[CQ-Contest] Reply to SO2R comments... what I do

ted demopoulos kr1g at hotmail.com
Tue Mar 6 15:17:44 EST 2001



If I find a clear freq and call CQ and start running, its mine. No one is 
going to bully
  me off the freq (and I can be mighty stubborn, even for a W1!!). 
Conversely if I get no
  answers, and someone returns after a very few CQs and insists on 
ownership, they can have it back.

If I vacate a freq briefly (a few seconds, not a few minutes), and someone 
is there when I return,
  I try to reclaim the freq. If they want to fight, they can probably have 
it. If they are on my "bad"
list (typically for trying to blatantly steal my frequency), the rules 
change!! Actually the rules
change depending on how tired I am and how I feel, but I try to be reasonable.

Reasonable Behavior??? :  A Carribbean came and told me the frequency was 
in use, although
  I had run well over10 stations and was about 3kc away. I explained this 
but he responded in a
  way I found obnoxious at the time, so I told him the band was in use, and 
to go find another
  one!!! Don't remember the call or I'd mention it,

73

Ted KR1G
 >From: "James B. Neiger"
 >To: "John Dorr" ,
 >Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Reply to SO2R comments...
 >Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 05:59:32 -0800
 >
 >
 >A reasoned response from my K1PowerHouse friend (EVERYONE knows that all big
 >signals emanate from K1-land).
 >
 >I too have been guilty of trying to return to my once-vacated run frequency,
 >after moving mults to other bands, however so briefly, but in all honesty,
 >John, I believe we are treading on slippery slopes in thinking the original
 >is "our" frequency. Oh sure, we can (and will) try and bully our way back,
 >but as everyone knows how I have been mellowing -out in recent years, I
 >really believe that once-vacated for a single QSO on another band, we can
 >lay no legitimate claim upon trying to return.
 >
 >Please don't try and hold me to this when next I try and return, as I'll
 >probably try and bully my way back again.
 >
 >Vy 73,
 >
 >Jim Neiger
 >N6TJ/ZD8Z
 >----- Original Message -----
 >From: John Dorr
 >To:
 >Sent: Monday, March 05, 2001 4:29 PM
 >Subject: [CQ-Contest] Reply to SO2R comments...
 >
 >
 > >
 > > Well, I'll step up here considering no one else seems willing to mention
 > > real calls/names. The incident with N2MG involved myself while operating
 >on
 > > 10M. I had the good fortune to have two needed multipliers call me 
which I
 > > managed to successfully pass to 15M.
 > >
 > > Now, I agree about the concern over the frequency ownership issue raised
 >by
 > > several guys on here. In this case (and correct me if I'm wrong), I
 >believe
 > > the passes probably took about 45-60 seconds each. That is, in my view,
 > > within a reasonable window to say you're still using a run frequency.
 > > Naturally, that can be debated at great length as it already has been on
 > > this channel.
 > >
 > > The point in my on-air comment to Mike was simply that instead of trying
 >to
 > > have the debate in the heat of battle, he would be better off finding his
 > > own frequency and focussing on passing guys himself as appropriate.
 > > Obviously that's a one-sided view but, right or wrong, seems to be a
 > > regular practice by most operators.
 > >
 > > BTW, for the record, I was not operating with two radios this weekend.
 >But,
 > > a fair point has been raised here about how long a frequency is
 >legitimately
 > > yours when you choose to vacate it for any reason. I submit to the
 > > contesting court that there's no cookbook answer to that one.
 > >
 > > 73 John, K1AR
 > >



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