[CQ-Contest] Internet/WebCam in the contest?!

[Gilmer, Mike]

The more I think about it, the more I don't believe a webcam solicits.  To
me solicitation is an ACTIVE request for contacts.  "Please oh please work
me on 14.228 right now!", or similar fits the description of a solicitation
in general, and more importantly fits the spirit of CQ's rules.  Having a
webcam (even one that shows the frequency) just does NOT.

Someone has to already know about and then go find the webcam for themselves
on the wasteland we call the Internet.  These "someones" are doing the
trolling, not the webcams' operators.  The webcam just sits there spitting
out pseudo-video.  The webcam/operator doesn't ring up anybody on the phone
or send them a telegram nor does the webcam's URL show up scrolling across
the bottom of CT saying, "Work me!"

Does an announcement on a DX web site posted by a DXpedition crew solicit?
Sure, it, in essence says, "Work me on all bands in CQWW CW!".  Is it
displayed during contests? Yup.  Is it using non-amateur means?  Yes.  Is it
against the spirit of the rules?  I don't think so - no more than a webcam.
The hams theorized as being "solicited" have to actively seek out the
"solicitation".

73 Mike N2MG


> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Robert Naumann [SMTP:n5nj at gte.net]
> Sent:	Tuesday, October 03, 2000 9:41 AM
> To:	Dale L Martin; Contest Reflector
> Subject:	RE: [CQ-Contest] Internet/WebCam in the contest?!
> 
> 
> I'm finding myself in amazement over the impact that some of you guys are
> thinking a webcam can have.
> 
> Gimme a break.
> 
> This should be likened to someone stopping by your house and looking into
> your shack door.  Should the rules require that all doors be locked and
> shades be drawn when you operate a contest because someone might see you ?
> 
> I think the impact of having a webcam will be no more than a distraction
> to
> the operator and a curiosity to non-serious operators at best.
> 
> 73,
> Bob N5NJ
> 
> ------Original Message------
> From: "Dale L Martin" <kg5u at hal-pc.org>
> To: Contest Reflector <cq-contest at contesting.com>
> Sent: October 3, 2000 3:46:04 AM GMT
> Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] Internet/WebCam in the contest?!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > Competitive contesting is about you and your radio station.  If
> > you're
> > competing that's all you 'd better be using.
> >
> > Per part XII of the CQ WW rules:
> >
> > "The use by an entrant of any non-amateur means such as
> > telephones, telegrams, internet, or the use of packet to SOLICIT
> > contacts during the contest is unsportsmanlike and the entry is
> > subject to disqualification. "
> >
> 
> And.....
> 
> >For example, someone that didn't even
> >know about the contest sees you on the internet and says "I'm going to
> turn
> my
> >radio on and work this guy....it looks like fun!" I really think that
> this
> is
> >against the rules.
> 
> 
> ROFL....
> 
> Are YOU and the other guy who said it was against the rules
> serious????????????????????????
> 
> Geez
> 


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