[CQ-Contest] Re: [Dx] Lets change phonetics

Wed Oct 31 12:52:34 EST 2001

You might try pronouncing the zero as zaro (with a short a) to rhyme with
arrow.
This sounds international.
We say Zed for Zee - maybe for the same reason.

Joe

John Geiger <johngeig at yahoo.com> on 10/31/2001 12:22:47 PM

Please respond to John Geiger <johngeig at yahoo.com>

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 Subject:  [Dx] Lets change phonetics                         

During the CQWW SSB contest this past weekend, I was
again reminded of how much I hate phone contests
because I have a 0 call.  It seems like about every
third dx station here the 0 as Kilo, and says
"November Echo Kilo Papa, what is the number in your
call."  This gets old after a while.  As I see it, my
options are:

1. Buy stacked monobanders and a 2KW+ amp, and hope
that my signal is soooo LOUD that there is no chance
of error.  I like this solution, but my wife and
accountant say otherwise

2.  Since I now live in Five land, and have a Zero
call, apply for a vaniety call with a 7 in it.  Why 7?
 Why not?  The FCC does not require us anymore to
apply for calls within our mailing district.  Don't
like this option, as I just ordered 1000 QSLs with
NE0P on them, all my awards (expect for novice WAS)
has this call, and everyone already knows me by it.

3. Limit my operations to CW and RTTY.  THis is a
possibility.  Run mostly CW, and just getting on RTTY
and it is a blast, however, still like phone contests
and DXing when phone is required.

4. Enlist the aid of the ham community to start a
petition officially changing the phonetics for K to
something less confusing than Kilo.  THis is the route
I have decided to take, and could use your assistance.

By the way, where is the official department of
international phonetics and 10 codes located?  Geneva
at the ITU or Newington at the IARU?

73s John November Echo ZERO Papa

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>From FireBrick" <w9ol at billnjudy.com  Wed Oct 31 17:54:48 2001
From: FireBrick" <w9ol at billnjudy.com (FireBrick)
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 11:54:48 -0600
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: [Dx] Lets change phonetics
References: <20011031172247.48187.qmail at web20602.mail.yahoo.com> <004001c16232$6e2e27d0$dee81ec4 at peterhershome>
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I have the problem with Whiskey 9
They all come back to 'the Oscar Lima'
But I'm sure it's my audio or voice pattern.

I've considered"
Wauwatosa 9 Oscar Lima
Wyandotte 9 Oscar London
even
Washington 9 Ocean Louisiana
but with that one I ran out of breath and could rarely complete.

So anyway. look at your speech patterns on a scope, pick phonetics that are
fuller.
Then use a equalizer to adjust.

You will not hear it on your end so much, but the effects are dramatic on
the receiving end.

I don't know how to do this but my nephew was a sound man on the Dallas and
he did it for me.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Hers" <zs6phd at mweb.co.za>
To: "John Geiger" <johngeig at yahoo.com>; <contest at qth.net>;
<cq-contest at contesting.com>; <dx at qth.net>
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 11:35 AM
Subject: Re: [Dx] Lets change phonetics

> John
>
> You have struck a chord here!
>
> I use contest call ZS9P, and about 10% of stations hear the"9" as a "5"
the
> first time round.  I waste quite a bit of time in correcting them, but the
> errors in final logs are probably still 1-2%.
>
> I have asked many people if my diction is at fault but everyone I have
asked
> says my audio is excellent and diction the same.
>
> I tried saying "niner" but many OM's hear this as two syllables and get
> confused.
>
> What to do?
>
> Peter
> ZS6PHD
> Johannesburg, South Africa
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Geiger" <johngeig at yahoo.com>
> To: <contest at qth.net>; <cq-contest at contesting.com>; <dx at qth.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 7:22 PM
> Subject: [Dx] Lets change phonetics
>
>
> > During the CQWW SSB contest this past weekend, I was
> > again reminded of how much I hate phone contests
> > because I have a 0 call.  It seems like about every
> > third dx station here the 0 as Kilo, and says
> > "November Echo Kilo Papa, what is the number in your
> > call."  This gets old after a while.  As I see it, my
> > options are:
> >
> > 1. Buy stacked monobanders and a 2KW+ amp, and hope
> > that my signal is soooo LOUD that there is no chance
> > of error.  I like this solution, but my wife and
> > accountant say otherwise
> >
> > 2.  Since I now live in Five land, and have a Zero
> > call, apply for a vaniety call with a 7 in it.  Why 7?
> >  Why not?  The FCC does not require us anymore to
> > apply for calls within our mailing district.  Don't
> > like this option, as I just ordered 1000 QSLs with
> > NE0P on them, all my awards (expect for novice WAS)
> > has this call, and everyone already knows me by it.
> >
> > 3. Limit my operations to CW and RTTY.  THis is a
> > possibility.  Run mostly CW, and just getting on RTTY
> > and it is a blast, however, still like phone contests
> > and DXing when phone is required.
> >
> > 4. Enlist the aid of the ham community to start a
> > petition officially changing the phonetics for K to
> > something less confusing than Kilo.  THis is the route
> > I have decided to take, and could use your assistance.
> >
> >
> > By the way, where is the official department of
> > international phonetics and 10 codes located?  Geneva
> > at the ITU or Newington at the IARU?
> >
> > 73s John November Echo ZERO Papa
> >
> > __________________________________________________
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>
> Your Moderator is Larry Wilson KE1HZ
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