You Guys make the call...

ramirezk at ramirezk at
Mon Feb 12 21:21:13 EST 1996

Fellow contesters,
 First he tells everyone that he refuses to work me in a VHF 
contest because I don't sign /W4.
Now this. I give up... And this is supposed to be fun? You guys 
decide what I should do with my log. When someone reminds me 
that this is only a hobby I'll send it along with the," who 
gives a damn what they think"attitude I'm famous for. I'm going 
for another beer and to get out the old Stamp collection.And I 
thought this aggravation only happened on packet...I don't feel 
that anyone should lose a mult because of a mistake I made due 
to unfamiliarity with a logging program.Mea Culpa!Not Yours.

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From: "Skelton, Tom" <skeltt at mmsmtp2.ColumbiaSC.ATTGIS.COM>
To: ramirezk <ramirezk at>
Subject: RE: Sprint Stuff
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 96 14:49:00 PST

      Here is my second mistake. I accidentally forgot to copy
the log.tmp file and deleted it and only copied the log.dat file
for v4.05 of N6TR logger. I lost the last 5 calls of the contest
out of my log. If you were my contact number 185,186,187,188,189
please send me your call and info. Please?!
Results original-189 X 42=7938
        Stupidity version and final version unless I am lucky=
184 X 42+ 7728


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Thanks for doing a far better job than I of making SC
available in the Sprint.  I was in the low power category,
and didn't even realize my 40m dipole had come down in
the winds before the contest.

I'm not trying to put a strange bent on things and I don't have
a lot of pent-up anger (I think those were your feelings about
my comments on ur VHF test callsign choice), but if you get
logging help after the contest you are violating the rules of
the contest. This is not my "in the spirit" of the contest
verbage, but is directly related to the rules.   The contest 
at 0400GMT on Sunday, not this week.  It doesn't even matter
that you might want to help someone else by making sure
that they got the SC multiplier.  If someone gives you log info
here on internet, they are also violating the rules of the 
Of course, there's a gray area with some of the guys posting
their actual logs here!

Now, if you just want to know who you worked for the heck of it
there isn't a darn thing wrong with it and who cares.  However,
for scoring and contesting purposes your "stupidity version"
(how many times have I been at least as guilty??) is what must
be  submitted.  Remember what happened to N6TR in
sweepstakes last year?  THink how badly he must feel.

I'm sure I'm not the only person to point this out.... congrats
again on the sprint score.  I hesitate to post my pitiful
score....73,tom WB4iUX

ps:  W3ZZ came to your defense on the VHF test callsign
discussion.  Now I know why:  you 2 eat anchovies together.
Of all the things I've put in my mouth, I can't stomach
anchovies and escargot.

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>From broz at (John Brosnahan)  Tue Feb 13 02:37:10 1996
From: broz at (John Brosnahan) (John Brosnahan)
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 19:37:10 -0700
Subject: Tower Help
Message-ID: <199602130237.TAA18764 at>

>A tower really does not need that much maintainence except, of course, to
>take it down every 2-3 years to grease the joints between the sections...

Out here in Colorado, where it is pretty windy all of the time, we also try
to rotate the guys every few years to equalize the wear and tear from the
predominately western winds.

BTW  You failed to mention that when you replace your tower sections after
greasing you should also turn them to equalize the ultraviolet exposure on
the three faces.

73  John  W0UN

John Brosnahan  
La Salle Research Corp      24115 WCR 40     La Salle, CO 80645  USA
voice 970-284-6602            fax 970-284-0979           email broz at

>From jfunk at (jim funk)  Tue Feb 13 02:57:49 1996
From: jfunk at (jim funk) (jim funk)
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 20:57:49 -0600
Subject: cows
Message-ID: <9602130257.AA09815 at>

It's about time KM0O got in here to defend his namesakes.  I remember during 
CW SS about three years ago, working KM0O and AC0W back-to-back.  I glanced 
at the clock, and sure enough --- it was time for the morning milking!

>From Pete Smith <n4zr at>  Tue Feb 13 02:59:45 1996
From: Pete Smith <n4zr at> (Pete Smith)
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 18:59:45 -0800
Subject: Tower modeling programs (and liability)
Message-ID: <199602130259.SAA21907 at>

At 07:33 PM 2/11/96 -0500, you wrote:
>On Sun, 11 Feb 1996, Pete Smith <n4zr at> wrote:
>>At 09:39 AM 2/11/96 -0800, W7NI wrote:
>>>The tax preparation program comparison falls down a little also because I
>>>can't see how an innocent bystander can get maimed or killed because you
>>>make a mistake in your taxes.
>>On the other hand, the IRS can send you to jail. I think people like Intuit
>>(Turbotax) are more worried about the consumer suing them directly than
>>about 3d parties.
>>FWIW, for $26/yr I bumped the liability limit on my homeowner's insurance to
>>$1 million.  I had initially explored the idea of a wraparound overall
>>liability policy, but concluded that the cost of the latter option was too
>>high relative to where my risk lay (a couple of hundred dollars a year).
>>The homeowner insurance angle may be a useful low-cost option for some
>>73, Pete Smith N4ZR
>>n4zr at 
>I believe that the usual Homeowners policy contains an exclusion regarding 
>business or professional activities.  Your agent will be able to confirm
>It may be possible to extend the coverage of that HO policy to cover such 
>activities, and it will be probably pretty reasonable charge, but this will 
>require a specific endorsement.  Just raising the limits won't do the trick.
>Ted K1BV 
>Insurance CPCU as well as editor of DX Awards Directory.

Sorry, Ted, I should've been clearer -- I wasn't talking about this as
protection for the writer of tower software, but for the owner of tower...
thereby hopefully reducing motivation to sue writer of software.
73, Pete Smith N4ZR
n4zr at 

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