[CQ-Contest] self spotting vs other cheating

[Kelly Taylor]

Forgive me if I'm confused, but I'm not quite following the logic here. We
should ignore infractions we can catch because the ones we can't are more
serious?

I suspect that self-spotting, in the case of many cheaters, is only the tip
of the iceberg. Someone whose morals are weak enough that self-spotting
doesn't seem wrong isn't likely to stop turning up the RF Output at 1500
watts, disable received spots or any other of the unenforceable rules that
exist.

And I think that Chuck is understating the value of spots. In some contests,
a continuous stream of spots can only help. I suspect Dave is only showing
us selected samples. I can't think of too many hams who, were it allowed,
wouldn't want to be spotted all weekend long. I'm not sure that so rare a
section as Illinois in SS qualifies as a good example.

When I've done multiops, we watch the spots -- as permitted -- and virtually
every spot raises the rate, sometimes dramatically, particularly when we've
been running a relatively rare special prefix.

I think Chuck has some good points about other infractions, but none
discredit the work done by Dave.

73, kelly
ve4xt
----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Monday, May 26, 2003 11:09 AM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] self spotting vs other cheating


> OK, now we have the self spotting deal exposed, which, IMO is great.
But....
>
> Really, does self spotting give a station "that" much advantage, at least
> compared to other forms of cheating, like big power for instance?
>
> Yes, after a rare station is spotted, there is a pileup. But, if the
station
> is indeed rare, others will spot it, therefore making self spotting a rare
> station, mute.
>
> If I am spotted, in Illinois, during the SS, there isn't a whole lot of a
> pile-up on me.  So, if I was to 'self-spot" myself, whether it was was
legal or
> not, how would that help me?  I have entered the packet catagory in
various
> contests for the past couple of years, so I see myself spotted every once
in a
> while, & I can tell you that I have seen no real increase in rate (at
least here
> in Illinois!) during those times.  Maybe a little spurt, but that is it.
>
> I think the real cheats we need to deal with are the crowd that thinks 2kw
is
> low power, & the crowd that uses packet, but claims they are not assisted!
> That, my friends, is more important than self spotters.
>
> Just my 2 cents..
>
> 73-Chuck
> KI9A
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