[CQ-Contest] Fishy spots in WPX SSB

Thu Apr 10 08:50:17 EDT 2003

Self-spotting is not permitted. But as Jim points out, the ability to police
that is limited to those who submit logs. Contest sponsors only have
authority over those who enter, and if they aren't entering, who cares? Many
single ops use contests merely to expand their DXCC, WAZ or WPX totals.
Can't fault them for that.

Operator spotting: in my book, this is the same as self-spotting. It also
probably violates rules regarding use of other calls during the contest.
And, clearly, it is unlikely that someone would mount a multi-multi or even
multi-single and not intend to enter. So this should probably be taken up by
the sponsors. Failure to address this would, in my view, be an affront to
rule-abiding entrants.

Friend spotting: is there a rule against this?

73, kelly
ve4xt

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tonno Vahk" <tonno.vahk at mail.ee>
To: <cq-contest at contesting.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 4:45 PM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Fishy spots in WPX SSB

> I decided to analyse spots after my SO 80m effort to get some insights
about
> their effect on my rate and propagation conditions. Well, there were only
4
> for my dissapointment while only one from US - condx were very poor
indeed.
> But I noticed some spots that disturbed me and I decided to analyse the
> whole set of spots just to see if the extent of "suspicious" spotting has
> decreased from last year when Jamie, NS3T, provided us with actually quite
> shocking data.
>
> I am just providing you figures - you can decide what to make of it. I
only
> took out data about stations who had spotted only one station in the
contest
> or made maybe 1 other spot. I omitted most of those that had made less
than
> 5 spots although their were quite some unpleasant cases as well. I agree
> that we cannot disqualify anybody based on this data and we cannot prove
> much but what we can do is to take clear positions and agree where is the
> line that we should not cross. Are 15-20 spots by another member of the
club
> who has only spotted one station OK behaviour? It is shame to see that
some
> stations who are QTH-wise anyway in advantageous position still get some
> excessive help from their friends. It makes me sad!
>
> I am bringing this up because only by peer pressure we can get rid of
> self-spotting and excessive friend-spotting. I think that would make
contest
> more fair and would benefit us all. This is all public data so please
don't
> accuse me in disclosing anything or in witchhunting:) If most of the
people
> find this OK then so be it!
>
> 1. Self-spotting...?
>
> CA2WUI made 12 spots in the contest - 11 were of CA2WUI and 1 of XR6T
>
> LU9ESD made 6 spots in the contest - all 6 of LU9ESD
>
> SV9FBG made 6 spots in the contest - all 6 of SV9FBG
>
> XV1DT made 4 spots in the contest - all 4 of XV9DT (XV1DT is his old call)
>
> If those spots are really made by themselves then are they unaware of the
> prohibation of self-spotting or do they think that it does not apply to
> them??
>
> 2. Operator-spotting?
>
> OM3CGN made 16 spots - all of 4U1ITU. OM3CGN was operating the station
> before and after WPX, I don't know for sure if also in WPX.
>
> JT1BV made 6 spots - all of JU1DX. He is QSL manager and member of club, I
> don't know if was operator. He was also mentioned by NS3T last year.
>
> 3. Friend spotting?
>
> ON5UM made 8 spots - 7 of them of OT3A. ON5UM was OT3A op in CQWW 160
>
> F1ORL made 9 spots - all of TM2F. F1ORL is a member of TM2F club.
>
> DL2JRM made 9 spots - 8 of them of DN1CUR. DL2JRM and DE2ROB (operated at
> DN1CUR) are co-ops at DA0MF.
>
> IK2HKT made 15 spots - 12 of them of IR2K. He is in the same contest club
as
> the op at IR2K.
>
> IT9GNG made 12 spots - all of IT9FXY. They have gone to IOTA expeditions
> together.
>
> K1JN made 6 spots - all of WE1H. They are members of the same contest
group.
>
> K4ISV made 7 spots - all of VP5V. K4ISV is the owner of VP5V villa-QTH.
>
> UA9JMB made 7 spots - all of RA9JR. They are co-ops in RK9JWR.
>
> W8QZA made 17 spots - 16 of them of TI5N. W8QZA is a very frequent op from
> TI5N, but not this time.
>
> YL2LY made 15 spots - 14 of them of C5P. His friends YL stations were
> operating from C5.
>
> 4. Cases with extremely strong army of supporters. Those cases are quite
> interesting!
>
> L71F case - LT1H (L71H) caught also NS3T's eye last year:
>
> CE3BFZ made 6 spots - all of L71F
> KQ7W made 6 spots - all of L71F
> LU4ESE made 12 spots - all of L71F
> LU6EBY made 3 spots - all of L71F
> LU8ASO made 3 spots - all of L71F
> YV5MMX made 9 spots - all of L71F
> ZP5MAL made 5 spots - all of L71F
> This looks like a full time spotting team! - 44 spots.
>
> ZP40Z case - operator ZP5AZL
>
> JA7AYE made 3 spots - all of ZP40Z
> JA7XYE made 4 spots - all of ZP40Z
> N3BNA made 6 spots - all of ZP40Z. N3BNA is a very good friend of ZP5AZL.
> PY5QAZ made 2 spots - all of ZP40Z
> ZP5VBA made 4 spots - all of ZP40Z
>
> TO3M case - QTH FM5BH
>
> F6HEQ made 5 spots - all of TO3M. F6HEQ is QSL manager for FM5BH
> F8AAN made 3 spots - all of TO3M
> FM5BH made 2 spots - all of TO3M
> FM5DS made 7 spots - all of TO3M. FM5DS is co-op of FM5BH
> FM5FJ made 5 spots - 4 of them of TO3M. FM5FJ is co-op of FM5BH
> FM5WD made 5 spots  - all of TO3M. FM5WD is co-op of FM5BH
> FM5WE made 2 spots - all of TO3M
> All of those spots are submitted from browser (they have @ sign) exept
one -
> the one only other spot by FM5FJ (9A8A)!! All the comments are with
capital
> letters  (!) and more less the same (MARTINIQUE ISLAND VIA DJ2MX) as if
they
> were posted by the same person. Well at least from the same computer.
>
> Those 3 stations have really received a huge support from their friends, I
> don't know what to make of it. I hope that you can decide whether it is OK
> or not. I don't know. I does seem a bit unfair to me.
>
> 5. Cases were I could not always find direct link while briefly checking
the
> web.
>
> YU6RKB made 17 (!) spots - all of YT6A
> K8UI made 4 spots - all of YT6A
>
> YS1MAE made 5 spots - all of HU1M
>
> UR7IJQ made 5 spots - all of US7IGF.
> NS3T 2002: UR7IJQ spotted US7IGF 12 times - UR7IJQ made only one other WPX
> contest spot.
>
> PT7WA made 4 spots - all of ZY7C. PT7WA is QSL manager and op for ZY7C
> PT7VB made 3 spots - all of ZY7C
>
> PP5CV made 5 spots - all of ZV5K
>
> ER1BAF made 5 spots - all of ER1Q
> ER1OO made 3 spots - all of ER1Q
>
> EY8ZA made 6 spots - all of D4B
>
> F5JIT made 5 spots - all of TM9OO
> F8DGQ made 2 spots - all of TM9OO
>
> G4WSE made 10 spots - all of G8A
>
> IK1RLF made 19 spots (!) - all of IR2G
>
> IV3DIW made 7 spots - all of II3M
>
> IK6TJT made 8 spots - 7 of them of IR4T
>
> 73
> Tonno
> ES5TV
>
>
>
>
>
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