[CQ-Contest] The meaning of words

Wed Nov 15 04:54:55 EST 2000

He is not using a spotting net or packet. He is using the same
band(s) the contest is in. He should not be considered assisted.

Bill Turner wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 14 Nov 2000 08:18:52 -0500, Ed Parish, K1EP wrote:
> 
> >I am in SS running unassisted.  I need VT.  I am CQ'ing away on 80M, "CQ SS, looking for VT".  Some random person comes on freq and tells me unprovoked that there is a VT station calling CQ up 10 from me.  Do I ignore his "assistance", use it and remain in the unassisted category, or change categories to assisted?
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> If you use his "assistance", then you are assisted.  What else could
> it be?
> 
> 73, Bill W7TI
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>From Leigh S. Jones" <kr6x at kr6x.com  Wed Nov 15 04:30:02 2000
From: Leigh S. Jones" <kr6x at kr6x.com (Leigh S. Jones)
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 20:30:02 -0800
Subject: [CQ-Contest] The meaning of words; assisted or not, etc.
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Oh, sure.  If a a year 2000 operator got into a time machine and traveled
back to the SS contest in the 1970's, he might be expected (by some of the
definitions of "assisted" that I've heard lately) to ask the following
question:

"I was CQ-ing on 14.079 when I heard someone calling [a KV4] on 14.080.  He
seemed to be calling him blind, and there was no response... Later, I moved
up to 14.080 and called [the KV4].  He came back, and we made contact.  Does
that make me a multiop? Assisted?"

If you set your friends up to warn you when your missing section comes on
the air, that would be getting assistance these days.  In the 1970's, if
some strange voice dropped onto your frequency while you CQ'd and asked you
if you'd worked [the KV4] yet, then told you where to find him, that would
have been considered to be normal, run-of-the-mill single operator stuff.
But if you asked your next door neighbor to tune around the bands while you
operated and find the KV4, then call him so that you could find him, that
could be considered an activity that would reclassify you out of the single
operator category.

Reacting to what you hear on the bands does not make you a multiop, nor an
assisted single op.  If you happen to be tuning across the 15 meter band
looking for Puerto Rico as you operate the SS, and you overhear someone say
that WP3R is on 28,480, it doesn't make you assisted when you change bands
and work him.  But if you happen to be tuning across 2 meters in the
viscinity of your local packet spotting net as you operate the SS and you
learn from your computer screen that WP3R is on 28,480, and you go work him,
it does make you assisted.  There is a very clear difference between the two
activities -- one of intent -- even though there might not be an easy way to
express the issues clearly in the contest rules.

I've read a lot of fuzzy thoughts being expressed in the language of clear
cut choices as I've watched this thread linger too long on the reflector.
Old-timers would say, "...if it looks like cheating, sounds like cheating,
and smells like cheating, then it's cheating."

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Turner" <w7ti at jps.net>
To: "Ed Parish, K1EP" <k1ep at arrl.net>
Cc: <DougKR2Q at aol.com>; <cq-contest at contesting.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 12:15 PM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] The meaning of words

>
> On Tue, 14 Nov 2000 08:18:52 -0500, Ed Parish, K1EP wrote:
>
> >I am in SS running unassisted.  I need VT.  I am CQ'ing away on 80M, "CQ
SS, looking for VT".  Some random person comes on freq and tells me
unprovoked that there is a VT station calling CQ up 10 from me.  Do I ignore
his "assistance", use it and remain in the unassisted category, or change
categories to assisted?
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> If you use his "assistance", then you are assisted.  What else could
> it be?
>
> 73, Bill W7TI
>
>
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