160 M DX window

[Dan Keefe]

Dear OM,

While lI don't use 160 at all and you can be assured that I won't
interfere with your contest activities on that band I have to say that
the "DX window for contestes" is a figment of your imagination in all
ways other than custom and practice.  

Whoever KC1XX is I strongly encourage him to chase DX wherever he is
licensed to operate, with or without your approval.

You have a hell of a nerve Mr.!

Dan Keefe  KS6Z


>From aa9ax at iglou.com (Steven Sample)  Thu Nov 28 02:07:51 1996
From: aa9ax at iglou.com (Steven Sample) (Steven Sample)
Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 21:07:51 -0500 (EST)
Subject: 160 M DX window
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95.961127205900.13580A-100000 at iglou1>

On Sun, 24 Nov 1996, Dan Keefe wrote:

> Dear OM,
> 
> While lI don't use 160 at all and you can be assured that I won't
> interfere with your contest activities on that band I have to say that
> the "DX window for contestes" is a figment of your imagination in all
> ways other than custom and practice.  
> 
> Whoever KC1XX is I strongly encourage him to chase DX wherever he is
> licensed to operate, with or without your approval.
> 
> You have a hell of a nerve Mr.!
> 
> Dan Keefe  KS6Z
> 
Dan-

I think you are right...it DOES take a lot of nerve to stand up and say
what you believe in.  I question why you act so flabbergasted about a
band and situation of which you apparently have little knowledge.

If you have any regard for the attempt of the ARRL and others to make the 
DX Window a viable possibility, I fail to understand your callous
comments.

There are several flagrant violators who wreck the "window" for others who
are not fortunate enough to be well-positioned with geography,
equipment, antennas, or even superior operating skill.  I personally feel
that asking U.S. amateurs to preserve a tiny 5 khz window in the 2000 khz
band for DX stations to call CQ is not tantamount to placing a burdon on
them.

Frankly, guys like you annoy me...but I guess someone else annoyed you
too-hence your post!

73,

Steve / N9FD 


>From aa8u at voyager.net (AA8U)  Thu Nov 28 02:13:36 1996
From: aa8u at voyager.net (AA8U) (AA8U)
Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 21:13:36 -0500 (EST)
Subject: 160 M DX window
Message-ID: <3.0.16.19961127211512.2cc7cab6 at voyager.net>

At 10:12 PM 11/24/96 -0800, you wrote:
>Dear OM,
>
>While lI don't use 160 at all and you can be assured that I won't
>interfere with your contest activities on that band I have to say that
>the "DX window for contestes" is a figment of your imagination in all
>ways other than custom and practice.  
>
>Whoever KC1XX is I strongly encourage him to chase DX wherever he is
>licensed to operate, with or without your approval.
>
>You have a hell of a nerve Mr.!
>
>Dan Keefe  KS6Z

Hello Dan,

You obviously have taken my words to mean something I did not intend. 

I understand this as you are not a 160M regular contester and are
"ignorant" of the issues I wrote about. Don't read "ignorant" to be a
negative criticism of you. 

The station I used as an example participates and competes with all the
other entrants, but does so by to some extent "trading" on some of the
others in what some feel is an unfair manner. It is no crime and nothing to
get really upset about. You should not get upset either.....this is a HOBBY
Dan! Gee whiz, lighten up. KC1XX just might be the one that is correct, I
may be way off in left field, but if so I'll have lots of company. 

Yes I have some nerve, enough to speak up when I see room for improvement.
Not with anyone person, but the rule definition that makes this whole thing
an issue in the first place. 

If you knew more about the subject you would have saved yourself a couple
points of blood pressure. Now, if a non contester chose to operate anywhere
on the band during the contest, good for them. It is done all the time and
contesters try to make room for them too and vise versa. I've been on both
sides of that fence. 

My original post was to the ARRL, cc the reflector. The cc was so I could
field the opinions and advice of others...you included! I didn't expect all
the replies to be warm fuzzies. HI 

I said before, I think the DX window, (a contest related term and concept),
should be better defined by the ARRL to remove the current ambiguousness.
The term DX window has nothing to do with non-contest operations that may
be coincident with an in-progress contest event. Does this help? Re-read
what I wrote, calmly again....it might make more sense this time.
  
I guess to truly understand what I'm saying, you will have to get on 160,
enter a couple dozen contest over as many years and then you will have a
true appreciation for the DX window topic among others.

You can get upset if you choose Dan, but is pointless. I respect your
opinion even if it may have sprung from a mis-understanding on your part.
You also have every right to express yourself however you choose. Hey Dan,
I still love you!


Have a nice Turkey Day!

73,
Bruce




>From ke5fi at wt.net (Chuck Dietz)  Thu Nov 28 04:08:44 1996
From: ke5fi at wt.net (Chuck Dietz) (Chuck Dietz)
Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 20:08:44 -0800
Subject: Beam South!
References: <9610278491.AA849139637 at mail-out.un.org>
Message-ID: <329D104C.3128 at wt.net>

Trust me, We in the US have had the experience of calling the African 
multipliers who could not hear us because Europe was so loud...

73'

Chuck, KE5FI


>From slazar19 at sgi.net (Spike Lazar)  Thu Nov 28 02:54:27 1996
From: slazar19 at sgi.net (Spike Lazar) (Spike Lazar)
Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 21:54:27 -0500 (EST)
Subject: 160 M DX window
Message-ID: <199611280254.VAA07349 at orion.bv.sgi.net>

>I question why you act so flabbergasted about a band and situation of
>which you apparently have little knowledge.
>
>Frankly, guys like you annoy me...but I guess someone else annoyed you
>too-hence your post!
>

Dear Slim, N9FD

I hate it when you hold back like that! It's a good thing your so mild
mannered. Funny thing, I actually heard somebody say something nice
about you! I was talking to K3LR on the phone last week and he tells me
what a nice guy you are!

Well it goes to show, you can fool all the people all the time, P.T.
Barnum was right, go west young man, go west. While he & KC1XX stayed
home in the east and won all the contests!

Sincerely,
dr. Bafoofnik