[CQ-Contest] Re: M/S CQing in CQWW
Boris Knezovic T93Y
t93y at lsinter.net
Thu Nov 2 07:13:05 EST 2000
I do not know for you guys but rules are pretty clear to me :
C. Multi-Operator (all band operation only):
1. Single Transmitter: Only one transmitter and one band permitted during
any 10-minute period, defined as starting with the first logged QSO on a
band. Exception: ONE-AND ONLY ONE-other band may be used during any
10-minute period IF-AND ONLY IF-the station worked is a new multiplier.
Logs found in violation of the 10-minute rule will be automatically
reclassified as multi-multi.
In the other words forget about multiplier station zero points QSO's...
73's Boris T93Y
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>From Michael Tope" <W4EF at dellroy.com Thu Nov 2 05:23:45 2000
From: Michael Tope" <W4EF at dellroy.com (Michael Tope)
Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 21:23:45 -0800
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Split operation and in-use frequencies
References: <20001031191905.5910.qmail at user2.teleport.com>
Message-ID: <03bc01c0448d$148aeba0$6401a8c0 at neptune>
Here is another situation to ponder. One which I ran into a couple of
times this weekend. You are on twenty meters beaming longpath
and you hear a loud European calling CQ Contest. On the same
frequency are a couple of loud USA stations ragchewing with each
other (its Sunday morning). Both the USA stations and the European
have been on the frequency for a while. Whose frequeny is it? Is
it okay for me to call the Euro over the USA stations (all three of
them are fairly loud at my QTH)?
The most ethically conservative approach to this situation would
be to not work the Euro and move on. Unfortunately, the adrenaline
of the longpath opening got the best of me, and I opted for the
more Neaderthal like interpretation (I worked the Euro). In retrospect,
this was probably a poor choice. This sort of behavior fuels the bad
blood between the contest community and the general ham population.
In a couple of weeks I will probably be operating SS phone. The
"pig farmers" on 40 and 75 meter SSB will then have their opportunity to
pay me back for my arrogance. We can't have our cake and eat it to.
If we want the "pig farmers" to respect contesting activity, then
contesters need to respect their ragchewing.
Mike, W4EF...................
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Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2000 11:19 AM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Split operation and in-use frequencies
>
> This is certainly a tough issue and one that resonable people will
> disagree about.
>
> This complications associated with split operation in phone contests
> is one of the reasons I don't operate them very often. However, I
> did make a number of split QSOs during the contest - and except for
> checking to see if I could hear the stations that beat me out in a
> pileup, I didn't check my QSX frequency. In this sense, I am as
> guilty as AD1C.
>
> How dare someone in the USA start up QSO on the QSX frequency of a
> DX station anyway. From the DX stations perspective - the frequency
> is in use. If the USA stations don't impair the DX stations ability
> to run guys - then he is going to continue to "use" the frequency.
>
> It is almost as unrealistic to expect two USA stations to check
> the QSX frequencies of all the DX stations calling CQ as it is
> to expect the USA contesters to check each frequency before
> answering a DX stations call. Both the DX station and the two
> USA stations are "using" the same frequency. The result of the
> DX station using the frequency is that stations are going to call
> there. The two USA stations either need to create enough noise to
> make the DX station choose another frequency - or they will have to
> put up with the QRM or QSY.
>
> It may not be the ideal situation - but it is the real one and I don't
> see how you can realistically expect contest rules to change to prevent
> this type of situation.
>
> This really is an extension of the QRM that the increased activity
> of the contest generates. The more people you put into a small space,
> the more QRM there is going to be. The split operation makes this
> worse for the reasons stated above, and the fact that clear spots
> are defined as places where there are not 500 KW short wave broadcast
> stations - not where someone running 100 watts to a dipole is operating.
>
> The best cure for this situation is to get a better band plan for
> 40 meters that allows enough room for everyone. Until that happens,
> there is going to be strife on the bands during the 4 or 5 weekends
> per year that the band is invaded by major DX contests.
>
> Face the facts - contesting causes QRM. It isn't always pretty, and I
> am not proud of it, but to quote my favorite line from ET: "This is
> reality Greg".
>
> Tree N6TR / K7RAT
> n6tr at contesting.com
>
>
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>From K0HB at USWEST.NET" <K0HB at USWEST.NET Thu Nov 2 04:16:31 2000
From: K0HB at USWEST.NET" <K0HB at USWEST.NET (K0HB - Hans)
Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 04:16:31 -0000
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Speaking of Courtesy Violations
Message-ID: <01C04483.F9801820.K0HB at USWEST.NET>
Jim Reisert AD1C wrote:
> It's just TOO DARNED HARD to check your transmit frequency first
> in these situations.
With all due consideration to the "heat of battle" argument,
paragraph 97.101(b) seems to require checking your transmit
frequency before using any frequency. Couldn't find any
exemption to that rule for big-gun contesters.
73, Hans, K0HB
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