Heights Manufacturing co.

WR34SHE at shellus.com WR34SHE at shellus.com
Mon Jul 1 16:44:18 EDT 1996


FROM: SAM EFFINGER  SIET UTILITIES
SUBJECT: Heights Manufacturing co.

Are these folks still in business?  Can anyone provide me a phone number?

Thanks    Sam K9SD


                  K9SD

>From pa3fcd at dds.nl (Mark van Wijk)  Mon Jul  1 22:01:34 1996
From: pa3fcd at dds.nl (Mark van Wijk) (Mark van Wijk)
Date: Mon, 01 Jul 1996 23:01:34 +0200
Subject: AGAIN:best-2nd-hand-Radio
Message-ID: <31D83CAE.1706 at dds.nl>

Dear all,

Thanks to N6IT,W2VJN,GI0NWG,N1MM,WB2DIN,W5KFT,G3VBL,AA4NU,KG6I,K3WW,
          K5GO,K1ZX,K1VUT,N6TV,N4ZR and KE3Q for responding to my enquiry.


For those who didn't read my 1st message; the goal is to find the best (cheap) second hand HF-rig 
in my situation.

Most important needs:

1. CW only here (who needs a mic?) so "CW ergonomics"
2. Contest ergonomics.
3. Excellent RX on  40-80-160.


It's just like my profession in Hi-Fi, everyone claims to have the best gear and are sure they 
can prove it against product B.
Out of a lot of magazine articles, other peoples opinions and your contributions I've made the 
following distillation based on my personal interpretation only:


TS-940/950 :   Not good enough on RX.  So was my personal experience of the 940                
               compared to everything else.

4C-line    :   I've had one with all the filters next to my TS-850. It was marginally better on 
               40 during good condx. Thanks to its L.O. and best-ever-build preselector. But this 
               one is useless in contests compared to nowadays technology, in ergonomics that is 
               (ONLY).

TS-830     :   This one is a "golden oldie" still used by some of the best contesters, although I 
               am sure they are being modified. The best points: excellent L.O. and a            
               usable preselector. Against: VFO one turn is 25 Khz.

TR-7       :   Fair rig for its price, but their are so many reasons to look at almost any other.

FT-990     :   Well this one is not available here second hand and certainly to high priced. Very 
               good on RX, but very old ergonomics (non-contest)compared to its opponent:

TS-850     :   This is the one with all the necessary "bells & whistles"
               which puts it way in front of any rig. Bad, or better NO
               QSK, and no switchable second antenna. Good RX, but lousy
               stock filters. With installed 400Hz Int. Radio filters this should be more or less 
               the best choice I guess.
               I have had one for 2 years (why did I sell it?) and used it in different contest 
               situations where I could pull out the most QSO's. To me it's an all time standard 
               in its class. 

IC-765      :  So is this one according to many users and top-contesters. Icom surely has the 
               better stock filters.
               Some say this one is slightly less on 160 RX. Total layout and handling is        
               eehrm... non-Kenwood and I experienced this during this years 160-WW-CW with the  
               available controls/options. Also this one proved to be unreliable; this one had a 
               atu which started to "fiddle around" just when you needed that W-. The load of the 
               PA was an exact 50 Ohm carbon resistance. Anyway  RX was slightly less compared to 
               last years 850 on RX.
               On the other hand the 765 has very good figures in terms of phase noise. I think I 
               should give it another try.

TS-930     :   Very good on RX, some say the best for CW. Some top cont-
               esters used it for 160-80 next to FT-1000's for the higer
               bands!!??? It's an older rig with many solder problems on
               the pcb (upper to down layerside hole-connections) Look 
               for serialno: >3100.... Very usable basic rig, especially
               with the better filters. Also many tech. reasons why not to look for this one:    
               audible hiss/tone in CW due to leak in product detector, higher phase noise ????).
               Still a bargain in any respect.


Some major conclusions:

Ergonomical/technical features apply to some persons/situations and might give you better 
results. At least it does for me, so please do not feel offended if I tend to be a TS-850 lover.


An FT-1000 and surely the MP version are the big winners today.....but putting things into 
perspective....what does it more than the 930 ??
Again its like Hi-Fi equipment; you still can have lots of fun with a medium priced, personally 
tweaked set.
To answer the question; in DX the 930 does the same, if you hear it you can work it.
In the contest the 930 still pulls 95 out of 100 stations. But...............
...number 97 is that particular country/zone......:((

Again, I have a life next to contesting and stay with the others mentioned above (yet).


Technical specs. should be read carefully. The 3rd interceptpoint level is something like the 
"top speed of your car on a closed runway", no wind rain etc.
Don't forget it's not the promised top speed which counts; it's the available horsepower and how 
you use it on the race track. How to stay inside the powerband, which gear, maximum traction etc. 
(yes I drive a suzuki RF-900 bike, and I won't sell it for a 1000MP!).

Things worth looking at are:
Optional better filters having a better shape factor and a higher out-of-band attenuation.
Lowest possible phase noise to avoid reciprocal mixing. Think this is what causes (next to out of 
band selectivity) most of the dirt during contests on the lower bands epecially.

DSP's work fine but should be considered for tweaking at "the end of the receiving chain".

Ok, that's it for now. Again thank you for responding. If there is anything I have overlooked 
please let me know. I think you get the point where I'm aiming at.


Warmest Regards,


Mark, PA3FCD

>From pa3fcd at dds.nl (Mark van Wijk)  Mon Jul  1 22:05:32 1996
From: pa3fcd at dds.nl (Mark van Wijk) (Mark van Wijk)
Date: Mon, 01 Jul 1996 23:05:32 +0200
Subject: Sunspot cycles caused by planetary tides.
References: <v01530501adfe0120a517@[194.98.4.112]>
Message-ID: <31D83D9C.37D1 at dds.nl>

Laurent HAAS - F6FVY wrote:
> 
> Hello contesters.
> 
> We all need sunspots these days !
>"snip"



NO, we don't all need the sunspots !!




 
> Do you know what could cause the well-known 11-year sunspots cycle ? Point
> your W3 browser to :
> 
> http://www.alpes-net.fr/~j_p_desm/sun.html
> 
> Best 73
> Larry - F6FVY (casual op. @ TM1C)
> 
> -

>From TREY at TGV.COM (Trey Garlough)  Mon Jul  1 22:57:11 1996
From: TREY at TGV.COM (Trey Garlough) (Trey Garlough)
Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 14:57:11 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Frequently Asked Questions
Message-ID: <836258231.756120.TREY at tgv.com>

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                      Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ)
                             CQ-Contest at TGV.COM

                by Trey Garlough, WN4KKN & Jim Reisert, AD1C
                                July 1, 1996

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Contained in this FAQ:

  1. General Information about the FAQ and CQ-Contest at TGV.COM
        o About this FAQ
        o About CQ-Contest at TGV.COM
        o Editorial Guidelines
        o Appropriate Topics for Discussion
        o Inappropriate Topics for Discussion
  2. Subscribing and Unsubscribing
        o General Information about Subscribing and Unsubscribing
        o Subscribing to the list
        o Unsubscribing from the list
        o Getting the list in Digest form
        o Temporarily stopping and restarting mail
  3. Operating Practices
  4. Mailing List Archives
  5. E-mail addresses of Contesters
        o General Information about E-mail Addresses
        o WB5VZL List
        o CQ-Contest REVIEW
        o QRZ! Ham Radio CDROM
        o World Wide Web Directory Services
        o The old-fashioned way!
  6. Related Mailing Lists
        o Contest Results Group -- 3830 at contesting.com
        o Kids contest group -- kids at contesting.com
        o CT users group -- ct-user at ve7tcp.ampr.org
        o NA users group -- na-user at ve7tcp.ampr.org
        o SuperDuper users group -- sd-user at blacksheep.org
        o TRLOG users group -- trlog at contesting.com
        o Internet DX Reflector - dx at ve7tcp.ampr.org
  7. Internet Resources for Contesters
        o Contest Log Submissions
        o World Wide Web
  8. Finding out more about the Internet

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1) General Information about the FAQ, CQ-Contest

1.01) About this FAQ

This FAQ will be posted every so often to the CQ-Contest mailing list.

If there's something you'd like added to this FAQ, please send mail to
WN4KKN (trey at cisco.COM), and he will update it.

1.02) About CQ-Contest at TGV.COM

CQ-Contest at TGV.COM is an electronic mail reflector dedicated to hams
interested in all types of amateur radio contesting. This is a good place
for contest-related announcements, discussions and rumors. This forum is
more like the NCJ than QST; INFO-HAMS at UCSD.EDU and rec.radio.amateur.misc
are good places to look for a more rounded discussion of the hobby.

Although there is overlap between contesters and DXers, CQ-Contest is not a
DX-oriented group. DX at ve7tcp.ampr.org is an electronic mailing list
(reflector) dedicated to the discussion of DXing. For details on how to
subscribe to this and other mailing lists, consult the section entitled
Related Mailing Lists.

CQ-Contest is NOT the place to announce your score after a contest.
3830 at contesting.com is an electronic mailing list (reflector) for reporting
scores. See the Related Mailing Lists section below for details on how to
subscribe. Jimmy Floyd, WA4ZXA also collects scores and will occasionally
post a summary to CQ-Contest.

Each message you send to CQ-Contest at TGV.COM will be sent out to all the
other subscribers, kind of like a 2-meter repeater that has a coverage
radius of 12,000 miles or so. Think of sending mail to the list as the
equivalent of an ANNOUNCE/FULL message on PacketCluster. Use regular E-mail
to send a message to a specific individual.

1.03) Editorial Guidelines

The rules are very simple. Postings to CQ-CONTEST at TGV.COM should be
non-commerical and related to radio contesting. Anything outside of those
boundries should not be seen here unless specifically approved by WN4KKN
(trey at cisco.com). If Trey thinks the update has merit, he will likely
approve it.

1.04) Appropriate topics for discussion

   * Contest Announcements: Must be true contests, not "operating events"
     or "special events".
   * Contester's shack (inside) hardware/software: Must be relevant to
     CONTESTING, not just a discussion of bells and whistles that have
     little or no application to contesting.
   * Contester's outside shack (antennas/towers/coax/relays): Again, must
     be RELEVANT to contesting.
   * Contester's strategy: Before, during, after. How you planned/executed
     your activities.
   * Contester's skill: What you do that makes you good (or bad).
   * Contester's stories: Must be directly about contesting.
   * Contest ethics
   * Contest rules
   * Contest operators: who was where, who is good, who is an SK, etc.

1.05) Inappropriate topics for discussion

CQ-Contest at TGV.COM is mailing list dedidcated to contesters talking about
contesting. Termendous lattitude is given to INTERESTING topics ranging far
afield, but there are some types of messages that are strictly
inappropriate. For instance:

   * Meta-discussion about the CQ-Contest mailing list. These should be
     conducted in private with WN4KKN (trey at cisco.com)
   * The summary sheet from your latest contest effort. That should go to
     3830 at contesting.com.
   * What is the QSL route for xxx?
   * What is the E-mail address for xxx?
   * Is the xxx mailing list up/down?
   * Is the xxx DXpedition on the air yet?
   * Product annoucements.
   * Solicitations for nominations for "Young Ham of the Year".
   * Advertising (unless approved in advance by WN4KKN trey at cisco.com)

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2) Subscribing and unsubscribing

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        SET NOMAIL

Since you will be getting the messages in digest form, you won't need to
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To stop mail (for example if you're going on vacation), send a message to
CQ-Contest-REQUEST at TGV.COM that says:

        SET NOMAIL

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3) Operating Practices

Electronic mail is different from packet radio, in that many subscribers
receive their E-mail through commercial services such as CompuServe and
MCImail. In essence, many people are paying for each byte of every message
sent to CQ-Contest. In order to minimize spurious messages, please follow
the operating hints detailed below:

   * Put your name, callsign and E-mail address on every message you send.
     We don't all know everyone by just a callsign, nickname or Internet
     address. Furthermore, not everyone's E-mail software lets you see all
     the headers of the message, so it's sometimes difficult to reply to an
     individual posting without knowing the sender's address.
   * Use a subject line that indicates the true subject of your message.
   * Wait a while before answering someone's question. Six other people
     have probably answered it already. Most answers should go directly to
     the person who posed the question, rather than to the list.
   * Unlike PacketCluster, many people pay $$$ when they receive messages.
     Some people pay per message, some per byte. Therefore, please take
     this into consideration when writing a response. Would you pay $0.50
     to read the message that you just wrote?
   * Eschew flamage. If someone sends a flame to the list and you can't
     bite your tongue, send your flaming reply directly back to the flaming
     individual, not back to the list. No one wants to pay $1.00 to read
     these messages (the original flame + your reply). Treat flamers the
     way you would 2-meter repeater jammers - ignore them.
   * Make sure there is something of value in each message you send to the
     list. Avoid messages that are a complete reprint of someone else's
     message, with nothing but "I agree" or "Me too" added to the bottom --
     not much value there.
   * Some people pay by the byte, so when following up to someone else's
     message, be sure to include only the essential pieces or thread of the
     note. Don't include those 20 extra header lines that your mail gateway
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   * If you are going to make a personal reply, make sure to remove
     CQ-Contest from the header of your outgoing mail message. Otherwise,
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4) Mailing List Archives

You can fetch messages from the CQ-Contest archive by sending a message to
FileServ at TGV.COM that says:

        SENDME CQ-Contest-ARCHIVE.yyyy-mm

where yyyy-mm is the year and month of the archive desired. For additional
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5) E-mail addresses of Contesters

5.01) General information about E-mail addresses

There are number of ways to find the E-mail address for a particular
contester. Please do NOT send a message to CQ-Contest that says "Does
anyone have the E-mail address for ______?"

5.02) WB5VZL List

George Fremin, WB5VZL (geoiii at bga.com), maintains a fairly current list of
contester E-mail addresses. Send him a note to him asking for his list. Or
you can find the list on the WWW at http://www.contesting.com/emails.html.

5.03) CQ-Contest REVIEW

You can get a list of CQ-Contest subscribers by sending a message to
CQ-Contest-REQUEST at TGV.COM that says REVIEW.

5.04) QRZ! Ham Radio CDROM

The QRZ! Callsign Database has the E-mail addresses for over 30,000 hams!
You can access it on the WWW at http://www.qrz.com.

5.05) World Wide Web Directory Services

There are several services on the WWW for looking up E-mail address for a
given name. Here are a few of them:

      Bigfoot  http://bigfoot.com/
      Four11   http://www.Four11.com/
      LookUP!  http://www.lookup.com/
      OKRA     http://okra.ucr.edu/okra/
      WhoWhere?http://www.whowhere.com/

Thanks to Steve Zettel KJ7CH for the information!

5.06) The old-fashioned way!

If you've exhausted every other resource, try calling the person you seek
on the telephone and asking for their E-mail address directly. Or send a
letter to their Callbook address (and include an SASE if you desire a quick
response).

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6) Related Mailing Lists

6.01) Contest results group -- 3830 at contesting.com

This mailing list is a forum dedicated to post-contest score reports, as is
done on 3830 KHz after contests. Summaries of the scores reported to this
mailing list are posted on CQ-Contest on a regular basis after contests. To
subscribe to this mailing list, send a message to
3830-request at contesting.com that says SUBSCRIBE.

6.02) Kids contest group -- kids at contesting.com

This mailing list is used to post the results of the SquINT contests which
are announced on CQ-CONTEST. These contests encourage kids to participate
in a fun filled event and gain exposure to amateur radio and contesting.
Contact n6tr at contesting.com to sign up and receive a copy of the rules.

6.03) CT users group -- ct-user at ve7tcp.ampr.org

This mailing list is a forum dedicated to the CT Logging Program, by K1EA.
To subscribe to this mailing list, send a message to
ct-user-request at ve7tcp.ampr.org that says SUBSCRIBE.

6.04) NA users group -- na-user at ve7tcp.ampr.org

This mailing list is a forum dedicated to the MA Logging Program, by K8CC.
To subscribe to this mailing list, send a message to
na-user-request at ve7tcp.ampr.org that says SUBSCRIBE.

6.05) SuperDuper users group -- sd-user at blacksheep.org

This mailing list is a forum dedicated to the SuperDuper Logging Program,
by EI5DI. To subscribe to this mailing list, send a message to
MAJORDOMO at blacksheep.org that says SUBSCRIBE SD-USER.

6.06) TRLOG users group -- trlog at contesting.com

This mailing list is a forum dedicated to the TRLOG Logging Program, by
N6TR. To subscribe to this mailing list, send a message to
trlog-request at contesting.com that says SUBSCRIBE.

6.07) Internet DX Reflector - dx at ve7tcp.ampr.org

This mailing list is a forum dedicated to Amateur Radio DXing. To subscribe
to this mailing list, send a message to dx-request at ve7tcp.ampr.org that
says SUBSCRIBE.

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7) Internet Resources for Contesters

7.01) Contest Log Submissions

Jimmy Floyd, WA4ZXA (floydjr at interpath.com) is the unofficial Internet
scorekeeper. He compiles the "score rumors" that are posted to the 3830 and
CQ-Contest reflectors.

          Contest Name                   Address
 ARRL Contests                 contest at arrl.org
 CQ WPX                        n8bjq at erinet.com
 DARC Worked All Europe (WAE)  100712.2226 at CompuServe.com
 NCJ Sprint (CW)               tree at contesting.com
 NCJ Sprint (SSB)              aoniswan at ecuvm.cis.ecu.edu
 North American QSO Party (CW) w9nq at ccis.com
 North American QSO Party (SSB)merchant at silcom.com

7.02) World Wide Web

 Contesting On-line               http://www.contesting.com/
 ARRL Contest Branch              http://www.arrl.org/contests/
 CQ Contest Magazine              http://www.access.digex.net/~cqmag/
 National Contest Journal (NCJ)   http://www.waterw.com/~ncj/
 KA9FOX Web Page                  http://www.QTH.com/ka9fox/
 LA9HW Web Page                   http://www.sn.no/~janalme/hammain.html
 OH2KI Web Page                   http://mpoli.fi/~leif/oh2ki.html
 WB2K Contest DXpedition Registry http://www.mordor.com/wb2k/dxmenu.html
 CT by K1EA Software              http://www.ve7tcp.ampr.org/Software/ct/
 Super Duper by EI5DI             http://www.iol.ie/~okanep/
 TR by N6TR                       http://www.QTH.com/tr/

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8) Finding out more about the Internet

Pick up a copy of the book The Internet Companion by Tracy LaQuey,
Addison-Wesley, ISBN 0-201-62224-6. If your local technical book store
doesn't carry it, you can order from Computer Literacy, 2590 North First
Street, San Jose, CA 95131. Their phone number is +1 408 435-0744.

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This FAQ was written by Trey Garlough, WN4KKN (trey at cisco.COM) and
converted to HTML by Jim Reisert, AD1C (AD1C at tiac.net). Many thanks to Jim
and to everyone else who has contributed to this FAQ.

>From bigdon at eskimo.com (Big Don)  Tue Jul  2 00:54:46 1996
From: bigdon at eskimo.com (Big Don) (Big Don)
Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 16:54:46 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Steve Mendelsohn's letter
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.94.960701164857.28165C-100000 at eskimo.com>


On Wed, 26 Jun 1996 K7LXC at aol.com wrote:

> [...] 
>        Every organization needs to grow in order to keep up with increased
> costs, taxes, etc. whether you are a business or a family economic unit.  My
> point is that without this growth in the market and peripherally in ARRL
> membership, we won't have the economic resources to do all the things we want
> to do, let alone stay in business. 

In other words, fewer hams, however better their quality, means fewer
folks needing towers and antennas professionally erected...

Big Don


>From hwardsil at wolfenet.com (Ward Silver)  Tue Jul  2 03:56:15 1996
From: hwardsil at wolfenet.com (Ward Silver) (Ward Silver)
Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 19:56:15 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: WRTC Ride from Oakland 7/10
Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.93.960701195111.3032C-100000 at gonzo.wolfenet.com>


Anybody headed over to the ICOM picnic from East Bay on Wednesday
afternoon?  My cheapo flight lands in Oakland, so I'm looking for a ride
in the neighborhood of 3PM to that Mecca of Contesters, the Motel 6 in
Belmont!

73, Ward N0AX


>From reiska at ven.net (Reinaldo Leandro)  Tue Jul  2 05:06:17 1996
From: reiska at ven.net (Reinaldo Leandro) (Reinaldo Leandro)
Date: Tue, 02 Jul 1996 00:06:17 -0400
Subject: abbreviations
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19960702040617.006676c0 at popmail.ven.net>

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Thanks very much to the 63 good fellows who took the trouble to answer my
request. ( BTW & IMHO )
The numerous comments are very much apreciatted, and also the funny remarks.

follows a list, hopping to be usefull.
73 es DX de 

Reinaldo, YV5AMH

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AAMOF - As a matter of fact
BAK - back at keyboard
BBFN - bye bye for now
BRB - be right back
BTW - By the way
CMIIW - correct me if I'm wrong
F2F - face-to-face
FITB - fill in the blank
FWIW - for what it is worth
FYI  - for your information
HHOK - ha ha only kidding
HOUEW - hanging on your every word
IAC - in any case
IE - For example
IKWUM - I know what you mean
IMHO - In my humble opinion
IMHO - stands for IN MY HONEST OPINION
IMNSHO - In my not so humble opinion.
IOW - in other words
KWIM - Know What I Mean?
LOL - Laughing Out Loud
OIC - Oh, I see!
OTOH - On The Other Hand
PNCAH - Please No Cussing Allowed Here
PTMM - Please, Tell Me More
RFWL - rolling on the floor with laughter
ROFL - Rolling on the floor laughing
ROTFLL - Rolls On The Floor Laughing Loudly
TANSTAAFL - There ain't no such thing as a free lunch
TIA - Thanks In Advance
TIC - Tongue in Cheek
TNTL - Trying Not To Laugh
TNX - Thanks
TTKSF - Trying to Keep Straigh Face
TYVM - Thank You Very Much
WFWL - work first worry later (like P5DX, 5A1B, etc)
WRT - With Reference To
WRT -With Respect to
WTGP? - Want to go Private
YIU - Yes, I Understand
YIWGP - Yes, I Will Go Private 
YMMV - Your mileage may vary
YMMV - your mileage (results) may vary (be different)


:-)  smiling face  (hi hi hi)
;-)  smiling face with a wink
8-)  smiling face wearing glasses
;-(  sad face


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