Another 80 m question

W8JITom at aol.com W8JITom at aol.com
Fri Jan 31 10:49:03 EST 1997


In a message dated 97-01-31 07:36:06 EST, you write:
>
>Hi Tom,
>
>I am really very confused about elevated radials. Some hams claim that 4
>radials
>elevated are equivalent to 120 buried and others state that there is no
>"free lunch".

That's part of life Carlos. I race cars for a hobby. People at the race
tracks give advice like "cigar ashes in the oil helps an engine make power"
and they swear they actually witnessed it.

Antenna's are the same way. It's fun to play around and form opinions, and to
model antennas, but the only proof is in a measurement. Even feedpoint
resistance means next to nothing in a complex resonant system. The only thing
that matters is field strength, something rarely measured.

>What intigrates me is the fact that you proved by numbers what
>you state.

In one case of an A-B test with only the radials changed, yes. But it is
supported by a few other things.

At WVNJ AM, when they went from six elevated radials to 60 test radials on
the ground, field strength picked up almost 7 dB at some locations and 5 dB
average over the entire pattern.

During measurements for Goodyear Aerospace,  Carl Smith of Smith electronics
concluded, by real FS measurement, a properly optimized small counterpoise
system on the AM broadcast band was 7 dB down from a theoretically perfect
ground system.

As second hand information, N7CL posted some measurements made for the
military at upper HF. The conclusion (using helicopters in flyovers for FS
measurements) was small elevated systems were 5 to 6 dB down from a
conventional system.

One other Ham in PA actually made an A-B measurement of field strength on 160
meters and concluded about the same thing. (Lucky guy had his college
students help with the tests, hi)

I know about a dozen people who have went from small elevated systems to
medium to large conventional systems and strongly feel (but without FS
measurements) the same thing. N8ATR was the latest to believe that. WA2IZL is
another. N4SU another.

>As an Engineer (production engineer) I need numbers and experimentations to
>believe in something, just like you.

My working life is spent measuring things to prove concepts. I have become
sceptical of any claim provided without independent second source
conformation, hi. Since I could find any data, I decided to make my own test.

Throughout ALL of the elevated radial articles, all I find are NEC models or
long esoteric data chains. Direct A-B comparisons are totally lacking. The
closest I've found are a few plots of estimated field strength from FCC
estimated ground conductivity charts compared to real world measurements. But
that data is taken through some very conservative steps.

Less work or magic cures sell themselves, it takes little scientific
justification to make a single simple universal cure sound good. 

More work is always a  hard sell. People usually need to be convinced extra
effort is necessary. Life is a contest.

73 Tom

>From floydjr at Interpath.com (Jimmy R. Floyd)  Fri Jan 31 15:49:25 1997
From: floydjr at Interpath.com (Jimmy R. Floyd) (Jimmy R. Floyd)
Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 11:49:25 -0400
Subject: CQ 160 CW 97 Scores IV
Message-ID: <2.2.16.19970131154925.1947b384 at interpath.com>

1997 CQ 160 METER CW CONTEST
Raw Scores

Compiled by WA4ZXA
<floydjr at interpath.com)

Date Posted 01/31/97


CALL             HRS         SCORE       Q'S       PTS    ST/VE    DX
-----------------------------------------------------------------------

SOP/QRP

N1TM              13         19,240      230       520      34      3
N4CM              13         13,024      160                34      3
K3WWP              8          6,300      117       252          25
N3ADL              2          2,596       53                22      0
KD1IA              7          1,768       74       168      73      1


SOP/HP

P40WA             28      1,050,000      980                56     66
OT7T                        934,500     1119                49     76
VE3EJ (G4UXE)               781,911     1150      6683      57     60
GM3YOR            20        742,176      988      6872      47     61
G0IVZ             22        508,434      812      5034      43     58
LY2ZZ (LY2BTA)    33        506,979      856                32     67
G4BYG                       456,084      677      4223      38     70
VE9AA             24        455,712      784      4512      54     47
9A2TW             18        346,775      597      3575      29     68
JY9QJ                       193,050      392      3575       2     52
LA9GX             10        166,026      458      2478       9     58
PA3DMH             9         67,536      222      1206       8     48

W3LPL (W4ZV)      34        513,798     1182      4507      56     58
K8CC (W8MJ)       38        451,215     1119      4065      56     55
N5JA              31        402,708     1055      3628      57     54
AA1K              38        390,276     1034      3516      57     54
W9RE              18        280,908      900      2754      57     45
K2WK              10        267,500      631      2675      52     48
WS9V                        266,272      798      2512      57     49
AA8U                        254,600      815      2546      56     44
K5ZD              10        246,574      590      2542      52     45
KM3T              22        243,360      702      2535      54     42 
N7DD                        222,310      815                30     54
NI8L              16        201,388      710      2189      54     38
WF3T                        175,648      677                56     32
W8CAR             25        160,689      695      1847      55     32
KW9KW             18        148,785      611      1635      57     34
K4ZA              20        145,770      691                56     30
W8GN                        136,890      669      1690      54     27
AA4S              15        134,070      641                53     29
W7GG                        132,000      614                55     18
N6ZZ                        131,887      567      1589      54     29
K3JT              14        123,570      459                55     35
WI9WI             16        122,213      607      1547      56     23
K3SV              16        118,607      501      1429      50     33
K5TT              16        102,804      490                54     24
N8EA                         90,885      353      1095      51     32  
N5UL              21         87,975      463                54     21
K9MA               5         81,510      352      1045      51     27
K6XT                         61,248      366                50     16
K2ONP                        59,283      281       941      43     20
N4BP              16         57,980      376       892          65
N5LZ              10         51,430      223       695      49     25
K4ODL              9         35,456      162       554      39     25
K7OX              11         32,648      238       583      45     11
WJ2O               2          6,188       78                33      1


SOP/LP

VE3CSK            34        155,844      388      1998      52     26
VE3KZ             15        133,980      380      1914      53     17
S50U                         96,606      362      1789       0     54
S56A              10         54,537      231      1113       0     49
VE3OSZ            17         53,784       99       662      50     32
UR5IBG            12         39,732      190       924       0     43
TF3KX             10         15,352       77       404       5     33
VA3ZC              3         11,736      102       489      24      0

K1HTV                       166,605      726      1915      56     31
N5IA              27        105,861      581      1491      54     17
K2KQ              27         81,326      419      1099      49     25
AB1U              12         80,676      314       996      49     32
WO1N              18         62,766      350                45     21
K0RC              10         58,149      405       923      56      7
WA2DFI            29         49,029      353       831      52      7
KJ9C              12         48,739      339       799      49     12
K9WIE              8         45,506      305       746      51     10
WA8YRS            16         45,468      389       842          54
K8MR                         37,352      272                    58
W0VU                         36,336      318       757      41      7
WA0X                         33,609      310       659      51      0
W5OT (WA5TWL)                32,208      206       528          61
KN4QV              7         25,312      184       452      47      9
WO4O               9         21,887      237       509      40      3
N0HF                         21,372      177       411      46      6
WA6FGV                       21,168      189       432      44      5
N2BIM              5         18,081      198                40      1
W3CP               8         17,466      193       426      39      2
KG8W               5         13,502      137       314      39      4
WA7UQV                        8,052      102                    33
N6HC               5          5,945      101                27      2
K1EP               4          3,496       76       152      23      0
W0MU                            705       22                15      0


MultiOP/HP

OK5W                        526,932      820      4879      38     70
SL3ZV                       456,520      776      4520      30     71
PI4COM                      304,202      592                27     62
KP4/K4UJ                    298,015      512                52     43
JH9VSF/9                        438       16                 3      3

WW2Y                        807,000     1363                57     73
W2GD              42        696,000     1391      5568      57     68
N1BB                        555,960     1080                54     59
K3WW              25        406,339     1045      3628      56     56
NU8Z                        371,742     1055      3507      57     49
K3CR                        366,660     1090      3492      56     49
N3OC                        361,140      991                57     53
W4WA                        321,860      936      2926      57     53
W0CD              29        297,648      930      2862      57     47
AA0RS                       265,000      802                57     41
W3GH                        249,736      827      2356      57     49
N0NI                        249,504      957                    96
NQ4I              26        241,800      820      2418      57     43
N7JW                        239,372      852      2884      56     27
NM9H              24        230,454      859                57     36
NA5B              23        227,766      885      2618      56     31
AA4V                        201,500      710                57     43
K9BG              18        175,400      560                57     40
AA3B                        143,376      627      1648      55     32
K4OJ                        139,026      501                    94 
WC7M                        137,385      814                55     16
K3KO              13         81,011      435      1041      45     26
AE6E                         77,745      399      1095      47     27
KO7X              16         71,568      481      1136      53     10
N6KI                         69,312      430      1083      52     12
K2BM                         56,137      225       769      43     30

MultiOP/LP

AB5SE             17         51,420      383       857      53      7
KK5GT             11         24,429      208       479      47      4


Multi Opertor List

K40J          N0AX,WC4E,W1CW,W1YL
AA4V          AA4V,N4SF
N0NI          N0NI,N0AC,W0FLS
NQ4I          NQ4I,K4BAI,K2UFT
N1BB          W1FJ,W1KM,NB1B,WT1O,N1BB
KO7X          W7CT,KO7X
N7JW          N7JW,K7CA
NU8Z          NU8Z,N8CC,K8AQM,K8KS,KG8CO,K8AEM,W8MC
WC7M          WC7M,W7GS,WU7Y
N3OC          N3OC,KE3Q,WV3B
W0CD          K8GG,W8UVZ,W0CD
NM9H          NM9H,KX9X
W2GD          N2AA,K2SQ,KU2C,W2GD,W2NO,K2TW
W3GH          W3GH,W9XR
W8BAR         AA4VV,W1TO,W8WEJ,W8VVE
AA0RS         AA0RS,K0RF
WW2Y          WW2Y,K1ZM,N2NU,N2NC,N2NT,W2REH,K2WI
KP4/K4UJ      K4WA,K4UJ
PI4COM        PA3BBP,PA3ERC
N6KI          N6KI,KM6SN,WB6NBU,KM3G,N2MAU
AE6E          AE6E,KE4ZQD
W4WA          W4WA,AA4GA,KB4GID
SL3ZV         SM3BDZ,SM3CVM,SM3JLA,SM3OJR,SMEVDX
K3CR          KB3AFT,WA3HAE,WA3FET,NW3Z

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

NO ATTACHEMENTS !!!! I will not post attached scores.

Do not post any scores to the Contest Reflector, only to me direct or to 
the 3830 reflector. 

These are NOT OFFICIAL SCORES so do not send me logs or anything like a 
log. I am on affilated with the CQ Mag or the contest committee.

Remember if I get any scores with only Single Op or no class on it I will
put you in Single Op High Power.

I realize there is not such class as MultiOP/LP. It is only for the guys
who want to see how they placed against each other.


73  Jim

           ********************************************************** 
           * Jimmy R. Floyd  (Jim)   Thomasville, NC                *
           *                                                        *
           * Amateur Call:              >> WA4ZXA <<                *
           * Internet Address:          >> floydjr at interpath.com << *
           **********************************************************


>From floydjr at Interpath.com (Jimmy R. Floyd)  Fri Jan 31 15:49:35 1997
From: floydjr at Interpath.com (Jimmy R. Floyd) (Jimmy R. Floyd)
Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 11:49:35 -0400
Subject: NAQP SSB Jan 97 Scores FINAL POSTING
Message-ID: <2.2.16.19970131154935.34275c6a at interpath.com>

NAQP SSB 97
CLAIMED SCORES

Compiled by: WA4ZXA
<floydjr at interpath.com)

Date Posted: 01/31/97
******* FINAL POSTING *********

CALL               SCORE        QSOS        MULTI
___________________________________________________________


Single/OP

K6LL              244,674       1242         197 
N4ZZ              195,412        997         196
KW8N              188,513        853         221
AA8U              184,300        970         190
N9ITX/7           177,415        959         185
W6KY              168,165        909         185
K7UP (W5FX)       167,854        943         178
KE3Q              165,912        892         186
K4VUD             159,528        867         184
K3CR (KB3AFT)     149,776        814         184
K5OT              148,925        805         185
K5NZ              148,764        759         196
N4BP              144,000       1000         144 
W8MJ              142,920        794         180
N5TU              141,069        797         177
K4NO              129,417        723         179
K7SV              123,417        653         189
WA0ETC            119,641        661         181
K4MA (@AA4NC)     119,368        694         172
WC4E              119,479        733         163
WA1LNP            118,169        700         169
WA7BNM            115,370        695         166
KT4ZX             113,031        661         171
K0RC              112,752        696         162
K6BZ              108,281        779         139
W6EEN             107,954        701         154
WA4ZXA            107,200        670         160
W6TKF             107,074        682         157
K4RO              105,000        600         175
N6HC              105,300        675         154
AB5SE             104,625        675         155
K4RO              104,400        600         174
N7LOX             104,328        644         162
KN4T               98,049        667         147
K5BN               97,500        650         150
K4WW               90,750        550         165
W5ASP              87,000        580         150
K5DX               78,384        552         152
WT1O               77,250        512         150
K4CU (@KA9EKJ)     74,632        491         152
K9MY               69,350        475         146
K0EJ               68,101        451         151
K8BK               67,000        500         134
KK7A               66,429        549         121
K1VUT              66,308        484         137
N5OKR/3            65,968        434         152
WO4O               65,712        444         148
KK1L               65,540        452         145
K1SD               62,064        431         144
VE7CFD             55,998        549         102
WA3SES             55,470        430         129
KK5GT              53,055        405         131
K1NO               53,040        442         120
W0CEM              50,304        384         131
KO7X               48,251        427         113
K9WIE              44,409        339         131
KG8CW              44,149        371         119
WD9HTC             44,080        380         116
KA9FOX (@K9MA)     44,000        400         110
N0AXL              42,713        353         121
K4HQ/QRP           41,151        319         129
VE6IM              40,950        390         105
WB0OLA             39,528        324         122
N3IXR              38,100        300         127
NK4P               37,526        308         122
N9YXA              36,064        322         112
W7ZRC              33,988        293         116
KD3GC              33,858        342          99
N5WD               32,718        287         114
KE4RHU             30,528        318          96
KS4XG              29,900        260         115
N4OKX              28,000        280         100
KE1DO              27,450        305          90
KG5U               26,426        362          73
N5LZ               24,378        239         102
KJ8F               24,210        269          90
N1GPY              22,791        213         107
N5AV (KN5H)        22,246        227          98
WA8YRS             22,213        229          97
N4UL               21,900        219         104
N4CW               21,000        200         105
N7IN               20,839        229          91
K8MR               20,280        195          84
VE6DBH             19,197        243          79
AC8E               16,465        185          89
AE0M               15,276        201          76
K1TO/4             14,863        167          89
N9CO               14,364        171          84
KC4ZHQ             12,402        159          78
K1HT               12,213        177          69
K4AT               11,928        168          71
W9RM/M             11,340        140          81
K9PW               10,287        127          81
W4PA                9,558        141          68
KR4YL               9,054        135          67
KK5LO               8,710        130          67
N8TR                7,540        116          65
W4EF                6,077        103          59
W9WI                5,800        100          58
K1ZO                5,445         99          55
K8RM                4,896        104          48
N1MR                4,606         97          47
NY3C                3,285         73          45
W8AH                2,325         75          31
WA1CFS              1,560         65          24
AD1C                1,334         46          29
N9GG                  378         27          14


Multi/OP

KS9K              453,348       1764         257
K5TR (@W5KFT)     404,435       1721         235
W4WA              333,450       1482         225
NK7U              327,140       1487         220
N0NI              289,492       1375         211
KF9YT             191,268        966         198
WB5M               57,856        512         113
N5KB               29,380        260         113
KB3A               18,837        207          91


Team Scores

TDXS Team #1                   498,685
PVRC                           498,685
Kentucky CG Team L             190,104
Green Mountain Boys            120,387
Mad Rover Radio Club            50,506


Operator List

KB3A         KB3A,KE3XS,KE3XZ,N3WAH
N0NI         N0NI,N0AC,W0FLS
K5TR         K5TR,N5KA
W4WA         W4WA,N9HZQ,K0DI
KS9K         WE9V,K9PG
NK7U         NK7U,K7ZO,K7MK
KF9YT        KF9YT,N9VVV

___________________________________________________________

NO ATTACHMENTS !!!!! ATTACHMENTS WILL NOT BE POSTED ON ANY SCORES
THAT I DO

73 Jim

           ********************************************************** 
           * Jimmy R. Floyd  (Jim)   Thomasville, NC                *
           *                                                        *
           * Amateur Call:              >> WA4ZXA <<                *
           * Internet Address:          >> floydjr at interpath.com << *
           **********************************************************


>From ocker at chasind.com (Charlie Ocker)  Fri Jan 31 16:14:08 1997
From: ocker at chasind.com (Charlie Ocker) (Charlie Ocker)
Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 10:14:08 -0600
Subject: K3LR Dipole Array
Message-ID: <9701311614.AA13244 at chasind.com>

Can someone tell me what issue of QST contains the article written by Tim, K3LR, that 
describes his steerable dipole array?  It was a system based on a single
support tower, and the elements were 1/2 wave dipoles that formed a "sideways V" 
with respect to the tower.

Many thanks in advance.

73,
Charlie  N9CO	ocker at chasind.com

>From k0wa at southwind.net (Lee Buller)  Fri Jan 31 17:58:47 1997
From: k0wa at southwind.net (Lee Buller) (Lee Buller)
Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 11:58:47 -0600
Subject: Rotatable Dipole
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19970131175847.006cf6a8 at southwind.net>

Ladies and Gents....

Anyhone have information on a good 40 meter rotatable dipole?  Anyone out
there have one for sale?  Who do I look at?  KLM?  Mosley???  What?

Lee
k0wa at southwind.net


>From thompson at mindspring.com (David L. Thompson)  Fri Jan 31 08:53:53 1997
From: thompson at mindspring.com (David L. Thompson) (David L. Thompson)
Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 03:53:53 -0500
Subject: E-Mail Logs Accepted If....
Message-ID: <199701312053.PAA03012 at mule1.mindspring.com>

Gang,

We can accept E-mail logs for the CQ 160 if you follow this procedure:

1.   Send the log to cq160 at contesting.com.

2.   The log material must be in attachments.  If you don't know how to
handle attachments
       read your e-mail manual or contact your provider.  Set for
attachments outside the e-mail!!!!
        Those attached inside the e-mail will be returned!

3.    If using NA or CT I need the .sum, the .all (ascii log), the .dup (dup
list), and if possible the 
       .bin (for use in case of difficulty).

4.    For other logging programs I need a ascii summary sheet, and ascii
log, and a complete
       dup list.    The dup list is important as this is a complete list of
all stations worked in alpha sort         order.   This is what is used for
cross-checking!!!!!   I get logs that say no dups made (if over
200Q's probably wrong) or that show just the dups detected.  PLEASE send
only the                         complete list.

5.      Check thru your log completely before sending.  Make sure the
summary sheet gives me your call, operator class, power level, Q's, points,
W/VE, and DXCC mult and claimed score.  I need a complete address and if a
guest op I need the name/address of the owner of the station.

There will not be an automatic receipt, so direct all requests to me NOT
cq160 at contesting.com.  Allow at least 10 days as the logs are not coming
directly to me.

Please follow these instructions, don't E-mail me with how to on
attachments, and good luck.

Dave Thompson, K4JRB
CQ WW 160 Contests Director  
   


>From km9p at contesting.com (Bill Fisher KM9P)  Fri Jan 31 21:27:27 1997
From: km9p at contesting.com (Bill Fisher KM9P) (Bill Fisher KM9P)
Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 16:27:27 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Attn: Contest Sponsors
Message-ID: <Pine.BSI.3.95.970131162146.28589A-100000 at paris.akorn.net>


It has occured to me that it might be nice to have one email address or
system of addresses for contest submissions.  

I am willing to donate an email alias for any contest sponsor.  This way
the participants dont have to remember the email address.  If its NAQP CW,
then you send it to naqp-cw at contesting.com for example.  This could then
be redirected to whomever is checking logs at the time.  If the log
checker changes, the email address doesn't.  

If you are insterested... give me the email alias you want and where it's
supposed to go.  

Example:

squint at contesting.com	--->	n6tr at whatever.com

Thanks


Bill Fisher, N4VJ / K4AAA





>From drussell at knox.net (Donald Russell)  Fri Jan 31 22:40:03 1997
From: drussell at knox.net (Donald Russell) (Donald Russell)
Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 17:40:03 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Confirmation of submitted logs
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.91.970131171748.13568A-100000 at jasper.knox.net>

Fellow Contesters:

First I would like to say thank you to the ARRL Contest Committee for 
accepting ARRL sponsored logs via e-mail.  It is certainly a time saver 
and a hassle free way of doing it.

We do have a problem that I am sure you are aware of.  I submitted logs 
for the 160 mtr contest and the 10 mtr contest to your ftp site as 
instructed on your web page.  Then I requested confirmation of receipt 
via e-mail.  After a week of no response, I again submitted my logs to be 
sure that you had them.  That was over a month ago with no confirmation.  
I believe I did very well in the 160 mtr test and put in about 30 hrs 
operating time plus code practice for a solid week before to get ready.  
I would hate to think that you didn't get my log and I will never know 
how I stood amoung my fellow contesters.  Never worried about it with 
snail mail, but probably should have been.

I understand how darn busy you are when logs start comming in and 
mistakes are no doubt made.  However, I feel something should be done.

Here is my solution that I hope you will consider:

Starting immediately after an ARRL sponsored contest, A weekly list of 
all logs received by e-mail should be sent to the cq-contest forum and 
the scores 3830 forum.  In this way, contesters could check weekly for 
their call on the list and upon seeing their call, quit their darn 
worrying! Most contesters that would submit logs via e-mail are subcribed 
to these two forums, so everybody would be reached in this way.  I would 
think that this would be less work for the contest committee compared to 
to replying to each and every log submital.

Please consider this and let me know what you think.

73,  Don,  WA8YRS       drussell at knox.net


>From N6NT at worldnet.att.net (Bruce Sawyer)  Fri Jan 31 16:08:01 1997
From: N6NT at worldnet.att.net (Bruce Sawyer) (Bruce Sawyer)
Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 16:08:01 +0000
Subject: WRTC '96 Video Tapes (repeat posting)
Message-ID: <19970131160757.AAB5442 at LOCALNAME>

At the risk of offending some by taking bandwidth to repeat myself, but
hoping to catch the attention of those who might have missed my earlier
posting (due to the din of discussion about AL0HA, etc.), I'm again posting
the notice about WRTC '96 video tapes.  At the present moment, I'm mailing
these tapes out on the same day that I receive the requests in the mail.
This is going to change about the middle of February, though, because I'll
be out of the country for about 6 weeks starting then.

 
------------------------------------------------------------------
Through the courtesy of WJET-TV, Inc. and station owner K3TUP, 
production of the WRTC 96 video has been completed and the tapes are 
now ready for distribution.  This 27-minute documentary of the 
biggest contesting event of 1996 captures all the excitement and 
drama of the competition and presents the contesting hobby at its 
best. 

Distribution of the tapes is being handled under the auspices of the 
Northern California Contest Club and the Slovenian Contest Club.  The 
tapes are available for a nominal shipping and handling fee, and any 
excess funds remaining after distribution will revert to the 
sponsoring organizations.  

If you want to order a tape recorded with NTSC format (the format in 
use in the US), send $10 in US currency (or a check made payable to
Bruce Sawyer) together with a gummed address label (max size 2" x 4") 
to the following address:

  Bruce Sawyer, N6NT
  15430 Bohlman Road
  Saratoga, CA 95070, USA 

If you want to order a tape recorded with PAL format (the format in 
use in many European countries) send either $10 in US currency or 15 
Deutsch Marks together with a gummed address label to the following 
address:

  Tine Brajnik, S50A
  Maroltova 13
  1113 Ljubljana, Slovenia 

We are prepared to ship to any location, worldwide, for the $10 
shipping & handling fee.  Our goal is to make available a copy of 
this tape to anyone who wants one.  Thus we do request your help in 
reproducing this announcement wherever you think appropriate in order 
that as many people as possible can be made aware of the video.

This announcement supersedes the information contained on the tape, 
as that notice was prepared before we had fully analyzed our 
distribution costs. 

73,
Bruce Sawyer, N6NT
Co-chairman, WRTC '96


>From dx at traverse.com (Barry Martz K8BK)  Fri Jan 31 21:11:16 1997
From: dx at traverse.com (Barry Martz K8BK) (Barry Martz K8BK)
Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 21:11:16 +0000
Subject: CQWW 160 Email?
Message-ID: <m0vqhaA-00019GC at bert.traverse.com>

Hi.  I know this has  probably already been asked, but can CQWW 160 
logs be EMAILed in or do they have to have a  disk?

Thanks de Barry/K8BK



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