RTTY@SoundBlaster16

sp2ewq at gdansk.ampr.org sp2ewq at gdansk.ampr.org
Tue Sep 17 23:02:44 EDT 1996


Hi to all,
while I think my problem should perhaps rather go on the RTTY agenda 
somewhere, I want to try here a question asking you to comment on the 
softwares available, enabling the SoundBlaster16 card to be used to 
generate/receive the digital modes.
I've got such a card on my computer (unfortunately the Signal Processor Socket
has been empty in it as it was sold to me this way), but I still do not know
which software to use, where to buy it and what a chip to look for to fill 
the mentioned socket in case it's necessary.
I'd really appreciate any comments.
All the best, 73,
Alec SP2EWQ at GDANSK.AMPR.ORG

>From ND3A at cais.cais.com (Rob Shapiro - ND3A)  Wed Sep 18 03:01:36 1996
From: ND3A at cais.cais.com (Rob Shapiro - ND3A) (Rob Shapiro - ND3A)
Date: Tue, 17 Sep 96 19:01:36 PDT
Subject: WR3Z/R VHF Contest Results (long)
Message-ID: <Chameleon.4.01.2.960917194101.nd3a@>

1996 ARRL September VHF QSO Party

Call:  WR3Z/R
Category:  Rover
Operators:  ND3A, WR3Z (The Joy Boys)
Club:  Potomac Valley Radio Club (There are freqs above 29 MHz!)
Grids Activated:  FM07, FM08, FM18, FM19, FM29, FM28

Total QSOs:  227
Total QSO Points:  285
Total Unique Band Grids Worked:  35
Total Score = (285) x (35+6) = 11,685

Conditions were horrible, but knew it was so for most others (maybe everyone!)
Began by arriving in Waynesboro, VA saturday morning for a pre-contest brunch. 
Waynesboro is located at the northern terminus of the Blue Ridge Parkway and
the southern terminus of Skyline Drive.  Original plans were to operate FM07
from Wintergreen Ski Resort, just off the parkway, then drive up Skyline Drive
to Big Meadows in the middle of the central section.  But it was deja vu for me
when we got to Waynesboro and saw a barrier across the Skyline Drive
entrance, thanks to Hurricane Fran.  The January blizzard prevented me from
operating from both the parkway and drive.  We ate a fabulous HoJo brunch
and drove south down the parkway several miles to Wintergreen.

Upon setting up, I found I had left behind the nuts for the 432 MHz yagi u-bolts.
Thank goodness for electrical tape!  No hardware stores close by!  Upon
completing the FM07 operation, we drove back to the Skyline Drive entrance
and learned from a ranger that a portion of the drive was open, from the
southern entrance of the central section to Big Meadows, just where we wanted
to operate!  The downside was that we had to backtrack once completing the
operation there.

The best location for us for number of QSOs was FM18 in Tyson's Corner, VA.,
right in a mall parking lot!  We have operated there with great success previously.
The mall is located right next to the Washington, DC Beltway but is about the
highest point in the close-in DC area.  One just has to deal with some pager
intermod, but usually not bad late on a weekend evening.  We also timed
our operation there to begin after the mall had closed for the evening.
Security vehicles pass by periodically, but have not chased us away so far!

After sleeping at home in nearby Annandale (how many rovers get to do that?),
we operated the remaining three grids from the MD eastern shore, with not
much success.  The NFL didn't help out much in the early afternoon.  We could
tell, however, when the Philadelphia Eagles game was over when we got a string
of FM29 QSOs around 4:15 pm!

Despite the poor conditions and the usual antics of some on 146.55 FM (why
wasn't anyone on 146.58?), enjoyed the contest and look forward to January!!!

73, Rob

Rob Shapiro - ND3A
Potomac Valley Radio Club
Internet: nd3a at cais.com




>From aa4lr at radio.org (Bill Coleman)  Tue Sep 17 22:13:23 1996
From: aa4lr at radio.org (Bill Coleman) (Bill Coleman)
Date: Tue, 17 Sep 96 17:13:23 -0400
Subject: Sprint - Ethical Question
Message-ID: <960817171101.RAA19551 at gate.iterated.com>


During the NA Sprint SSB, I ran into an interesting situation. Station X 
had finished a Q, so I called him. He replied, we exchanged information 
and I ended with "CQ Sprint AA4LR".

X: "Bill, this is my frequency."

Me: "Oh, OK, Go ahead."

X: "I didn't call CQ or QRZ, so I still have the frequency."

Me: "Whatever. Go ahead."

And with that, I QSYed. I figured that he had a better chance of scaring 
up a Q, and I certainly wasn't going to argue with him.

This raises an interesting ethical question, though. The SPIRIT of the 
sprint rules is to prevent people from sitting on one frequency and call 
CQ. The WRITING of the sprint rules  permits "chained" operations where 
station A works B, B works C, C works D, etc, on the same frequency. In 
this situation, however, A worked X, X worked me, then X worked someone 
else.

Station X may have been correct to the wording of the rules, but it just 
didn't seem right to me. I'm not saying he did anything wrong, but it did 
make me wonder.

Comments?


Bill Coleman, AA4LR           Mail: aa4lr at radio.org
Quote: "Not in a thousand years will man ever fly!"
            -- Wilbur Wright, 1901


>From glsalvia at capri.it (GianLuca Salvia)  Wed Sep 18 01:12:32 1996
From: glsalvia at capri.it (GianLuca Salvia) (GianLuca Salvia)
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 01:12:32 +0100
Subject: 18 Mhz Yagi
Message-ID: <199609180012.BAA23674 at www.caprionline.it>

I am looking for a easy project for a lightweight 2 elements yagi for 17 meters.

Thank you for any kind of help.

Luca, IC8WIC
Capri Island, Italy

Gian Luca Salvia
glsaslvia at capri.it


>From kk5ep at netdoor.com (Michael Causey)  Wed Sep 18 00:24:57 1996
From: kk5ep at netdoor.com (Michael Causey) (Michael Causey)
Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 18:24:57 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: About the CT vs TR Summary...
Message-ID: <199609172324.SAA01726 at netdoor.com>

Gentlemen:

I am working on a summary of my responses to my question concerning which
logging program ya'll liked better, CT or TR.  It will take me a few more
hours, but I am working on it.  I'll post it to the reflector as soon as I
have completed it. Thanks.  73, Mike  KK5EP. 


>From bernie.mcclenny at mail.wdn.com (Bernie McClenny, WR3E)  Tue Sep 17 08:30:05 1996
From: bernie.mcclenny at mail.wdn.com (Bernie McClenny, WR3E) (Bernie McClenny, WR3E)
Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 00:30:05 -0700
Subject: IARU HQ station claimed scores
Message-ID: <323E537D.5F5 at mail.wdn.com>

Here are the IARU Head Quarter station claimed scores for the IARU
Contest.  Still looking for the following scores:
8J3XHQ, EM5HQ, ER7A, ES4MM, HG96HQ, L75AA, LX0RL, LY0HQ, OI1X, OM6HQ,
R3HQ, SK0HQ, SV1SV, VY1RAC, YU0HQ, Z30M.  Does anyone have any fills?
de Bernie, WR3E

Call       HQ      QSO's     Mult's      Score
DA0HQ      DARC    10800*    295*        8,400,000*
YP0A       FRR      7627     284         7,159,356
S50HQ      ZRS      8196     283         6,673,423
OL9HQ               7111     269         5,547,856
W1AW/3     ARRL     8017     243         5,139,207
PI4AA      VERON    4315     230         3,559,710
GB5HQ      RSGB     3500*    ?           ?
ON4UBA     UBA      3472     207         2,096,082
EI0RTS     IRTS     426      31             81,111


Operators:
EI0RTS       EI3DP,EI4BZ,EI6BT,EI7DNB
GB5HQ        G4BAH,G4PIQ,G0WCW
OL9HQ        Unknown
PI4AA        PA3BBP,PA3DZN,PA3EOB,PA3ERC,PA3EWP,PA3FQA,PA3FRN,PA3GBQ,
             PA3GXF,PB0AIC,PI4AA
S50HQ        S50K,S50N,S51AY,S51IX,S51OI,S51ZO,S53BM,S54E,S55A,S57A,
             S57AD,S57DX,S57NX,S57W,S58A,S58D
W1AW/3       AA3NM,K3DI,K3NA,K3RA,KA2AEV,KJ4VG,N3ADL,N3QYA,N5OKR,ND3A,
             ND3F,W3LPL,W3MR,WA3WJD,WB4NFS,WM2H,WN3K,WR3E,WR3Z
YP0A         YO2ADQ, YO2APJ, YO2AUN, YO2BBT, YO2BP, YO2BV, YO2DFA,
             YO2GL, YO2IS, YO2LDC, YO3AC, YO3AWC, YO3CDN, YO3FRI,
             YO3FU, YO4AB, YO4ATW, YO4DIH, YO4HW, YO4SI, YO4WP, YO4WZ,
             YO4XF, YO5CRI, YO5DMB, YO5TE, YO6AWR, YO6GCW, YO8BAM,
             YO8ER, YO8SS, YO8TU, YO8WW

*=approx.
-- 
Bernie McClenny WR3E (ex WB3JRU)

Norms Rotor Service
We buy/sell/trade all U.S. rotors see our home page @
http://www.tiac.net/users/shiacawn/rotors
301-874-5885



>From N1MM at usa.pipeline.com (Thomas Wagner)  Wed Sep 18 01:59:06 1996
From: N1MM at usa.pipeline.com (Thomas Wagner) (Thomas Wagner)
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 00:59:06 GMT
Subject: using .wav files for voice keying
Message-ID: <199609180059.AAA11375 at pipe2.t2.usa.pipeline.com>

WriteLog provides this function along with a contest logging program. 
 
It is free and available at: http://people.delphi.com/w5xd/writelog.html 
It runs on Windows 3.1, 3.11 and Windows 95. 
 
Writelog uses .WAV files to drive the sound card.  The big advantage 
of .WAV files is that you can use tools like "COOL.EXE" to manipulate 
the sound.  You can add echo if you want to sound like a CB'er, or  
add compression and sound like a contester.  COOL will also perform 
noise reduction, so you can get rid of that fan noise in the background. 
 
To interface to your rig's mic, you'll want an audio isolation transformer 
(about $3-4 at RS), and maybe a resistor on the mic side (I think).  Here's

a trick -- run the sound card's DOS mixer program  
in your autoexec.bat, so that the sound card's output level  
and tone settings are exactly the same each time 
you use the card as a DVK. 
 
W5XD did a fabulous job with WriteLog, and deserves our  
accolades and support.   
 
Tom - N1MM 
____________________________________________________________ 
On Sep 17, 1996 13:40:14, 'leduc at atla3.agfa.com (Dave LeDuc)' wrote: 
 
 
> 
> 
>Is anyone using ".wav" files for digital voice keying.  
>I think it would be fairly simple to match the output of a PC sound card  
>to the microphone input of the transmitter and write an interface to play 

>the file. I'm sure someone must be using this approach however I havn't  
>seen anything in any of the major journals. 
> 
>Dave K1EPJ 
> 
>

>From ATHSU at mca.com (Hsu, Aaron T.)  Wed Sep 18 02:27:12 1996
From: ATHSU at mca.com (Hsu, Aaron T.) (Hsu, Aaron T.)
Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 18:27:12 -0700
Subject: JRC JST-245 Opinions...
Message-ID: <c=US%a=_%p=MCA%l=CORP-NT-1-960918012712Z-66 at corp-nt-1.mca.com>

Thanks to those who have responded to my request for opinions of the
JST-245.  Keep 'em comming!  So far, opinions have been mixed.

  - Excellent receive audio
  - Well designed
  - Poor (or non-existant) tech support
  - Only two sources in USA

And one thing I've noticed about the e-mails is that there have been QA
problems (something not working when the radio was received or
pre-mature failure of unit).

I would like to receive more thoughts though.  I still don't have enough
info to make a valid decision whether or not to get one.

Thanks & 73,

  - Aaron Hsu, KD6DAE
    athsu at mca.com

ps.  I'll compile the e-mails and forward them to whoever wants a copy.

>From kk5ep at netdoor.com (Michael Causey)  Wed Sep 18 03:23:46 1996
From: kk5ep at netdoor.com (Michael Causey) (Michael Causey)
Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 21:23:46 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: CT vs TR Summary
Message-ID: <199609180223.VAA15458 at netdoor.com>

Here is a summary of my responses to the CT vs TR question.  First, those
who favored TR were many in number. Their comments first:

1.  TR has a much better interface than CT, it(TR) also has a really neat CW
practice mode. (15 responses had essentially the same comment).
2.  While they both do the same thing as far as actual logging goes, TRs
seems much much smoother. 
3.  TRs presentation is much more visually pleasing, but CT allows one to
move the windows around.

4.  TR has great support.  Tree is great with his customers. TR has great
customer support. TR is more flexible and far better supported.  N6TR is
superb at fixing problems, he actually LIKES to fix problems associated with
the TR logging program.     (Many many more comments similar to these were
received). 

5.  This is the most "advanced program.  "Top op features". Makes
intelligent use of the keyboard.  Has a name database.  Has a custom contest
mode.  

6.  TR is very difficult to learn.  It has no rotator support.  TR is
flexible but much more difficult to learn, and less intuitive.  TR is
unquestionably the superior two-radio program; all in all, if you are
willing to work hard at it, TR is better.  If you want a program  that is
very easy to use and intuitive, with less flexibility, CT is better.(Again,
many responses were similar to these).

7.  TR supports more contests.

8.  TR has a steep learning curve and should not be fired up the day before
CQWW!  
      Don't assume you will be able to download the TR logging program and
be able to use it at once.  

9.  TR requires less keystrokes.  It is unbelievable!  In a contest like
sweepstakes this is really a timesaver.

10.  As a user of both CT and TR, I find TR *far superior* for CW
contesting.  The biggest difference for me is in TR, when you hear a call,
you don't have to do a "partial check" keystroke:  you enter the call, hit
the <RETURN> key, and if it is a new contact, the program will send your
call; if it is a dupe, your call will not be sent. Now THAT'S magic.  ( A
few comments to this effect).

11.  TR is a much better choice... Features:
        *  Supports two radios
        *  Band Mapping
        *  Keyboard CW and also able to have key sending(supports paddles)
        *  Number of contests covered

         Customer Service:

         *  Get updates through internet e-mail
         *  Quick response to bug fixes
         *  N6TR can be contacted easily through e-mail as can the distibutor 
         *  N6TR likes to work on the program
         *  Manual and updates to the manual are on the web
         *  TR is less expensive(!)

12.    TR sends "better sounding" CW

13.  N6TR takes more patience to set up, takes much more practice to become
familiar
        with, but will ultimately eliminate the need for several programs
while at the same
         time give you super flexibility.  My honest vote for you has to be
the N6TR
         program! 

Those who preferred CT:

1.  One ham wrote:  What's TR?  Everyone around here uses CT and NA.  Tell
me about      TR.(From the 1st call area).

2.  TR is adored by techno-types, hot-shot CW ops and two radio specialists.
CT       seems  to be favored by the rest of us.

3.  My experience is that BOTH are required to fully cover most of the
contests.  I use      TR for Sprint, NAQP and CT for all others.  If you are
limited to just one, go with CT.

4.  Pluses for CT- Most popular contest package, easiest to get going
quickly, support
     for all major radios, Countries are kept up to date, operates very
smoothly, DVP
     voice processor support, supports 50 line VGA mode, supports networks
for multi-
      op, supports computer-controlled rotators, nice statistical reports,
mouse support
      for moving windows around, best support for MASTER.DTA callsign database,
      is the "standard" at multi-op stations, has "point and shoot" packet
support, nice
      band map.

5.  Minuses for CT- K1EA has very little time for support, does NOT support
CW      paddles, no custom contest mode, for CW some commonly used keys are
difficult to      reach, no support for NAQP and NA Sprint. Requires a 386
computer or better.

6.  CT has a nice interface and is easy to use.

7.  It is easy to go from CW to SSB in a mixed mode contest.

8.  The most well respected contester/DX-peditioner(IMO) prefers CT because:

     CT can...

     *let you go back and correct an error you made in the log six QSOs ago,
TRlog can't.

     * let you go back and *easily* correct an error you made in the log one
QSO ago,         TRlog can't.

      *  not tell the difference between S&P mode and CQ mode, therefore
when you           press F1, you always get the same message --  I consider
this to be a plus, 
          especially when I have been up for 45 hours.

       *  not send CW that sounds as nice as TRlog --  this is too bad.

       *  not handle as many different contests as TR-- not a big deal for
me because
           I do about 4 contests per year-- if I had my own station, I would
be on more.


I hope this has been illuminating and helpful for some of you, I know it has
helped me tremendously and has somewhat confused me also! 73, see ya'll in
the pileups
Mississippi Mike  KK5EP.  



>From n1jm at dreamscape.com (John L. Merrill)  Wed Sep 18 03:52:44 1996
From: n1jm at dreamscape.com (John L. Merrill) (John L. Merrill)
Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 22:52:44 -0400
Subject: CT vs TR Summary
References: <199609180223.VAA15458 at netdoor.com>
Message-ID: <323F63FC.5A66 at dreamscape.com>

Michael Causey wrote:
> 
> Here is a summary of my responses to the CT vs TR question.  First, those
> who favored TR were many in number. Their comments first:
> 
> 1.  TR has a much better interface than CT, it(TR) also has a really neat CW
> practice mode. (15 responses had essentially the same comment).
> 2.  While they both do the same thing as far as actual logging goes, TRs
> seems much much smoother.
> 3.  TRs presentation is much more visually pleasing, but CT allows one to
> move the windows around.
> 
> 4.  TR has great support.  Tree is great with his customers. TR has great
> customer support. TR is more flexible and far better supported.  N6TR is
> superb at fixing problems, he actually LIKES to fix problems associated with
> the TR logging program.     (Many many more comments similar to these were
> received).
> 
> 5.  This is the most "advanced program.  "Top op features". Makes
> intelligent use of the keyboard.  Has a name database.  Has a custom contest
> mode.
> 
> 6.  TR is very difficult to learn.  It has no rotator support.  TR is
> flexible but much more difficult to learn, and less intuitive.  TR is
> unquestionably the superior two-radio program; all in all, if you are
> willing to work hard at it, TR is better.  If you want a program  that is
> very easy to use and intuitive, with less flexibility, CT is better.(Again,
> many responses were similar to these).
> 
> 7.  TR supports more contests.
> 
> 8.  TR has a steep learning curve and should not be fired up the day before
> CQWW!
>       Don't assume you will be able to download the TR logging program and
> be able to use it at once.
> 
> 9.  TR requires less keystrokes.  It is unbelievable!  In a contest like
> sweepstakes this is really a timesaver.
> 
> 10.  As a user of both CT and TR, I find TR *far superior* for CW
> contesting.  The biggest difference for me is in TR, when you hear a call,
> you don't have to do a "partial check" keystroke:  you enter the call, hit
> the <RETURN> key, and if it is a new contact, the program will send your
> call; if it is a dupe, your call will not be sent. Now THAT'S magic.  ( A
> few comments to this effect).
> 
> 11.  TR is a much better choice... Features:
>         *  Supports two radios
>         *  Band Mapping
>         *  Keyboard CW and also able to have key sending(supports paddles)
>         *  Number of contests covered
> 
>          Customer Service:
> 
>          *  Get updates through internet e-mail
>          *  Quick response to bug fixes
>          *  N6TR can be contacted easily through e-mail as can the distibutor
>          *  N6TR likes to work on the program
>          *  Manual and updates to the manual are on the web
>          *  TR is less expensive(!)
> 
> 12.    TR sends "better sounding" CW
> 
> 13.  N6TR takes more patience to set up, takes much more practice to become
> familiar
>         with, but will ultimately eliminate the need for several programs
> while at the same
>          time give you super flexibility.  My honest vote for you has to be
> the N6TR
>          program!
> 
> Those who preferred CT:
> 
> 1.  One ham wrote:  What's TR?  Everyone around here uses CT and NA.  Tell
> me about      TR.(From the 1st call area).
> 
> 2.  TR is adored by techno-types, hot-shot CW ops and two radio specialists.
> CT       seems  to be favored by the rest of us.
> 
> 3.  My experience is that BOTH are required to fully cover most of the
> contests.  I use      TR for Sprint, NAQP and CT for all others.  If you are
> limited to just one, go with CT.
> 
> 4.  Pluses for CT- Most popular contest package, easiest to get going
> quickly, support
>      for all major radios, Countries are kept up to date, operates very
> smoothly, DVP
>      voice processor support, supports 50 line VGA mode, supports networks
> for multi-
>       op, supports computer-controlled rotators, nice statistical reports,
> mouse support
>       for moving windows around, best support for MASTER.DTA callsign database,
>       is the "standard" at multi-op stations, has "point and shoot" packet
> support, nice
>       band map.
> 
> 5.  Minuses for CT- K1EA has very little time for support, does NOT support
> CW      paddles, no custom contest mode, for CW some commonly used keys are
> difficult to      reach, no support for NAQP and NA Sprint. Requires a 386
> computer or better.
> 
> 6.  CT has a nice interface and is easy to use.
> 
> 7.  It is easy to go from CW to SSB in a mixed mode contest.
> 
> 8.  The most well respected contester/DX-peditioner(IMO) prefers CT because:
> 
>      CT can...
> 
>      *let you go back and correct an error you made in the log six QSOs ago,
> TRlog can't.
> 
>      * let you go back and *easily* correct an error you made in the log one
> QSO ago,         TRlog can't.
> 
>       *  not tell the difference between S&P mode and CQ mode, therefore
> when you           press F1, you always get the same message --  I consider
> this to be a plus,
>           especially when I have been up for 45 hours.
> 
>        *  not send CW that sounds as nice as TRlog --  this is too bad.
> 
>        *  not handle as many different contests as TR-- not a big deal for
> me because
>            I do about 4 contests per year-- if I had my own station, I would
> be on more.
> 
> I hope this has been illuminating and helpful for some of you, I know it has
> helped me tremendously and has somewhat confused me also! 73, see ya'll in
> the pileups
> Mississippi Mike  KK5EP.

Where can you find out about purchasing TR? Home page??, etc.

John N1JM

>From ey8mm at tarl.td.silk.glas.apc.org (Nodir M. Tursoon-Zadeh)  Wed Sep 18 08:24:00 1996
From: ey8mm at tarl.td.silk.glas.apc.org (Nodir M. Tursoon-Zadeh) (Nodir M. Tursoon-Zadeh)
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 02:24:00 -0500 (TGT)
Subject: cq rtty
Message-ID: <ABGEwFoqu4 at tarl.td.silk.glas.apc.org>

Hi to all,

I am planning to be in CQ WW RTTY contest.

I will be on 40-10 meters.

18-01 UTC on 40 meters.
02-18 UTC on 20 meters.
on 15 and 10 as condx will permit.

I have 3 el. yagi monobanders and 500 w. Hope to see you.

73, Nodir  EY8MM
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>From rocker at datasync.com (Ray Rocker)  Wed Sep 18 05:27:17 1996
From: rocker at datasync.com (Ray Rocker) (Ray Rocker)
Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 23:27:17 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: CT vs TR Summary
Message-ID: <199609180427.XAA20606 at osh1.datasync.com>

> 8.  TR has a steep learning curve and should not be fired up the day before
> CQWW!  
>       Don't assume you will be able to download the TR logging program and
> be able to use it at once.  

Huh? I fired it up for the first time 10 minutes before NAQP and 
never had a problem.

That was a phone 'test though. I did use it for CW sprint but
didn't have the cable to go from serial port to rig, so just
used it for logging not sending.

-- 
                Ray Rocker * WQ5L * rocker at datasync.com
Datasync * Your Internet Connection on the Mississippi-Alabama Gulf Coast
Ocean Springs MS / Pass Christian MS / Mobile AL * http://www.datasync.com

>From je1cka at dumpty.nal.go.jp (Takao KUMAGAI)  Wed Sep 18 07:38:48 1996
From: je1cka at dumpty.nal.go.jp (Takao KUMAGAI) (Takao KUMAGAI)
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 15:38:48 +0900
Subject: [cq-contest 18801] Re: CT vs TR Summary
References: <199609180322.MAA16750 at dumpty.nal.go.jp>
Message-ID: <199609180638.PAA17321 at dumpty.nal.go.jp>

on 96/09/17, John L. Merrill writes:

: Where can you find out about purchasing TR? Home page??, etc.

John, you'll be able to get the above informatios at
http://www.QTH.com/tr/

Tack JE1CKA



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