[CQ-Contest] Got a Room at Dayton?

William N. Goodman, CPA K3ANS goodmancpa at enter.net
Tue Mar 13 03:42:29 EST 2001


Fred.  Rather than seek a room or roommate, I suggest you hover around the
occupied rooms.  Soon as one guest steps out for a break, grab his room and
take over.  First ask quietly if it is in use.  If he does not answer in 2
milliseconds, claim it for yourself.  If he is smaller than you are, he
cannot get it back.  Be sure he is not bigger than you, does not stand
taller than you, does not have longer arms, or nor  has amplified strength.
Otherwise you may have a room fight to claim the empty space.  If he is
stronger, do not waste your time.  Rather QSY down the hall and find a
weaker opponent or clear room.  73, Bill, K3ANS>>


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>From Leigh S. Jones" <kr6x at kr6x.com  Tue Mar 13 05:04:07 2001
From: Leigh S. Jones" <kr6x at kr6x.com (Leigh S. Jones)
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 21:04:07 -0800
Subject: [CQ-Contest] re:Clicks-REAL numbers.
References: <B4965255B95AD41185EE00D0B74791F2155BA6 at axatl03.cos.agilent.com>
Message-ID: <08db01c0ab7b$08f03160$ede3c23f at kr6x.org>


The limiting factor with the HP-141T would be the IF selectivity (the
IF uses LC filtering) rather than the phase noise.  But I certainly
wouldn't trust the IF of the HP-141T to do an adequate job of
separating the clicks from the carrier in a critical measurement.
It's IF skirt bandwidths are about an order of magnitude worse than
the transient supression of a clean CW signal, so any clicks would
have to be pretty extreme to be detectable.

Al and I used to work together at a company with dozens of HP-141T's
scattered about.

----- Original Message -----
From: <al_lorona at agilent.com>
To: <W8JI at contesting.com>; <cq-contest at contesting.com>
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2001 5:52 PM
Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] re:Clicks-REAL numbers.


 >
 >
 > Hi, Tom,
 >
 > You said...
 >  > I certainly trust George's integrity, but I don't trust his
HP-141T at
 >  > all in this application. It is a poor instrument for the job.
 >
 > The 141T is hardly a poor instrument, but a better way to put it
might be
 > that it just doesn't have the resolution bandwidth to get as close
to the
 > carrier as you have pointed out needs to be seen. That, and we may
be
 > running into reciprocal mixing with the residual FM (phase noise) of
the
 > spectrum analyzer's local oscillator. This has always been a
limiting factor
 > for using a spectrum analyzer to look at close-in signals (to a
strong
 > carrier). Warning: this is all conjecture, as I have not bothered to
look at
 > 8553 residual FM specs.
 >
 > R,
 >
 > Al W6LX
 >
 >
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