[CQ-Contest] OOs as Referees

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Hi y'all:
I've missed a lot of messages about this thread.
Can anybody please tell me if you are talking about "remote" referees. Or
"inside the shack" referees like in WRTC.
The first type would help stop several ways of cheating.
The secound should stop them all. But how de we do it?
Great issue to discuss.

Martín Monsalvo, LW9EUJ
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De: owner-cq-contest at contesting.com
[mailto:owner-cq-contest at contesting.com]En nombre de Ward Silver
Enviado el: Viernes, 09 de Febrero de 2001 09:27 p.m.
Para: Mark Beckwith
CC: cq-contest at contesting.com
Asunto: Re: [CQ-Contest] OOs as Referees



The regular OO corps is not trained to adjudicate on-the-air events.
Their scope is limited to signal quality, checking for privilege
violations, etc.  These are core parameters...and certainly worth
checking in a contest..

What would be of interest is a crew of referees per the WRTC model.  All
of them would be trained on the complete rules for each contest.  I might
also be a good idea for them to be "certified" for particular contests.
Their job would be to look for infractions that would materially affect
scores of participants and report them to the contest sponsor.  They might
also report the infractions to the participants in real-time.  What they
would not do is moderate frequency fights, assess logging penalties and
errors, evaluate excessive power and so on.

One strange thing about being a WRTC ref - you couldn't tell the teams
that they were infringing and losing points.  For example, my team
occasionally forgot to change bands on the PC when working a multiplier.
I couldn't tell them, but had to watch until the mult rolled out of the
editable window and then make note of it for processing by the judges
later.  Somewhat frustrating - in most other sports, you are made aware of
the infraction in real-time.

There are a number of secondary issues about identifying both referees and
contestants unambiguously, resolving disputes, etc. but there is enough
precedent in professional sport that I think good examples abound for us
to copy.

I'm sure that at least some of the cheating going on now - and I do not
think that there's a lot of it - would stop just because of the knowledge
that monitoring was happening.

73, Ward N0AX

  > I am not sure OOs would be good contest referees.  I remember when I was
an
  > OO I was never required to be familiar with anything specifically contest
  > related.  Has this changed?
  >
  > Mark, N5OT
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