ward Silver)
Date: Sun, 4 Aug 1996 09:47:07 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: NAQP CW - the "pse qsy" contest
Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.95.960804094137.4042C-100000 at gonzo.wolfenet.com>
Didn't you know? It's the North American QSY Party!
Maybe we need a "signal" to keep people from asking when you don't want to
move. For example, in Sprint, we've gotten trained to send our call first
when someone responds to our CQ and last when we're responding to a CQ.
What could we send that means "NO QSY" when running that wouldn't slow us
down?
QSY etiquette? Only ask "QSY?" and let the requestee say "NO NA de ...."
for a quick reply without losing the pile. If QSY is OK, then it goes,
"QSY?" "OK" "21055" "R GG", which is a lot better than giving the whole
request at once and doesn't drive away the pileup.
73, Ward N0AX
>From k5na at bga.com (Richard L. King) Sun Aug 4 17:22:53 1996
From: k5na at bga.com (Richard L. King) (Richard L. King)
Date: Sun, 4 Aug 1996 11:22:53 -0500
Subject: More rule problems
Message-ID: <199608041622.LAA02025 at zoom.bga.com>
The discussion about changing the multi-single rules in the ARRL DX Contest
and the problems that rules can create reminded me of something that I
observed during last year's WAE CW Contest. What I am going to describe to
you seems to be allowed within the rules of the WAE contest for a
multi-single station.
Basically the WAE has a 10 minute rule but allows unlimited QSY for
multi-single stations as long as the station worked is a multiplier. Since
my station was multi-single we were running on one band and tuning two other
bands with extra radios looking for mults. It was at night and we were
listening to 20, 40, and 80 meters.
We heard another multi-single station running Europeans on those three
bands. But they were using their multi-op call on 20 meters and the
operators were using their personal calls on 40 and 80 meters. We had enough
radios on to hear all this happening at once.
Then a strange thing happened. A mult came back to the station on 80 meters.
The 80 meter op asked the mult to stand by to work another station. Then the
80 meter op switched to the multi-op call and worked the mult while the 20
meter station that was running paused briefly. Immediately the 80 meter op
switched back to his personal call and continued to call CQ contest. A few
minutes later we noticed the same thing happening at their 40 meter station.
We might never have noticed this except the other multi-op was operating on
the the prime frequencies on the low edge of each band (3501 & 7001 KHz).
Using their personal calls on those frequencies had a secondary advantage;
it kept us from trying those frequencies as our run frequencies and, in
effect, reserved them for their run station when their run station wanted to
QSY.
This is not an indictment of anyone. I believe what was done was COMPLETELY
allowed within the rules. Since the CQ-CONTEST refector is a good place for
peer discussion and peer pressure, I wanted to bring this up here and see
how others felt about the practice. I believe it is another example of what
can be done within some rules for multi-single operating.
73, Richard
K5NA at BGA.COM
>From 0004504465 at mcimail.com (Eugene Walsh) Sun Aug 4 18:53:00 1996
From: 0004504465 at mcimail.com (Eugene Walsh) (Eugene Walsh)
Date: Sun, 4 Aug 96 12:53 EST
Subject: IG9 MULTIPLIER
Message-ID: <54960804175345/0004504465DC2EM at MCIMAIL.COM>
The CQWW rules state that the country lists
of both ARRL DXCC and WAE awards are used to
determine the country multiplier. This is why
IT9, Bear Island and Shetlands count as mults.
In addition, both Turkey and Italy are split
under the WAE rules. Asian Turkey and African
Italy are not allowed as WAE counters, so they
(TA and I) each have 2 separate parts under WAE.
More Mults=More Fun!
73 Gene N2AA
>From k5na at bga.com (Richard L. King) Sun Aug 4 19:21:22 1996
From: k5na at bga.com (Richard L. King) (Richard L. King)
Date: Sun, 4 Aug 1996 13:21:22 -0500
Subject: ARRL CAC input sought
Message-ID: <199608041821.NAA12219 at zoom.bga.com>
>To: k3lr at telerama.lm.com (k3lr)
>From: k5na at bga.com (Richard L. King)
>Subject: Re: ARRL CAC input sought
>
>>The ARRL Contest Advisory Committee (CAC) is currently
>>studying two issues concerning ARRL sponsored contests:
>>
>>PROPOSAL TO MODIFY THE MULTI-SINGLE BAND CHANGE RULE
>
>>The proposed change would replace the 10 minute rule with
>>a new rule allowing 6 band changes per hour.
>
>I don't like this rule change. The original rule was put in to try to
protect the true multi-single efforts (One transmitter/receiver turned on)
from efforts that used multiple stations and octopus setups. The results
were that you now had multi-single stations using multiple transmitters with
octopus setups that simply had to pause 10 minutes before using their advantage.
>
>Now by changing to a more flexible QSY rule of 6 QSYs per hour, these same
complex multi-single stations will be more effective by being allowed a
certain number of quick QSYs as long as they don't exceed the hourly minimum
number specified in an hour (6).
>
>This encourages the multi-single category to use multi-transmitters to
efficiently time-slice their band movement. It would be very easy to hold a
run frequency and move or work spotted multipliers with this new rule. If
that is what you want to do with the category, then fine. I have been there
before and I can compete using compatiable technology.
>
>But I think we are losing sight of the true multi-single. That is a
multi-single where a couple of buddies get together with one radio and
operate the contest. Do we want to move their category further away from
them and make them even less competitive than they are today? Are we hurting
ourselves (contesting) by discouraging this kind of operation? I think we
are and I would like to see rules that create a REAL multi-single category.
>
>>PROPOSAL TO CHANGE THE 160 METER CONTEST EXCHANGE FOR DX STATIONS
>
>>The CAC is discussing the possibility of changing the DX
>>exchange for the 160 meter contest. The change would
>>make the DX exchange RST + power. Just the same as the
>>ARRL DX Contest.
>
>I think I am qualified to comment on this as this is my favorite contest
and I have plugged away at it for over 25 years now. I worked it from Texas
until 1980 and from New York after that until this year. Now I am back in
Texas and I am looking forward to giving it my best effort in the near future.
>
>First, let me say that any change that encourages a QSO in a contest to be
a good QSO is a good rule change. It doesn't make any difference if you are
on the East coast, West coast or Gulf coast, the burden of having a true
2-way exchange is on the shoulders of the contest operator. I have to
believe that having to accurately copy a contest exchange is our
(contesters) strength. If you don't want to do that or don't like to do
that, you are in the wrong part of the hobby.
>
>A few years back the ARRL's log checking was a laugh. With time-tables and
QST schedules, they just didn't have time to do a very good job of going
through the logs. But now, they really have their act together. Using their
computer checking, the ARRL now does an outstanding job of cross-checking
contest logs. So now we might be faced with having to actually copy the DX
stations exchange. This is good because it couldn't possibly be bad.
>
>The East coast will always rule this contest if they get a good European
opening. That is the nature of the beast. I would hate to see it changed to
strictly a SS type contest because I have had some memorable DX QSOs while
doing it. There were years where I worked over 200 European QSOs in the ARRL
160 Contests from New York. It was terrific fun. But now, I don't expect
that from Texas, but it could happen. Who knows? I just plan to give it my
best shot each year and wait for the European opening to fail for the East
coast.
>
>A 160 SS type contest would be fun. But don't use the ARRL 160 contest for
it. It is fine the way it is and I don't mind actually having to copy an
exchange from DX stations.
>
>73, Richard
>
K5NA at BGA.COM
>From 0003426957 at mcimail.com (John Covington) Sun Aug 4 19:14:00 1996
From: 0003426957 at mcimail.com (John Covington) (John Covington)
Date: Sun, 4 Aug 96 13:14 EST
Subject: No subject
Message-ID: <01960804181410/0003426957PL2EM at MCIMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Need RTTY Roundup Results...
T91ENS came in 2nd place in the Roundup Multioperator DX Low
Power category with 31,995 points. IK2ZUT was first with
39,732 points.
73,
John Covington WN4BBJ
(2nd place W/VE Multiop High Power at AA4NC)
>From kf3p at cais.cais.com (Tyler Stewart) Sun Aug 4 21:23:45 1996
From: kf3p at cais.cais.com (Tyler Stewart) (Tyler Stewart)
Date: Sun, 4 Aug 1996 16:23:45 -0400
Subject: NAQP CW - the "pse qsy" contest
Message-ID: <199608042023.QAA08778 at cais.cais.com>
>I agree Jeff. I think that all requests for a qsy should be done by the
>run station and not by the S & P station. I am more willing to qsy if I
>ame looking for stations rather than trying to get a run started.
>
>73, Don WA8YRS drussell at knox.net
>
Just say "No". That's all you have to do. Personally, out of all the requests
for QSY I made, I had fewer than 10 refusals, and probably completed 90 percent
of my passes. Moving is good! It's FUN! It's NAQP! Love it or leave it!
Ciao! Tyler KF3P
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