[CQ-Contest] Dupes?

Dennis OConnor k8do at diamondcs.net
Tue Jan 8 10:15:03 EST 2002


John, it may also be that the software the contestor is using actually has 
an option to allow dupes, but that person, through ignorance or oversight, 
did not set that option '= TRUE', when configuring the software for the 
contest...

As you point out it is always much quicker to work/log the Q a second time 
around than discuss it... Or even a third time, as does happen... My 
personal high is one that duped us 4 times in one contest... By that time 
all the ops in the shack had worked him at least once, to the general 
merryment of the group, as I logged him for the 4th entry...  This brings 
up a thought for Tree in the Stew Perry 160 contest, that we have an award 
for the most dupe Q's received while calling CQ....



Denny - K8DO

> 
> Dear fellow contesters,
> 
> I know recently there was a controversy going on on the reflector a
> bout = dupes. I did not follow it. I thought it was clear and simple to
> all = reasonable people: if someone calls you, and he shows up as a
> dupe in = YOUR log, you work him. Anyhow the guy who calls you has a
> good reason = to call you: either you are NOT in his log (maybe he has
> an error in = your call), or he does not have a log, and wants to work
> you, has a poor = memory etc etc. One thousand good reasons. If he has
> no log, of if he is = old and forgets things, or if he is just a pain
> you know where, you CAN = of course say "worked before" and carry on.
> But if he really wants to = work you, he will call you again, and ask
> for a QSO. Now you can do two = things, work him "again" , which means
> make him happy (AND make sure you = ahve a GOOD QSO in YOUR log), and
> have the situation cleared in 30 = seconds, or start arguing. Don't
> forget you are in a contest... TIME = IS... POINTS.
> 
> It happened twice to me during the ARRL RTTY roundup. One station
> (N4B.) = says "worked before". I come back and tell him "you are not in
> MY log". = This was on 20 meters. He may have OT2T in his log, but it
> is important = for him that OT2T has him in his log, which was NOT the
> case. Well, to = make a long story short, he repeatedly refused to work
> OT2T. OT2T called = him again and again to no avail. Well, anyhow, N4B.
> is not in OT2T's log = on 14 MHz, and ARRL be informed that if they
> find OT2T in N4B.'s log on = 20, it is a fictive QSO. I spend minutes
> to try to help him, and make = sure HE has a good QSO in his log, and
> he refused. He'd rather have an = imaginary QSO in his log! I cannot
> understand why he simply did not want = to make a so-called dupe QSO,
> just to make sure. No penalties for that!=20
> 
> Until later the same day, I worked another station (SM3ET.) who also =
> said "QSO before" Same story, he was not in MY log. I had a NICE =
> conversation with him, and eventually he said " I CANNOT WORK YOU AGAIN
> = WHEN YOU ARE ALREADY IN MY LOG, MY LOGGING PROGRAM MAKES IT =
> IMPOSSIBLE...". I was flabbergasted. So I did not work SM3ET. , and =
> SM3ET. did not work me... That's the end of the story.=20
> 
> It is possible that someone writes such a stupid program that makes it
> = impossible to log someone twice on the same band? Anyhow, the super =
> contest logging program that I use (Writelog) allows it !=20
> 
> Moral of the story: work what are dupes in your eyes. Ask no questions.
> = It is fastest. And . use a good logging program.
> 
> What say?=20
> 
> Have fund and.. happy contesting to all!=20
> 
> 73, John, ON4UN, OT2T (this year)
> 
> T
> 
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