[CQ-Contest] Recordings and Log Corrections

[Bob Wanderer]

Make it 48 to 72 hrs--supposing the log's rejected by the
robot or there's some other computer-related issue, or (as
just happened to me) your ISP gets spammed big time and is
blacklisted until it can clear its servers.  I had no
outgoing service for over 10 days.  I think it should be
quick enough so no "massaging" can occur, but still give
some reasonable time to recuperate etc.

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Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 7:44 PM
To: Kenneth E. Harker; CQ Contest
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Recordings and Log Corrections


If I were voting, I would also vote no, reason being it's an
impossible rule to enforce.

What I would like to see is a requirement that logs be
sumitted via
email within 24 hours of the end of the contest (except for
DXpeditions). If someone wants to stay up another 24 after
48, more
power to them. Otherwise, it's the only way to be sure logs
aren't
being massaged in any major way.
Barry W2UP

On 16 Jul 2003 Kenneth E. Harker wrote:

>      In the July/August 2003 NCJ, Robert N6TV reports on
the Contest
> Forum at the Visalia International DX Convention 2003 (I
was not in
> attendance.)  Something I read surprised me.
>
>      N6TV writes "The fourth issue revolved around
recording contests
> and then going back and fixing up the log before
submitting it.  The
> exit question asked was `Should the use of recording
devices of any kind
> to correct a log be explicitly banned in the contest
rules?'  All five
> panelists replied `no.'"  The panelists were NT1N, W3ZZ,
K3ZO, N6AA,
> and N6TV.
>
>      The only reason I can think of that the answer to
that question
> could be "no" is if you feel that this form of cheating is
already
> prohibited under existing rules, but is that really the
case?
>
>      Do we really want people operating the contest after
the contest is
> over?  It's one thing to go back through a log that you
have left notes in
> and make corrections based upon those notes.  In that
situation, you are not
> semantically altering the information in the log - you are
syntactically
> changing it (reformatting it, if you will) into a form the
contest sponsor
> wants.  It isn't really any different from converting a
log from .DAT to
> .CBR format - the same data is there, it's just in a
different structure.
>
>      But going back to a recording after a contest and
listening again
> for a callsign or exchange that you didn't copy during the
contest period
> is just wrong.  It is as wrong as checking a log against a
callbook or
> emailing other operators just to check to make sure you
are in their log.
> It is operating the contest after the contest is over.
>
>     Since I wasn't there, can anyone explain to me how the
forum arrived at
> their conclusion?
>
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> Department of the Computer Sciences          Central Texas
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