About non mult qsos worked on mult stn (CQWW multi-single)
pasi.luoma_aho at sysopen.fi
Mon Dec 2 10:57:21 EST 1996
Bill, KM9P & K4AAA wrote:
> Same thing happened to me (sorta). I found IQ4A calling CQ TEST MULT de
> IQ4A IQ4A. Well, I had to be a multiplier right? He worked me with someone elses callsign.
Very interesting. And if you happened to work them again when their
running station finally was on that very same band they even got the qso
points from you into their real contest log...?
I don't know (anymore) whether I have been dreaming or not, but I think
I have read (or at least understood) from somewhere (I think from an
article in CQ Contest Magazine) that *if* the mult station is calling
cq, all the qsos should (of course) be logged into the real contest log,
and all those non mult qsos should (of course) count 0 points. Thus the
disadvantage of calling cq on mult station being that you WILL NOT and
you SHOULD NOT get qso points from those stations that have been worked
as non mult qsos on mult station on the same band.
In my opinion working the non mult qsos with someone elses callsign sure
is very much questionable, if not even against the (unwritten ?) rules
of CQWW multi-single category.
Forgive me, if I'm wrong. There's always something new to be learned...
73 de Pasi OH2IW
(E-mail: OH2IW at sysopen.fi)
>From n4bp at shadow.net (Bob Patten) Mon Dec 2 09:22:08 1996
From: n4bp at shadow.net (Bob Patten) (Bob Patten)
Date: Mon, 2 Dec 1996 04:22:08 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Request for 3CX1500A7/8877, responses
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Have received many responses to my request. Some require, and will get
responses back from me. In the meanwhile, I have found one and made my deal.
My first priority is to finish trouble shooting the AL-1500, but I WILL
answer all the mail received. Thanks to all of you who offered your help!
Bob Patten, N4BP
>From dippel at rrze.uni-erlangen.de (Dieter Dippel) Mon Dec 2 10:03:08 1996
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Date: Mon, 2 Dec 1996 10:03:08 MET
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>From trey at cisco.com (Trey Garlough) Mon Dec 2 14:12:38 1996
From: trey at cisco.com (Trey Garlough) (Trey Garlough)
Date: Mon, 2 Dec 96 6:12:38 PST
Subject: About non mult qsos worked on mult stn (CQWW multi-single)
Message-ID: <CMM.0.90.4.849535958.trey at scv-cse-4.cisco.com>
> > Same thing happened to me (sorta). I found IQ4A calling CQ TEST MULT de
> > IQ4A IQ4A. Well, I had to be a multiplier right? He worked me with someone elses callsign.
> Very interesting. And if you happened to work them again when their
> running station finally was on that very same band they even got the qso
> points from you into their real contest log...?
Interesting that this should come up. I worked these guys four times
on ten meters on Sunday, and I have to confess I'm a little confused
about the whole thing.
24-Nov-96 1309 5104 10 I4LCK 599 15 15 I 3
24-Nov-96 1814 5657 10 I4LCK 599 15 -DUPLICATE- 0
24-Nov-96 1831 5680 10 IQ4A 599 15 3
24-Nov-96 1834 5685 10 IK4XQH 599 15 3
I called them the first time, and they called me the other three times.
What I don't understand is how it can possibly make sense to sign some
call other than the one you are trying to win the contest with. For
instance, what would you do in the following situation, A or B?
I am multi-single and I have worked D44BC already on 15, and I hear
them CQing on 15 and would like to ask them to QSY to ten. My run
station is on 20, and the mult station has been on 15 for 11 minutes.
A) D44BC de HC8N, PSE QSY 28010
B) D44BC de N5KO/HC8, PSE QSY 28010 AND LISTEN FOR HC8N
Duh. To me, the obvious answer is A, but I can't believe how many
times I hear B happening during the contest. What is the possible
advantage of B? Well, lets see. It adds a bogus free QSO for D44BC
on 15 meters, it possibly add a unique callsign to the log checking
database, you now need to keep a second log for your N5KO/HC8 QSOs,
and it has the added bonus of potentially making D44BC confused. You
will be able to measure how confused D44BC is by listening for how
many times he calls N5KO/HC8 on 28010.
Why do people do this? I'm confounded. I guess people somehow think
they are somehow fulfulling the exact letter of the ten minute rule by
signing a different callsign at time. Right. I suppose it's a matter
of interpretation. For instance, on SSB we had three stations set up
and the RUN and MULT stations were on 10 and 15. I was on station #3
engaged in a ten minute ragchew on 20 meters with PJ9B. Was I
violating the ten minute rule? I don't think so.
I'm sorry. I just don't get it.
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