Towers in the Seattle area

[K7LXC at aol.com]

Tom --

   Got your message via Dave, K4JRB, regarding moving to the Seattle area and
the tower situation.  King County has a tower regulation and I don't have all
the details...sri.  Most Eastside cities have varying degrees of restrictions
but it's the CC&Rs that are the biggest problem and they vary from
development to development.  Redmond is pretty much a slam dunk; one of my
customers put up a 75 foot crankup, TH11DX and 2L 40M beam after a 15 minute
visit to city hall - no engineering stamp or anything.  If you're interested
in more info, give me a call at 206-485-7913.  BTW, Snohomish county is more
liberal when it comes to tower construction (I live in Snohomish county) and
it's only a few miles north.


73, Steve  K7LXC

>From aa4lr at radio.org (Bill Coleman AA4LR)  Wed Feb  7 15:08:42 1996
From: aa4lr at radio.org (Bill Coleman AA4LR) (Bill Coleman AA4LR)
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 11:08:42 -0400
Subject: WPX-RTTY contest Low or High power?
Message-ID: <v01530504ad3e6a714717@[206.28.194.40]>

>Hello all, I hope to work every one this weekend in the WPX-RTTY contest.
>I will enter this contest as SINGLE OPERATOR ; LOW POWER.
>For me that means 150 watts and no amplifier! Please if you enter the LOW
>POWER category do not use an amplifier. If you would like to use an amp.
>than enter the High power category.

An amplifier can be used, so long as the total power output from the (all)
amplifier to the antenna is less than 150 watts.

Not every transceiver is capable of outputing 150 watts -- especially with
the higher duty cycle of RTTY transmission.

>I have seen results in the past with comment that LOW POWER was used but
>with the help of an AMPLIFIER? and the results are looking to good to be
>true!
>Maybe I am starting a war, but is has been bothering me for sometime.

If someone uses an amplifier, they need to have very accurate power
measurement equipment to ensure they don't exceed the 150 watt limit.

I've seen postings from other modes where people indicated they have used
an amp, but limited their output to 150w "as measured with a Bird
wattmeter." That would seem to be within the rules.

>This is completely my own opinion and I am not looking for any agreement
>or disagreement(flame) it is just my opinion.

Opinions shuold be based on facts. Everyone needs to periodically
re-evaluate their opinions. As one learns more, opinions can change with
time. It is a natural process.

If someone wants to run 1500 watts (or more!) and enter as low power or
qrp, there's not much to stop them. But these cheaters will forever know
they were not able to compete honestly.


Bill Coleman, AA4LR      Mail: aa4lr at radio.org
Quote: "Man will never fly in a thousand years!"
            -- Wilbur Wright, 1902



>From Del Seay <seay at alaska.net>  Wed Feb  7 15:22:16 1996
From: Del Seay <seay at alaska.net> (Del Seay)
Date: Wed, 07 Feb 1996 07:22:16 -0800
Subject: CONTEST STATION TVI/PHONEI SOLUTION
References: <Pine.SOL.3.91.960207100418.15456B-100000 at basic.eng.umd.edu>
Message-ID: <3118C3A8.75A7 at alaska.net>

De Syam wrote:






> 
> By the way, any neighbor who complains about interference of any kind
> gets a registered letter from me afterwards giving my account of the
> conversation and asking whether he agrees with the account.  The letter
> is cc'd to my attorney and the FCC.  This is usually the last I ever hear
> from that neighbor.
> 
>                                            Very 73,
> 
>                                           Fred Laun, K3ZO

It's a darned shame that operating a radio has come to this. 
We are a very small minority, but if we lobby hard, we could get
the U.S. government to enforce the same regulations on imports
that domestic manufacturers must comply with.
The Commission is well aware of problems with import telephones and
home entertainment devices being subject to rfi. Yet, no one wants
to offend the importers.
200,000 letters to congress would certainly be of benefit. But we
must act as one.
--de Del, KL7HF--

>From Dan Norman KJ1N <dnorman at niwot.scd.ucar.EDU>  Wed Feb  7 17:02:08 1996
From: Dan Norman KJ1N <dnorman at niwot.scd.ucar.EDU> (Dan Norman KJ1N)
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 10:02:08 -0700 (MST)
Subject: Towers in the Seattle area
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.960207093523.516A-100000 at niwot.scd.ucar.edu>


On Wed, 7 Feb 1996 K7LXC at aol.com wrote:

> 
> customers put up a 75 foot crankup, TH11DX and 2L 40M beam after a 15 minute
> visit to city hall - no engineering stamp or anything.  If you're interested
                       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> in more info, give me a call at 206-485-7913.  BTW, Snohomish county is more
> liberal when it comes to tower construction (I live in Snohomish county) and
> it's only a few miles north.
>
> 73, Steve  K7LXC
> 

Steve,
I was wondering if other County/City permit-granting agencies required 
this engineering stamp.  I submitted an application for a 35' guyed tower 
to Boulder County Land Use Dep't. and received a phone call from a 
planner stating that I needed to have the ROHN engineering specs. 
approved by a licensed PE or have him generate specs of his own.  This 
requirement from what I can tell is new and obviously intended to 
discourage hams from installing unsightly towers in beautiful Boulder, 
CO. Due to recent litigation that made it's way to Federal District 
Court over a proposed variance (special use review process) here seems to 
have really made it difficult to install any tower period.
I need to ask anyone out there who had to meet this requirement to let me 
know of any lower-cost solutions that have been acceptable to County or 
City Land use agencies.  Please reply directly.

'73 Dan KJ1N/0
Boulder, CO


>From H. Ward Silver" <hwardsil at seattleu.edu  Wed Feb  7 17:07:06 1996
From: H. Ward Silver" <hwardsil at seattleu.edu (H. Ward Silver)
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 09:07:06 -0800 (PST)
Subject: CC&R's , a growing danger to contesting
Message-ID: <Pine.3.07.9602070904.A9096-a100000 at bach.seattleu.edu>


Yes, there are hams in Seattle!  We just try to avoid moving into those
fussy new monstrosities chewing up the woods.  I digress...a great quote
"Suburbia is where they cut down all the trees and then name the streets
after them. - Bill Vaughan"  Not only do more than a few of these
regulate antennae out of existnece, but have strict controls over the
color you can paint your house,  whether you can park your cars on the
street, etc. etc.  Sure, they LOOK nice...but it's a facist state ;-)  At
least the trains run on time...

There are plenty of places to live in the area where you can put up a
skyhook...check out the older subs, unincorporated King County, and,
surprisingly, the city of Seattle.  My suggestion is to drive around until
you see a tower and ask your agent to shop in those locales.

73 and Good Hunting!

Ward N0AX