[CQ-Contest] SO Vs. SOA, etc
JORGE DIEZ - CX6VM
cx6vm at adinet.com.uy
Fri Nov 10 15:53:52 EST 2000
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Goran writes:
Hi all,
After CQ WW SSB I was thinking to write something about this topic and =
here
is my point of view.
There are too many categories. If we check results in SO (Single Op.) =
Vs.
SOA (Single Op. Assisted)
category we can see that almost in any case SO made better result! What
could be the reason for that???
They made better results because they use DXTelnet or other kind of DX =
alert
Are DxCluster, Repeater Network, Internet accessories that disturbs the
Contester and than he is losing QSOs or many of TOP
operators for example in EU, anywhere using(monitoring) it but claiming
SO -> cheating???
YES, I THINK SO
I do agree that location(PFX)helps to DX getting more QSOs, MULTs but I =
can
tell you when I was operating
SOA and chasing for DX stations which I saw on DxCluster found many of =
you
guys on the same QRG as I was.
But you guys were SO so without Cluster! Are you having those Sixth =
Sense to
find DX or you think that it is not possible
to notice who is and who is not using it?! BTW I am not against it but I =
am
for that that contest committee consider
about doing something about it.
ON 1999 I DID THE SAME. FORE SOME HOURS GET INTO INTERNET ( OF COURSE I =
SIGN FOR SOAB ASSISTED, AND HOLD A RECORD ON THIS CATEGORY BECAUSE =
NOBODY, EXCEPTS MANY FEW, TELL THEY USED DX ALERTS.)
I STORAGE THE FREQUENCIES OF THE THE BIG ONES THAT WERE DOING A VERY =
GOOD RUN (3 or 4 TO TEST THEM) AND GET INTO INTERNET LO LOOKS FOR THE =
SPOTS ON THIS BANDS. =20
I QSY TO WORK IT WITH MY MODEST ANTENNA, AND 1 OR 2 MINUTES LATER ONE OF =
THIS STRONG STATIONS CAME TO THE FREQUENCY AND WORK DE DX STATIONS THAT =
WAS SPOTTED.=20
THEN I CHECK HIS FREQ. I HAVE IN THE MEMORY OF MY RIG AND HE CONTINUE =
RUNNING. HI HI.......
OF COURSE HE SIGN FOR THE SOSB ONLY (NOT ASSITED)
WITH VERY GOOD LUCK IS THE SOME OP. THAT MADE THE QSY. WILL BE HORRIBLE =
AND FRUSTATING TO THINK THAT IS A SECOND OP.
SO, ALL IS FROM THE ETHIC ON ANYONE, IF YOU DID THIS IN HAM RADIO THAT =
IS ONLY A HOBBY, I AM SURE YOU DIS ALSO ON WORK, WITH FAMILY, FRIEND, IS =
A DECISION OF LIVE.
When I spoke several years ago with Bob Cox, K3EST he mentioned that =
this
wouldn't be fair for stations from Africa, Pacific, etc. because
they are not able to have Packet Network, DXCluster, etc. Maybe ten =
years
ago it was so but these days in every tiny island whoever
want to get spots it could get them via Packet Network, Internet, Cell
Phones, Pagers, etc. Than I'll get the answer from you:" if you wish
to use it just use it and assign SOA". But why to have TWO categories =
when
many those SO guys are using it TOO???? Make it ONLY SO
and who is better will win! Not who is better CHEATER will win! So make
rules more flexible that there would be no need to cheat making
good result...so there will be main point of view to be inventive and =
good
to make it good!
I DON=B4T KNOW SO MUCH ABOUT TENLET, PACKET CLUSTER, SPOTS.... BUT MY =
QUESTION IS: NOT IS POSIBBLE TO KNOW WHO WAS CONECTED TO THIS SYSTEMS =
OF DX ALERTS.??????
THANKS VERY MUCH
SEE YOU ALL NEXT CQWWCW, I WILL BE AS SOSB 10 mts, AS CX5X
AND DON=B4T WORRY, I WILL NOT WASTE TIME CONTROLING THIS GUYS, IS A =
LOOSE OF TIME, I WLL SPEND ALL THE TIME TO ENJOY THE CONTESTS, AND WITH =
LUCK SOMEONE WILL SPOT ME AND THIS GUYS WILL COME TO CONTACT ME HI =
HI.
73
JORGE
LU-CG #1 TEAM
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Jorge Diez Furest
E mails: cx6vm at adinet.com.uy
cx6vm at qsl.net
Contest callsigns: CX5X & CW6V
QSL Manager: W3HNK
Web site: http://www.qsl.net/cx6vm
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<DIV><EM><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2>Goran writes:</FONT></EM></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2>Hi all,<BR><BR>After CQ WW SSB I =
was thinking=20
to write something about this topic and here<BR>is my point of=20
view.<BR><BR>There are too many categories. If we check results in SO =
(Single=20
Op.) Vs.<BR>SOA (Single Op. Assisted)<BR>category we can see that almost =
in any=20
case SO made better result! What<BR>could be the reason for=20
that???</FONT></EM></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2>They made better results because they =
use=20
DXTelnet or other kind of DX alert<BR><BR><EM>Are DxCluster, Repeater =
Network,=20
Internet accessories that disturbs the<BR>Contester and than he is =
losing QSOs=20
or many of TOP<BR>operators for example in EU, anywhere =
using(monitoring)=20
it but claiming<BR>SO -> cheating???</EM></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2>YES, I THINK SO<BR><BR><EM>I do agree =
that=20
location(PFX)helps to DX getting more QSOs, MULTs but I can<BR>tell you =
when I=20
was operating<BR>SOA and chasing for DX stations which I saw on =
DxCluster found=20
many of you<BR>guys on the same QRG as I was.<BR>But you guys were SO so =
without=20
Cluster! Are you having those Sixth Sense to<BR>find DX or you think =
that it is=20
not possible<BR>to notice who is and who is not using it?! BTW I am not =
against=20
it but I am<BR>for that that contest committee consider<BR>about =
doing=20
something about it.</EM></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2>ON 1999 I DID THE SAME. FORE SOME =
HOURS GET INTO=20
INTERNET ( OF COURSE I SIGN FOR SOAB ASSISTED, AND HOLD A RECORD ON THIS =
CATEGORY BECAUSE NOBODY, EXCEPTS MANY FEW, TELL THEY USED DX=20
ALERTS.)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2>I STORAGE THE FREQUENCIES OF THE THE =
BIG ONES=20
THAT WERE DOING A VERY GOOD RUN (3 or 4 TO TEST THEM) AND GET INTO =
INTERNET LO=20
LOOKS FOR THE SPOTS ON THIS BANDS. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2>I QSY TO WORK IT WITH MY MODEST =
ANTENNA, AND 1 OR=20
2 MINUTES LATER ONE OF THIS STRONG STATIONS CAME TO THE FREQUENCY AND =
WORK DE DX=20
STATIONS THAT WAS SPOTTED. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2>THEN I CHECK HIS FREQ. I HAVE IN =
THE MEMORY=20
OF MY RIG AND HE CONTINUE RUNNING. HI =
HI.......</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2>OF COURSE HE SIGN FOR THE SOSB =
ONLY =20
(NOT ASSITED)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2>WITH VERY GOOD LUCK IS THE SOME OP. =
THAT MADE THE=20
QSY. WILL BE HORRIBLE AND FRUSTATING TO THINK THAT IS A SECOND =
OP.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2>SO, ALL IS FROM THE ETHIC ON ANYONE, =
IF YOU DID=20
THIS IN HAM RADIO THAT IS ONLY A HOBBY, I AM SURE YOU DIS ALSO ON WORK, =
WITH=20
FAMILY, FRIEND, IS A DECISION OF LIVE.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2><BR><EM>When I spoke several years =
ago with Bob=20
Cox, K3EST he mentioned that this<BR>wouldn't be fair for stations from =
Africa,=20
Pacific, etc. because<BR>they are not able to have Packet Network, =
DXCluster,=20
etc. Maybe ten years<BR>ago it was so but these days in every tiny =
island=20
whoever<BR>want to get spots it could get them via Packet Network, =
Internet,=20
Cell<BR>Phones, Pagers, etc. Than I'll get the answer from you:" if you=20
wish<BR>to use it just use it and assign SOA". But why to have TWO =
categories=20
when<BR>many those SO guys are using it TOO???? Make it ONLY SO<BR>and =
who is=20
better will win! Not who is better CHEATER will win! So make<BR>rules =
more=20
flexible that there would be no need to cheat making<BR>good =
result...so=20
there will be main point of view to be inventive and good<BR>to make it=20
good!<BR></EM></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2>I DON=B4T KNOW SO MUCH ABOUT TENLET, =
PACKET=20
CLUSTER, SPOTS.... BUT MY QUESTION IS: NOT IS POSIBBLE TO =
KNOW WHO=20
WAS CONECTED TO THIS SYSTEMS OF DX ALERTS.??????</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2>THANKS VERY MUCH</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2>SEE YOU ALL NEXT CQWWCW, I WILL =
BE AS=20
SOSB 10 mts, AS CX5X</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2>AND DON=B4T WORRY, I WILL NOT WASTE =
TIME CONTROLING=20
THIS GUYS, IS A LOOSE OF TIME, I WLL SPEND ALL THE TIME TO ENJOY THE =
CONTESTS,=20
AND WITH LUCK SOMEONE WILL SPOT ME AND THIS GUYS WILL COME TO CONTACT=20
ME HI HI.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2>73</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2> JORGE</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2> LU-CG #1 =
TEAM</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana=20
size=3D2>**************************************************<BR>Jorge =
Diez=20
Furest<BR>E mails: <A=20
href=3D"mailto:cx6vm at adinet.com.uy">cx6vm at adinet.com.uy</A><BR> &nbs=
p; =20
<A href=3D"mailto:cx6vm at qsl.net">cx6vm at qsl.net</A><BR>Contest=20
callsigns: CX5X & CW6V<BR>QSL Manager: =
W3HNK<BR>Web site: <A=20
href=3D"http://www.qsl.net/cx6vm">http://www.qsl.net/cx6vm</A><BR>*******=
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