Right ICE numbers

[Marijan Miletic]

Few tech gurus commented on my short note on ICE filter attenuation and
I soon realized that I gave wrong numbers from the top of my head. 
So back to Win-95 and ARRL Designer to find out first that capacitors
I mentioned were inside 40m filter :-)

ICE filter for 40m with generous Q=200 will attenute  >30dB on 80m,
>20dB on 20m, >30dB on 15m ultimately approaching -50dB on VHF giving
a GOOD TVI protection.

Two-top-coupled-resonant-circuits configuration might be optimal for a
reasonable power handling and as I said at the end (and beginning), we
will happily use ICE again this weekend in WAE RTTY contest under YL Jelka,
S57NW m/s two radios setup.

Give us as many QTC as Internet email lines by now :-)

73 de Mario, S56A, N1YU.

P.S.  20dB number stuck in my 50+ old head came from DL7AV RX filter :-)


>From rocker at datasync.com (Ray Rocker)  Fri Nov  8 05:58:30 1996
From: rocker at datasync.com (Ray Rocker) (Ray Rocker)
Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 23:58:30 -0600 (CST)
Subject: sprINT Suggestion - Old Call for Name
Message-ID: <199611080558.XAA28384 at osh1.datasync.com>

> Why don't we try to get a handle on call sign changes by using your old call
> for the name in the next Internet sprINT? Aren't we do for one soon, Tree?

But remember, the names move around in sprINT. That would muddy up
the callsign recognition waters something fierce. 

OTOH, it'd be easier to copy a buncha familiar old callsigns than 
stuff like Frelton, Tenente, Hayzoo, Sligo, and Alibaba.

-- Ray, WQ5L


>From dleclair at efn.org (Cleve D Leclair)  Fri Nov  8 06:04:01 1996
From: dleclair at efn.org (Cleve D Leclair) (Cleve D Leclair)
Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 22:04:01 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Worst FCC vanity error?
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.95.961107215733.4095A-100000 at garcia.efn.org>



Speaking of errorrrrrrs....... I thought you were only eligiable for
call signs within your own call area ... 3 got va call with a 3 in it
6 wud get a 6....however  several 6's, 0's, 3s, and others got 7 land
calls.....

I make this, sour grapes, observation 'cause some of them were calls I
was trying for ... Did I read it wrong? These stns hv mailing addresses in
the call area from which their old call is from......

Cleve - "might always be" - N7IXG <---I still hv 7 calls not yet taken...



>From rocker at datasync.com (Ray Rocker)  Fri Nov  8 06:35:35 1996
From: rocker at datasync.com (Ray Rocker) (Ray Rocker)
Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 00:35:35 -0600 (CST)
Subject: Worst FCC vanity error?
Message-ID: <199611080635.AAA31886 at osh1.datasync.com>

> Speaking of errorrrrrrs....... I thought you were only eligiable for
> call signs within your own call area ... 3 got va call with a 3 in it
> 6 wud get a 6....however  several 6's, 0's, 3s, and others got 7 land
> calls.....

Nope. The only prohibition was on the blocks reserved for Alaska,
Hawaii, Puerto Rico, etc. 

> I make this, sour grapes, observation 'cause some of them were calls I
> was trying for ... Did I read it wrong? These stns hv mailing addresses in
> the call area from which their old call is from......

I agree that throwing out the call area boundaries stinks. I imagine
there was a run on 7s by some DX contesters. Thankfully, most all of
the vanity calls I've seen do have the traditional number, and those 
who don't will be balanced by the guys & gals who had out-of-area calls
and used this opportunity to get good calls with the 'correct' number.
In fact, at first glance there are more of the latter.

-- Ray, WQ5L, a native-born Five





>From trey at cisco.com (Trey Garlough)  Fri Nov  8 06:38:43 1996
From: trey at cisco.com (Trey Garlough) (Trey Garlough)
Date: Thu, 7 Nov 96 22:38:43 PST
Subject: Worst FCC vanity error?
Message-ID: <CMM.0.90.4.847435123.trey at scv-cse-4.cisco.com>

> Speaking of errorrrrrrs....... I thought you were only eligiable for
> call signs within your own call area ... 3 got va call with a 3 in it
> 6 wud get a 6....however  several 6's, 0's, 3s, and others got 7 land
> calls.....

The rule (paraphrased) is that you are allowed to get a callsign from
the area in which you reside, or one from mainland USA.  For purposes
of this exercise, all of the 48 states count as a single call area.

In other words, if you live in California, then you are entitled to a
call from W0-W9.  If you live in Pago Pago, you are allowed to elect a
AH8/KH8/NH8/WH8 call,or one from W0-W9.  If you live in Charlotte
Amalie, you may elect a KP2/NP2/WP2 call or one from W0-W9.  If you
live in Madras, you are allowed to pick a call like AT6A, or one from
W0-W9.

Clear now?  :-)

--Trey, N5KO/6

>From aa7bg at 3rivers.net (K7BG Matt Trott)  Fri Nov  8 07:06:22 1996
From: aa7bg at 3rivers.net (K7BG Matt Trott) (K7BG Matt Trott)
Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 00:06:22 -0700
Subject: SS CW check data AA7BG
Message-ID: <199611080706.AAA07216 at sun>

Here is the check data from AA7BG log:

Before 1950     99
1950-1959      317
1960-1969      314
1970-1979      231
1980-1989       81
1990-1996      103

We're on the rebound? Hopefully!

Out of 1145 Q's there were 138 QRPers.

73, Matt
K7BG


>From n4bp at shadow.net (Bob Patten)  Fri Nov  8 07:43:09 1996
From: n4bp at shadow.net (Bob Patten) (Bob Patten)
Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 02:43:09 -0500 (EST)
Subject: ENOUGH OF THE VANITY CALL CRAP! Who Cares?
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.961108024112.5644B-100000 at hyper>

On Fri, 8 Nov 1996 K7LXC at aol.com wrote:

>      Let me see, in a contest, what do you spend half your life doing?
>  Uhh...listening to CALLSIGNS?!  You betcha, Red Ryder.  A callsign is
> necessary and important to every contester.  Since the last callsign landgrab
> was in 1978(?), you don't have to worry about it again until 2014 or so.  
> 
1976...  Got mine the day before Christmas in '76 and had three calls 
that year - all from the same QTH.  Since this was also the bi-centennial 
year, I also signed AC4OZF and W4OZF before Christmas..

Bob Patten, N4BP



>From bigdon at eskimo.com (Big Don)  Fri Nov  8 10:26:17 1996
From: bigdon at eskimo.com (Big Don) (Big Don)
Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 02:26:17 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Vanity Calls/QSL Printers
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.95.961108022207.3937A-100000 at eskimo.com>

On Thu, 7 Nov 1996, Dave Earnest wrote:

> I just placed an order with W4MPY for cards.  He is being
> inundated with orders from us guys with new vanity calls.    [...]
> It is a good time for him, with sunspots being as they are!  [...]

The CD/Callbook biz is in even better shape since *everyone* who wants
to get current will need a new one, not just the folks with new calls...

Big Don
http://www.wsu.edu:8080/~garya/uncle.html