40 Beam Recommendations

k4sb at avana.net k4sb at avana.net
Wed May 29 22:32:49 EDT 1996

Well, a funny thing happened on the way to the top of the tower last Thursday.
At about 65', the pully off the mast decided to let go. Still haven't found all
the parts to the thing, and have yet to have a word of prayer with the manf.
( After all, the thing was only rated at 480 lbs ) BUT

Would like recommendations from you guys with full size 3 element 40s on what
to replace it with. I am primarily interested in stength, as we are subject to
icing here, and of course performance. Emphasis again on FULL size on all 
elements...Will summarize if enough responses. 

73, ED
Name: ed sleight
E-mail: k4sb at avana.net
Date: 05/29/96
Time: 21:32:49

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>From bernie.mcclenny at mail.wdn.com (Bernie McClenny, WR3E)  Thu May 30 05:05:42 1996
From: bernie.mcclenny at mail.wdn.com (Bernie McClenny, WR3E) (Bernie McClenny, WR3E)
Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 21:05:42 -0700
Subject: Norms Rotor Service
Message-ID: <31AD1E96.4A61 at mail.wdn.com>

Norms Rotor Service Home page. New
Yes I am a friend, no I don't have a vested interest.
If you want to look fine, if not fine.  FYI!
Don't bother to send me any emails about this!
de Bernie

>From km9p at contesting.com (Bill Fisher KM9P)  Wed May 29 22:24:28 1996
From: km9p at contesting.com (Bill Fisher KM9P) (Bill Fisher KM9P)
Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 17:24:28 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: WPX 36 vs 30 hours SOP
Message-ID: <Pine.BSD/.3.91.960529171613.1888E-100000 at paris.akorn.net>

> 	Hello !!
> 	I can't understand what's the problem ?? 
> 	If CQWWDX  is 48 hours, WPX with only 36, it's fairly easyer to
> 	optimize operation and get some rest during the contest.
> 	Personaly I even prefer 48 Hour operation, when you are forced
> 	to stop because you have limited time operation, you break the
> 	rythom and gets harder when you come back !
> 					73 + Good DX + Good Contest !!
>  | Pedro Pedroso                        |                            | 
>  | l38217 at alfa.ist.utl.pt               |  CT1ELP                    |

Typically a guy that enters the 48 hour 
category (seriously) will operate 42 - 45 hours.  I think most of the 
guys that do this category will tell you that 3 hours of sleep will do 
you more good than actually missing the operating time.  

So... The difference between a 36 hour contest and a 42 hour contest 
really isn't that much.  Here in the USA it also gives the guys in the NE 
their advantage back.  When it was 30 hours, the guys in California could 
typically find 30 hours in which they could run guys.  The guys in the NE 
would have to select 30 hours of the possible 40 they could run.  Ya the 
guys in the NE still win, but the guy in California feels like he has a 
chance and thus gets on the air.  The way it is now...  well, when was 
the last time KKN did WPX SSB from QHS?  


Bill, KM9P

>From skeltt at mmsmtp2.ColumbiaSC.ATTGIS.COM (Skelton, Tom)  Thu May 30 02:50:00 1996
From: skeltt at mmsmtp2.ColumbiaSC.ATTGIS.COM (Skelton, Tom) (Skelton, Tom)
Date: Wed, 29 May 96 18:50:00 PDT
Subject: FW: Special prefixes on CW
Message-ID: <31AD0035 at mmsmtp.columbiasc.attgis.com>

From: bsmith
To: cq-contest
Subject: Re: Special prefixes on CW
Date: Wednesday, May 29, 1996 3:06PM

.... SNIP .....

        > One thing I don't understand...why are so many contestants
        > still sending by hand?

Could it be because they enjoy it and prefer it that way?  At least
that's why I do. (Seems rather obvious.)

                                        - Brent KO4PY

AND....for those of us who aren't exactly in the World Class CW
Operator (tm) category, it helps to have a paddle and keyer in
line with the computer CW line if you get discombobulated and
need to finish the QSO before you embarrass yourself further....

Whilst on my soapbox, and short guys like ME need soapboxes,
I'd like to remind all World Class contesters that all contesters
aren't World Class.  Some of us even use pencil and paper for
just the fun-few-minutes we have to jump in and hand out a few
Q's.  Some of us just have wire antennas.  Some of us might not
even have a computer.  But if we weren't there, how many SS, ARRL,
CQWW, etc., QSO's would you have?????   I think this thread was
unraveled a few days ago, so I'll say good night.

enuff work for 1 day....
pass the silver bullets...

73, Tom WB4iUX
Tom.Skelton at ColumbiaSC.ATTGIS.COM

>From ghansen at accessone.com (Glenn Hansen)  Thu May 30 00:02:26 1996
From: ghansen at accessone.com (Glenn Hansen) (Glenn Hansen)
Date: Wed, 29 May 96 16:02:26 PDT
Subject: ARRL's Urgent NEED
Message-ID: <9605292302.AB15886 at pulm1.accessone.com>

>Seems to me (as I remember it) the good ole ARRL snuck the NO CODE license 
>in on us inspite of all the surveys they took of the HAM Community telling 
>them we didn't want it....They also did the renewable novice thing....One 
>never really knows the value of something when it is given to them!!!!

Damn straight! Infact lets take it a step further and require all renewals
take the code and theory elements for the ticket class they hold. We don't
need any of the trash on the bands that can't keep up on their code and
theory. The renewal period 
should be shortened to 5 years so we can keep the weeds out of the garden.

>They got it through (IMHO) to help out the equipment manufacturers sell all 
>those 2M  HT's....  Where did the bulk of that money go???  OFF SHORE  of 

Right on Comrade!!  It is those damn no-code taking jobs from Americans
and running our economy into the ground. Hey, didn't our taxes go up
about the time the no-coders slipped in?? You won't ever catch an 
American who knows code with a rig not made in America!

>Now they have been working  quietly (i'm told) to drop the CW requirment 
>altogether....Again (IMHO) that is to help the manufacturers, again mainly 
>OFFSHORE, sell more HF equipment...

It is a friggen crime!!  Only a person that can copy CW should have the
to buy foriegn made goods. Last thing I want is some guy in Japan laughing
to himself knowing he just build a Yaesu rig for some jerk that can't copy CW.
I want to crush that guys feelings and send him the message that that Yaesu is
going to a guy that can copy CW. Yea, that will ruin his day!

>In fact, i'm told that one of the members of the ARRL committee studying! 
>the dropping of the CW requirment is a manufacturer too....HMMMM  That 
>company has recently gone from their usual 2 pages a month advertising to 
>about 20 colored pages a month....HMMMMM again....makes one wonder doesn't 
>it...I think that it is a 'done deal' and we've been sandbagged again!!!

Yea, and I heard that this memeber has held all the reat of the evil ARRL
members hostage with a gun and forced his ideas on them. They are now under
his and only his mind control.

>I guess if we lose the 2 meter band and the 70 CM band they have to have 
>something to entice all of those NO-CODERS that they lurred into ham radio.  
>And that would be an UPGRADE into HF with a NO-CODE requirement.

Those scurvy no-coders. The first thing they will do is try and
claim 14.313 as their own!!  We have been warned!!

>I, like many of you, will do my part in trying to save our bands...but when 
>is the ARRL going to represent us on what we want, and have stood for, for 
>many years.
>Many of the No Coders do not belong to ARRL, and that is no surprise to me 
>and it shouldn't be to you either.  There is no need to, they got what they 
>wanted with little or no effort.  How many of them are going to do their 
>part to fight for the bands?

Why would anybody want to follow a person with such a closed mind? Though we
both may want to "save the bands" you seem to fit the image of the Ham radio
shinhead, or the bigot on the block. You spin a story but have no
facts to back any of it up. Next you are going to tell us the no-coders are
causing global warming because so many are on uhf/vhf warming the clouds.

Like I said, let's go with a 5 year renewal period and retake the 
elements and CW test for your currentl held ticket class. That way we can
save the bands
and send those foriegn devils a message. Not just any American will buy your
stuff, only American CW ops!!

:-) IMHO too!

73's    Glenn - KB7PKC

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