Yet another Web-Site
WN9JAT at aol.com
WN9JAT at aol.com
Sun Aug 18 13:36:05 EDT 1996
Hi All,
I believe that there must be a physical law that states,
"The amount of memory, disk or ram in a system will
always be exceeded by the amount of material
generated for that system". With that in mind I created
a personal webpage. As you might expect the theme
is DX and contesting with a few other twists. Stop by
the photo album and see if you were caught in the act
at Dayton. I have about a dozen pictures from the
Hamvention. I could use some help with some of the
Hams in the pictures. I know most but not all, so send
me e-mail message if I have someones call wrong or
don't have the person identified. Any comments good or
bad regarding the webpage will be appreciated.
73/Jerry
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>From wb4iuy at ipass.net (Dave Hockaday) Sun Aug 18 18:09:36 1996
From: wb4iuy at ipass.net (Dave Hockaday) (Dave Hockaday)
Date: Sun, 18 Aug 1996 13:09:36 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Cleaning out the shack a bit...
Message-ID: <199608181709.NAA19451 at passport.ipass.net>
I'm in the process of upgrading my shack and am doing a little "thinning
out" of equipment, parts, etc. If interested, look at
http://www.ipass.net/~hockaday/
If you don't have a browser and would like an email with my "for sale" list,
drop me a note at hockaday at ipass.net
Thanks
73 de Dave Hockaday WB4IUY
wb4iuy at ipass.net
http://www.geocities.com/TheTropics/3341/
http://www.ipass.net/~teara/ (soon to be active)
http://www.RTPnet.org/~fcarc/
(alternate) http://www.geocities.com/TheTropics/3212/
http://www.RTPnet.org/~rdrc/
http://www.webbuild.com/~wb4iuy/ (soon to be http://www.ipass.net/~wb4iuy/)
http://www.geocities.com/TheTropics/3489/
http://www.geocities.com/TheTropics/3349/
>From kr4dl at mindspring.com (Steven R. Schmidt) Sun Aug 18 23:03:50 1996
From: kr4dl at mindspring.com (Steven R. Schmidt) (Steven R. Schmidt)
Date: Sun, 18 Aug 1996 18:03:50 -0400
Subject: IOTA Contest submittal
Message-ID: <1.5.4.16.19960818220350.2ba761e0 at atl.mindspring.com>
Does anyone know the format for log submittals in the RSGB IOTA contest?
The rules say non-UK entrants may use log sheets in "local format", whatever
that means. They go on to say "separate log sheets must be used for each
band (but not each mode)." TR Log doesn't print it out that way. Further,
"logs on computer disk are welcomed, in accordance with RSGB format."
Perhaps mine are in the correct format; I have no idea.
Can anyone help me here? And is anyone compiling the results/scores?
Thanks for any help. 73, Steve KR4DL
>From k5na at bga.com (Richard L. King) Sun Aug 18 19:25:29 1996
From: k5na at bga.com (Richard L. King) (Richard L. King)
Date: Sun, 18 Aug 1996 13:25:29 -0500
Subject: TopBand: New contest
Message-ID: <199608181825.NAA19054 at zoom.bga.com>
>It seems that eliminating country multipliers helps equalize things,
>so I vote for that. I would rather not have QSO point values up in
>the thousands!! How about a minimum of 1 QSO point, then another
>QSO point for each additional 500 KM? So, 499 KM would be 1 point,
>501 KM would be two points. 1000 KM would be 3 points and so on.
>
>A "typical" QSO between W1 land and the west coast would then be
>worth 9 or 10 QSO points. A QSO between N6TR (CN) and JA1AA (PM)
>would be worth 16 points. N6TR to OK2FD (JN) is 18 points and
>A W1 in Mass (FN) to OK2FD is 13 points. N6TR to VK3 (QF) is 27
>points.
>
>Thoughts?
>
>Tree
I would do it this way. No multipliers. The QSO value would be based on your
grid square alpha characters and would increase as you moved away from your
location in a ring around your location. For example:
A station in EM54 works a station in EM09 for a 1 point QSO.
The station in EM54 works a station in DN91 (the next ring of alpha grid
squares out) for a 2 point QSO.
Next the station in EM54 works works a station in EO52 (the 2nd ring out)
for a 3 point QSO.
We may want to experiment with the QSO point values for each of the rings.
Instead of 1, 2, 3, etc points, we may want 1, 3, 5, etc points or 2, 4, 6,
etc points. Take a test log from the east coast, midwest, and west coast for
the same 160M contest and see how their results would compare. Try to use
near identical setups for the comparision.
73, Richard
K5NA at BGA.COM
http://www.realtime.net/~k5na
>From k6sti at n2.net (Brian Beezley) Sun Aug 18 19:33:44 1996
From: k6sti at n2.net (Brian Beezley) (Brian Beezley)
Date: Sun, 18 Aug 1996 11:33:44 -0700
Subject: Topband Distance Competition
Message-ID: <199608181833.LAA20602 at ravel.n2.net>
N6TR:
>I am worried about 1,000 and more points per QSO - just gets messy from
>a log format perspective and I only have two spaces allocated for
>QSO points. I don't know if it would cause CT or NA any problems.
K6STI:
OK, good reason to limit it. According to MINIPROP, the maximum short-path
QSO length (antipodal) is 20016 km. How about each QSO being worth km/200
points (round the division), with a maximum of 99 and a minimum of 1?
N6TR:
>Here is my last paragraph (and first?) arguing for RST... a lot of people
>don't think the QSO is valid without it. Also, it has been aruged that
>it gives you a "sync" pulse for getting the exchange. I don't feel
>very strong about it, so I can be talked out of it - but just wanted
>you to know why I suggested it that way.
K6STI:
I think it's high time to dump RST. Let people kick the habit and learn to
live without it. If you feel a sync pulse is needed, send the grid square
twice. If the RST sent really represented signal strength, it might be
interesting and useful. I tried this for an hour in the ARRL 160m test a
couple years ago just for sport. It confused people and wasn't worth the
trouble. A boilerplate 5NN is utterly pointless. Ever listen to the
disgruntled OFs bitch and moan on 20m SSB after a contest has disrupted
their daily geriatric reports? They always bring up phony RST exchanges as
definitive evidence that contesters are crazy. Well, they may have one foot
in another world but on this point I think they're right!
Brian Beezley, K6STI
k6sti at n2.net
>From km9p at contesting.com (Bill Fisher, KM9P) Sun Aug 18 21:15:43 1996
From: km9p at contesting.com (Bill Fisher, KM9P) (Bill Fisher, KM9P)
Date: Sun, 18 Aug 1996 16:15:43 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: TopBand Distance Contest
Message-ID: <199608182015.QAA18948 at paris.akorn.net>
OK... N6TR is working on a first draft of the rules.
I would like to hear from anyone who would be interested in doing some work
for the contest. If you are interested, please email me.
We need help with the following:
1. Checking logs. Tree supplies software.
2. Awards: Getting awards together and out in a timely manner. May be 2
jobs. One person gets awards printed, another gets them made out and shipped.
3. Announcements. Someone to coordinate announcements to the magazines &
newsletters.
4. Prizes: Someone to seek donations for prizes.
5. Club liaisons: I would like 1 person from each of the major contesting
clubs to act as a simple point of contact for info regarding the contest.
Basically you read some mail from time to time.
Thanks
Bill
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>From floydjr at Interpath.com (Jimmy R. Floyd) Sun Aug 18 19:03:59 1996
From: floydjr at Interpath.com (Jimmy R. Floyd) (Jimmy R. Floyd)
Date: Sun, 18 Aug 1996 15:03:59 -0300
Subject: NAQP CW 96 Scores FINAL POSTING
Message-ID: <2.2.16.19960818180359.0b4773e4 at interpath.com>
NAQP 96 CW
Raw Scores
Compiled by
>> WA4ZXA <<
floydjr at interpath.com
Date posted: 08/18/96
FINAL POSTING
CALL SCORE QSO'S MULTI
------------------------------------------------------------
SINGLE OPERATOR
N4ZZ 188,191 817 223
KM9P 177,310 745 238
NM5M 150,021 711 211
K0RF 149,100 700 213
VE3EJ 132,060 620 213
K9MMS 126,016 704 179
N4OGW/9 123,004 644 191
AD5Q 118,767 649 183
K7UP (KN5H) 115,478 638 181
K1ZX 115,000 599 192
W5NN (KB5YVT) 114,211 631 181
NA5Q 114,145 617 185
K5GA 113,883 609 187
KF3P 111,328 568 196
AC1O/4 110,048 608 181
N5DX 109,824 572 192
WA2SRQ 108,519 593 183
KC4ZV 107,835 553 195
AB4RX 105,138 594 177
W1WEF 103,713 573 181
K4PQL 102,869 535 193
N0AT 100,040 611 164
N0AX 99,288 591 166
AA6KX 99,224 628 158
AA3B 98,484 566 174
K4LTA 97,680 528 185
K1VUT 96,492 561 172
AB6FO 95,004 546 174
WX0B 93,537 547 171
N4YOS 92,017 551 167
N6TV 91,512 558 164
K9BG 90,825 525 173
WB5B 90,100 530 170
K4IQJ 89,180 490 182
WR3O 87,348 502 174
NX1H 81,836 499 164
KM0L 79,707 489 163
AB5LX 78,186 498 157
AA4NC (KI4HN) 77,989 467 167
K0RC 75,604 461 164
KZ8E 75,198 498 151
WA6KUI 75,198 453 166
WF3T 74,998 487 154
N5CT/7 72,065 497 145
N6KI 69,690 505 138
KK9W 68,310 495 138
AA0OB 67,896 492 138
WA8YRS 67,200 448 150
AA9AX 64,684 412 157
WA0I 63,840 456 140
WA7BNM 59,640 420 142
N8AAT 56,400 400 141
WD4AHZ 54,576 379 144
W5ASP 54,496 417 130
K8NZ 53,802 366 147
KB8N 52,272 403 129
WN3K 52,122 357 146
K7NPN 47,795 395 121
AC4ZO 47,190 363 130
N5RP 43,896 354 124
KE7GH 43,200 450 96
KG5U 39,625 317 125
WB0OLA/7 (@N9ITX) 36,192 348 104
AE0M 34,542 342 101
W7MAP 31,800 256 100
W6MVW 18,900 210 90
W4CN (KI4DC) 17,836 182 98
KJ4VH 16,160 202 80
AL7PT 15,738 183 86
KK5ZX 14,000 175 80
K0EJ 9,900 165 60
WA7UVJ 9,198 146 63
KJ6HO 4,800 96 50
MULIT-OP
W5WMU 166,242 807 206
WB5VZL (@W5KFT) 158,108 841 188
N2NU 145,920 760 192
TEAM SCORES
Coast-to-Coasters 473,243
Latex Rookies 142,292
OPERATORS IN MULIT-OP
W5WMU W5WMU,KZ5D
WB5VZL KT5V,N5HD,WB5VZL
N2NU WW2Y,KZ2S,N2NU,K2WI
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
PLEASE NO ATTACHED FILES!!!
73's Jim
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* *
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* Packet Node: >> N4ZC << *
* Internet Address: >> floydjr at interpath.com << *
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>From aa9ax at iglou.com (Steven Sample) Sun Aug 18 23:20:35 1996
From: aa9ax at iglou.com (Steven Sample) (Steven Sample)
Date: Sun, 18 Aug 1996 18:20:35 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: OOps!!
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.93.960818181857.1905A-100000 at iglou2>
On Fri, 16 Aug 1996, R.B. Vallio wrote:
> On Fri, 16 Aug 1996, Al Gritzmacher wrote:
>
> >
> > My question is: was his Dad mad at him for scratching the car and was he old
> > enough to drive?? My 10-year old writes and spells better than this guy.
> > Maybe it's an English-as-Second-Language problem... I didn't see a callsign,
> > so I can't tell.
> >
> > I think he should put the KEYS in the trunk when he puts the antenna on!!!
> >
> > ============================================================================
> > Al Gritzmacher AE2T Internet: ae2t at localnet.com
> > WWW: http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/ae2t/
> > Liason: Alternate mail adresses:
> > Lockport Amateur Radio bc510 at freenet.buffalo.edu
> > Volunteer Examiner Team ae2t at postoffice.worldnet.att.net
> > 76100.3670 at compuserve.com
> > ============================================================================
> > Radio Shack: You've got questions - We've got dumb looks.
> >
> > "Invisible airwaves crackle with life, Bright antenna bristle with the energy."
> > - Rush "The Spirit of Radio" (or if you prefer - Catherine Wheel)
> >
> >
> Mr. Gritzmacher,
>
> I suggest to you that you should look seriously inward and determine
> why you felt it necessary to publicly vilify the gentleman who
> wrote to the members of this reflector for a suggestion to solve a
> problem he had.
>
> As a representative of your VE group, you must be greatly admired for
> your dedication to amateur radio. It's too bad there is not a way
> for your posting to be presented to each of the other members, so
> they could have the opportunity to learn even more ways in which
> you are to be admired.
>
> Please do yourself, and the several thousand who read this reflector,
> a favor; cancel your subscription.
>
>
>
> Bob Vallio - W6RGG wsixrgg at crl.com
>
I share your thoughts, but couldn't have stated them so eloquently.
Steve/AA9AX>
>
>
>From km9p at contesting.com (Bill Fisher, KM9P) Sun Aug 18 23:27:14 1996
From: km9p at contesting.com (Bill Fisher, KM9P) (Bill Fisher, KM9P)
Date: Sun, 18 Aug 1996 18:27:14 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Carib activity in CQWW?
Message-ID: <199608182227.SAA21472 at paris.akorn.net>
N4WW my be looking for a place to operate in the Carib for CQWW either mode.
If anyone needs an op, please email Austin at n4ww at aol.com
73
Bill
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>From no2tj at buttercup.cybernex.net (Jerry) Mon Aug 19 02:46:17 1996
From: no2tj at buttercup.cybernex.net (Jerry) (Jerry)
Date: Sun, 18 Aug 1996 21:46:17 -0400
Subject: Sartg 1996
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19960819014617.0069b9e8 at bc.cybernex.net>
Call used: NO2T
Location: NJ
Entry Class: Single Op, All Band High Power
Band QSOs Pts Dist DX
80 35 360 9 8
40 106 1215 14 26
20 294 3615 15 48
15 21 210 7 6
10 2 15 2 1
----- ---- ---- ---- ----
Total 458 5415 47 89
Score: 736440
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Claimed Score: 736440
Power Output: 800
Tribander @ 50 feet + Dipole 40 and inverted L on 80 meters
I love the increased participation each year. How do Ron and
Don(AA5AU) do it. They get off to a terrific start and leave us in the dust.
My personal competition is a local N2DL. We played leap frog
allweeekend. Whether you win or lose it is fun playing the game. Sometime
next week my heart will settle down. I love contests! Wish there was more time.
> Thanks to all for the points and if I stepped on anybody,
I'm sorry. The only excuse is the heat of the battle or the front to back
ratio of my antennas.
73 SK ( for now) NO2T
<Jerry not Gerald>
no2tj at bc.cybernex.net
>From desmith at Telalink.Net (Doug Smith) Mon Aug 19 02:50:26 1996
From: desmith at Telalink.Net (Doug Smith) (Doug Smith)
Date: Sun, 18 Aug 1996 20:50:26 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: TopBand: New contest
Message-ID: <199608190150.UAA07865 at eve.telalink.net>
Just consider this a vote in favor of the concept of using grid squares in a
HF contest..
Personally, I'm partial to the idea of simply using 4-character squares as
multipliers. There are enough of them to make things interesting (both for
"geographically challenged" W9/W0 ops and the "geographically advantaged"
W1/W2/W3 types); they make for a challenging but rational exchange; and
since CT already supports grid-square multipliers for VHF contests, coding
software to support such a contest should be relatively easy. Leave QSO
points at a simple one point per QSO, regardless of QTH.
73 Doug W9WI
Douglas E. Smith W9WI/4 desmith at Telalink.net
1385 Old Clarksville Pike (preferred for long files)
Pleasant View, TN 37146-8098 USA -or-
(615) 746-5205 72777.3143 at compuserve.com
(preferred for time-critical info)
>From n4xm at iglou.com (Paul D. Schrader) Mon Aug 19 03:30:00 1996
From: n4xm at iglou.com (Paul D. Schrader) (Paul D. Schrader)
Date: Sun, 18 Aug 96 22:30 EDT
Subject: Zoning Boards
Message-ID: <1.5.4.16.19960818222647.2a4f945e at iglou.com>
>Date: Sat, 17 Aug 1996 16:43:23
>To: towertalk at contesting.com
>From: n4xm at iglou.com (Paul D. Schrader)
>Subject: Zoning Boards
>
>This is really true--may it help someone.
>
>Many years ago we faced the zoning problems locally and I addressed
>the Planning and Zoning board about the safety issue (and other
>issues).
>
>I pointed out that they now have the authority to make sure things
>are safe under the BOCA code and that there was no reason to single
>out amateur radio towers. In fact I pointed out that it was out and
>out discrimination when telephone poles, church steeples and TREES
>had no rules. I pointed out to them that trees will cause more damage
>than towers if they should fall BECAUSE THEY WEIGH MORE. I also pointed
>out that no one makes a structural analysis of a tree. I also mentioned
>that I could show them examples of very large half dead trees hanging over
>streets.
>
>Don't give in on this.
>
>ARRL was made aware of our ability to convince the locals here and we have
>no requirement at all except for FAA and FCC rules.
>
>I am a registered Professional Electrical Engineer.
>
>We all want things safe, but discrimination is another story. Every time I
>make an antenna speech at a local radio club I remind them about this, and
>how we are all in this together: don't allow anyone to put up a tower system
>that is not proper in all respects.
>
> 73,
>
> Paul N4XM
>
>
>From n4xm at iglou.com (Paul D. Schrader) Mon Aug 19 03:30:00 1996
From: n4xm at iglou.com (Paul D. Schrader) (Paul D. Schrader)
Date: Sun, 18 Aug 96 22:30 EDT
Subject: Zoning Boards
Message-ID: <1.5.4.16.19960818222643.2a4f24ce at iglou.com>
Steve - I visited at ARRL in person and talked to them about this at some
length in 1980. I'm not sure but believe I may have even left an audio tape-
not sure. The other parts of this are to get everyone available to participate
with you at public and non-public meetings. Get the civil defense officials,
Red Cross officials, etc. to be there and write support letters etc. I used an
impressive tornado helpout award plaque presented to a local ham club by the
local
government folks to show that we were the good guys, and wondered (to them)
what we would be if THEY didn't do what was right. We presented a total
unified package
of all the hams being together, including lawyer help and presentations etc.
The
Stanford Research Institute, August 1966 SRI Project No. M-5436 was used also.
One very key point--tell them what you want--the whole banana--not a compromise,
and WRITE up the whole thing for them. Do their work for them!
We wrote it as meeting FAA and FCC rules. (Some CBer's didn't like that.) And
there was no requirements for permits or inspections; they don't inspect the
other things-like trees-so why us? Remind them that they already have the
power to
take care of anything unsafe per the BOCA code, and we all want things safe.
Remind them towers are not permanent structures-they leave when people move.
There was also some concern about guy wires in the front yards. I told them few
hams would do this, but that I didn't know what the big deal was as the power
company had put three of their guy wires in my front yard.
I also explained to them that there was less chance of TVI, etc. with higher
towers.
A key point was that if height were limited then the ham would use a bigger
antenna
to compensate--spending the same amount of money--and this would be worse, not
better, for everyone.
Distances from property lines? Doesn't make sense unless you do it for
everything-
like trees. Don't allow discrimination. Take a firm stand. Don't compromise.
Take it up the ladder in the legal system if necessary. If we don't stand
up for
our rights without discrimination who is?
Realize that this was for a county wide and city wide type of thing-not
subdivisions.
I don't believe in compromises. When I made the joint clubs presentation, I
had all
the answers and all the backing and support. And I used them all! And it
was a TEAM
effort by a large amount of people. And by the way I have all the
credentials you
would ever need and that may have impressed them some.
I hope this is what you wanted. If not I've got all the answers.
Check around headquarters for the old information.
Questions?
73 Paul N4XM----and yes I make XMatch Antenna Tuners.
At 07:32 AM 8/18/96 -0400, you wrote:
>
>Hi Paul. I frequently appear before zoning boards and appeals boards on
>behalf
>of local hams.
>
>Your approach is an interesting one and I wonder if I could talk you into
>putting your
>thoughts/approach into writing so I can pass it on to other League officials
>who
>do the "tower" circuit.
>
>Thanks for both helping other hams and working to keep our hobby alive.
> -73- Steve Mendelsohn, WA2DHF , ARRL 1st Vice President
>
>
>From n4xm at iglou.com (Paul D. Schrader) Mon Aug 19 04:16:00 1996
From: n4xm at iglou.com (Paul D. Schrader) (Paul D. Schrader)
Date: Sun, 18 Aug 96 23:16 EDT
Subject: TopBand: New contest
Message-ID: <1.5.4.16.19960818231240.2a4fa9e2 at iglou.com>
RST keys you mentally for the "good stuff", like the police "10" code.
The CQ contest is not a new contest and I don't consider it a DX contest
regardless of what they call it. I guess I'm having trouble seeing what this
additional contest as proposed will accomplish as compared to any of the
existing ones except for giving the East and West coasts an even bigger edge
than they now have for the DX stations.
The present contests make contacts suitable for WAS awards and identify stations
from a state standpoint to assist participants in that regard.
73 Paul N4XM (in KY)
At 05:47 AM 8/18/96 -0700, you wrote:
>>I like RST also in the exchange. I really think
>>activity will be low if it's primarily a DX contest.
>
>
>What purpose does RST serve?
>
>The scoring system of the CQ WW 160-meter DX contest which awards five times
>the number of points for DX QSOs as domestic has tons of domestic activity.
>
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>Brian Beezley, K6STI
>k6sti at n2.net
>
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>From ae2t at localnet.com (Al Gritzmacher) Mon Aug 19 06:13:20 1996
From: ae2t at localnet.com (Al Gritzmacher) (Al Gritzmacher)
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 01:13:20 -0400
Subject: OOps - An apology.
Message-ID: <199608190507.BAA08903 at buffalo1.localnet.com>
Apparently, I am the only one struck by the irony of the same lack of care
in composing a message requesting help from the reflector as the lack of
care in parking a car with an antenna on it, causing the request in the
first place.
No offense was intended by my attempt to point that out. My reply was
flippant, disrespectful and ill-advised. I am sorry that the composition of
the original message caused me to not take it seriously as it was meant.
Please do to my message as I should have, in the first place, and hit the
delete key.
I have apologized personally to Alex, WB6AFJ, and do so again publicly. My
guess that English was not his native language was correct, he is fluent in
a number of them. He must have lived in a number of places around the world
and must have a wealth of experience to offer. He certainly has many friends
on this reflector who have filled my in-box in his defense.
Alex, again, I am sorry if I offended you. I empathize with the sick feeling
of wiping out an antenna, I have done it myself, although not with an
expensive HF antenna. I've watched mag-mounts bounce in the rear-view mirror
as they left a series of dings in my car and I've had whips with multiple
kinks in them from garages, parking ramps, etc. Lately, I'd be happy just to
have room to get into my garage!
I hope we can take a step back and laugh ABOUT this. I do not laugh at you
or at your expense. Just a situation we've all been in once.
To all on the reflector, sorry about the bandwidth, lets get back to CONTESTING.
73, Al AE2T
ae2t at localnet.com
>From Ingemar.Fogelberg at cec.comm.se (Ingemar Fogelberg) Mon Aug 19 08:12:00 1996
From: Ingemar.Fogelberg at cec.comm.se (Ingemar Fogelberg) (Ingemar Fogelberg)
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 09:12:00 +0200
Subject: ARRL ftp-server and logs
References: <199608181149.NAA02028 at uno.canit.se>
Message-ID: <321813C0.65FD at cec.comm.se>
Torgny wrote:
>
> Hello.
>
> Anyone out there has any experience regarding the ARRL and their
> service regarding submitting logs via ftp? I sent in our IARU-log
> a week ago and still hasn't received any confirmation that they
> have received it. Should I expect a confirmation? Am I better off
> using the good old way via snail mail?
>
> /Torgny - SM0TXT
WARNING!
I submitted an IARU-log to contest at arrl.org and didn't get a
reply in two weeks. When sending another mail asking if they had
got it they said there was no log to be found! Since I didn't got
any reply on my mail i suppose that ARRL mail server has problem.
Or maybe the problem was that I first submitted the log in zip-format.
Does anyone know if ARRL are able to receive attachments in
zip-format?
73 de Ingo SM0AJV
>From trey at cisco.com (Trey Garlough) Mon Aug 19 08:49:50 1996
From: trey at cisco.com (Trey Garlough) (Trey Garlough)
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 09:49:50 +0200
Subject: Contest Laptops
Message-ID: <199608190749.JAA07153 at pwallema-sun.cisco.com>
> Sorry to have to do this, but I get no response from
> "cq-contest-request at tvg.com". Could someone help unsubscribe from this list?
>
> Sorry for the increase in S/N, I know I hate it when other people do this.
The reason you are having trouble unsubscribing is because you are not
subscribed. Please send me a note explaining what other username or
node name you may have been using when you subscribe, that may now be
forwarding your mail to you, and I'll help you try to solve your problem.
Since you know that cq-contest at tgv.com is the wrong place to post this
type of message, why did you do it anyhow? The correct place to send
such messages is to the list manager (me), trey at cisco.com.
--Trey, WN4KKN
>From trey at cisco.com (Trey Garlough) Mon Aug 19 09:11:07 1996
From: trey at cisco.com (Trey Garlough) (Trey Garlough)
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 10:11:07 +0200
Subject: New 160 Contest
Message-ID: <199608190811.KAA07162 at pwallema-sun.cisco.com>
> >I, too, think it should have the word "distance" in it, since that's the
> >whole idea. How about something like
> >
> >
> > "Topband Distance Challenge"
> >
> > "Topband Distance Contest"
> >
> > "Topband Distance Competition"
> >
How about YA1C? (Yet Another 160 Contest)
--Trey, WN4KKN
>From Werner.Maier at rrze.uni-erlangen.de (Werner Maier) Mon Aug 19 12:01:07 1996
From: Werner.Maier at rrze.uni-erlangen.de (Werner Maier) (Werner Maier)
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 11:01:07 MET
Subject: (1)RE: KT-34A SWR problems
Message-ID: <151282DFA at isis.rrze.uni-erlangen.de>
Hi there.
I wish to thank all those amateurs who responded to my mail.
I got a lot response concerning "let me know all you got", so it's
probably better to send it to the list again.
At the very bottom You'll find some reply to those mails.
first of all, here's my mail again:
-------------------- cut here ---------------------------
> Thanks in advance for reading and probably replying.
>
> I recently bought an used KT34A that has been up for last summer.
>
> I just build it up again (I had only to mount the elements to the
> boom, the elements have been mounted before).
>
> It now is about 4 meters above roof, maybe 15..20 meters above
ground
> level. The roof is about 60 degrees, so the beam should have enough
> "free air" aorund. There are no buildings high enough to
> disturb nearer than 200m round our building.
>
> Now let's go to the problem:
>
> I measured the VSWR:
>
> a) 10m: there are no problems at all, VSWR better 1:1.5 from 28.0 to
> 28.7 mc, above slightly increasing to about 1:2 @ 29.7 mc
>
> b) 15m: there is a problem, I think: VSWR 1:2.0 @ 21 mc increasing
to
> 1:3.0 @ 21.450 mc. I'm just wondering why the Beam shows a
> VSWR below 1:1.5 @ 20.3 - 20.7 mc, that's what I would have
> exspected maybe 500 kc above...
>
> c) 20m: the symptom is similar to 15m: VSWR is somewhat higher than
> expected and a VSWR similar to the diagram shown in the
> mounting manual may be found about 500 kc below 14 mc.
>
> The VSWRs move slightly according to the beam directing in an normal
> range (i.e. +- 0.2); this should be normal according to the roof, I
> think.
>
> Now let's ask some questions:
>
> 1. Did anyone using the KT34A have the same problems, and how did
he
> solve it?
>
> 2. Does anyone have more precise manuals than the original
> mounting manuals explaining how to tune the beam
> (i.e. 100kc @ 21 mc = xxx inches)
>
> 3. Does anyone know email or web addresses of KLM ?
>
> 4. I have read an article concerning the KT34XA, written by DL1BU
> for the German CQ-DL magazine, issue October 1980.
> There he wrote something about problems he had with the
capacitor
> tubes because problems of KLM. After mounting the new parts
> with blue caps, all problems were gone.
>
> So what? I have blue capacitor caps.
>
> Also, I've heard rumours about problems with some KT34As sold
> last one or two years having the same problem with the
capacitors.
> In those rumours KLM is said to send FAXs with tuning
instructions
> while in the meantime already sending the right capacitors out,
> i.e. while already knowing the problem.
>
> If so, I would concider not spend hours and hours climbing on my
> roof or mast, but I would better be waiting for spare parts.
>
>
> Thank You all in advance for any useful comments.
>
>
> best 73s de Werner DL4NER.
-------------------- cut here ---------------------------
Now there are all replys:
- From: Tony Brock-Fisher <fisher at hp-and2.an.hp.com>
- To: Werner Maier <Werner.Maier at rrze.uni-erlangen.de>
- Subject: Re: KT-34A VSWR problems
-
- Werner-
-
- I've had two KT-34XA's up , one for several years.
-
- 1. You bought the antenna used, and merely reassembled it. I think
maybe
- you should have rebuilt it. Did you check that all the straps were
tight
- and properly installed? Was Penetrox used to assemble it? When I
took
- one of mine down, I measured all contact resistances and found the
- strap at the very end of the tip of the trombone sections to be
- the weak link.
-
- 2. I had 7 out of 40 blue capacitor caps cracked. I called KLM and
- talked to Bruce. They have no web page as yet. He said the cracking
- was caused by only 3 things: installation with hammer, use of
solvents/oils,
- or bad lot of plastic. He sent me replacement set free.
-
- 3. As for capacitor tubes, only change I know of was going from
ones with
- little drain holes in them to ones without. This, and changes in
tube
- cap plastic material from green to blue, necessitated measurement
- changes.
-
- 4. Does SWR change as you rotate? I have found antenna to be
sensitive to
- nearby objects, i.e. 27' guy wire sections. If so, SWR will change
- as you rotate. Also, antenna may just be shifted low in frequency
because
- of close proximity (4 meters) to roof, which may look like ground.
-
- In return, I'd be very interested in any info you get, and also the
- article you refer to.
-
- -Tony, K1KP, fisher at hp-and2.an.hp.com
-
-------------------- cut here ---------------------------
-
- From: Ed Privette <ED-AB4PY at postoffice.worldnet.att.net>
- Subject: Re: KT-34A VSWR problems
-
- At 11:02 8/16/96 +0000, you wrote:
-
- I just did the same thing Werner, bought a used KT-34A, about 8
years old
- and it is ok on 10/15 but the swr on 20m is about 3:1 and the
resonant freq
- is 14.5mhz.
-
- Please forward all the replies you receive, it mite help me also.
-
- Mni thanks and 73s de ed
-
- -------------------- cut here ---------------------------
-
- Subject: Re: KT-34A VSWR problems
- From: k6ll at juno.com (David O. Hachadorian)
-
- Hi Werner,
-
- The easiest way to troubleshoot a KT-34 or XA is to take
- a DC ohmmeter and measure the resistance between the
- 15 meter capacitor can to the 10 meter capacitor can on
- each element half. This one measurement tests _every_ joint
- in the entire trap assembly. You should see about 0.5 ohm
- if all of the connections are clean and tight (after
- subtracting the resistance of the ohmmeter leads).
-
- There should be no need to vary from the recommended
- factory settings, unless the antenna is coupling to
- nearby objects. In that case, try to move the object
- or the KT-34.
-
- Good luck. Let me know how you make out.
-
- Dave, K6LL
- k6ll at juno.com
-
- -------------------- cut here ---------------------------
-
- To: Werner Maier <Werner.Maier at rrze.uni-erlangen.de> (Werner Maier)
- From: k7rls at nettally.com (Christie, Mike)
- Subject: Re: KT-34A VSWR problems
-
- Hey Werner,
-
- Check your element alignment.
-
- Are they all nice and neat with everybody pointed in the same
direction,
- like God intended? Or, are they rolled over and opposing eachother,
the way
- KLM intended?
-
- My is like "God's intention" and my SWR on 20m and 15m are high
[just like
- your KT34A] and flat on 10m [because it is full-size and there is no
- capactive loading]. Mine still works and works very well on 15 and
20m, but
- I have to tune the higher SWR out with my antenna tuner. If the
elements
- were opposing [ala KLM], 15 and 20m my KT-34A would be as flat as a
board, hi.
-
- This is my third installation of the antenna and my "helpers"
aligned the
- elements to look pretty, hi. Previously, they were opposing and
flat, flat,
- flat.
-
- Might help?
-
- 73,
-
- mike, k7rls/4
-
- k7rls at nettally.com
-
- -------------------- cut here ---------------------------
-
- From: "Douglas L. Klein" <WD8AUB at IX.NETCOM.COM>
- To: Werner Maier <Werner.Maier at rrze.uni-erlangen.de>
- Subject: Re: KT-34A VSWR problems
-
- One comment (from a former KT34A owner) is that you should make
DOUBLE
- certain you put the elements on the boom in the right place, the
right
- order, and that the traps are FACING the right direction. That is
- critical. And it makes a difference if the elemements are upside
down.
- The weep holes are DOWN.
-
- And the phasing straps and driven element must be connected
correctly.
-
- I have seen SWR problems when I took it down, and later put it back
up
- with the front and rear driven elements backwards. Or the traps
facing
- the wrong directions.
-
- Does that help any?
-
- 73 Doug WD8AUB
-
- -------------------- cut here ---------------------------
Now lets spend some time with comments to all those replys:
The Article:
------------
The German Amateur Radio Club (DARC) offers a monthly issue of a
magazine, the CQ-DL. It may be comparable to the CQ-Magazine or
others,
too.
DL1BU has testet lots of antennas and HF- or VHF- equipement and
published all those in that magazine. In 1980, Issue 10, there is a
very
long test of the KT-34X and the KT-34XA, about 11 pages, and all in
German.
This article does not compares the KT34 to other tribanders, but it
shows
how this antenna works, how loading is done, and somewhat more...
And this article is full of smith charts and SWR diagrams showing a
false SWR because he had trouble with the capatitor tubes and got the
right ones just some weeks before the cq-dl 10/1980 should leave
printing, so he has not been able to repeat all measurements in that
time. But he wrote, the antenna did work well, just as he build it up
with the right capacitor tubes.
......................................................................
The element alignment:
----------------------
I just build the antenna like the previous owner of it. He signed
every
element like that: "direct. l", "direct. r", "refl. l", "refl. r",
and so
on. So I'm very sure that I've the build the antenna the same way HE
did.
I was wondering why the elements looked somewhat strange to me, some
of
the "traps" seemed to look forward, some backward, so I took the
manual
and have seen, that this IS wanted by KLM, so I put the elements
together the way it is shown in the manual.
......................................................................
Capacitor Caps:
---------------
mine are blue and all seemed to be intact, but I did not control
everything exactly.
......................................................................
DC-Ohm meter:
-------------
This might be a very good Idea. Thanks.
......................................................................
Plans for the Future:
---------------------
Our roof is about ten meter long and at one end (about 1.5m) the mast
for the KT-34A is mounted. at the very other end, maybe 8m away,
there's
a second mast holding VHF equipement.
So moving the KT34 or moving other objects (the house... hi) is not
possible.
A) --------------------- kt 34
!
!
!
!
! 4m
!
B) !
/\ ! <-- about 12..15m above ground
/ ! -----
/ ! \
/ ! \
/ ! 2m \
/ ! \
------------------------
/ \
I think, I will take the KT34 down at roof level (B) and measure the
VSWR again and compare it to (A). Then I will measure all distances
(elements at the boom and trap distances) and compare those to the
mounting manual. After that I will know more and decide what to do.
Thanks all for Your help and don't expect a success mail to early,
I do not know, when I will have the time to do all this. But mast
climbing is a nice hobby, too. Ever tried ?? ;-)
Best regards.
73 es gd dx.
Werner DL4NER.
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